Poll of the Day > GFAQS User who wrote a PERSONA 2 FAQS wants REMOVED cause he's now a CHRISTIAN!

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A user, by the name of ThatGuy4913 who supposedly wrote a Persona 2 walkthrough on gamefaqs is now asking for it to be REMOVED because he's now a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN and the values he now has goes against everything the game represents..such as demons and DEATH and no longer supports or play video games that goes against god's rules in life...

He claims he agreed to the site rules that every faq is to remain on the site once you write it but is asking for an exception..

Should his demands be met?

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If hes Christian now, he should forgive himself for his past. Repent thy sins of olde!

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Religions are cults. Very popular, long-lasting cults, that have always exhibited cult-like behaviour - like controlling thoughts, controlling behaviour, demonising non-conformity, being anti-education and anti-science, revising history, taking a book of books of mythology and fairytales meant to be taken figuratively seriously and literally.

Cults should be eliminated for the wellbeing of their victims and future would-be victims.

Id be so pissed if he took it off im using it as we speak lmao

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Imagine having a bronze age moral system that prevents you from enjoying any form of modern entertainment. I feel sorry for this person and I hope he comes back to his senses.

By the way where did you find out about this, or are you just making shit up now mrduckbear?

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kind9 posted...

Imagine having a bronze age moral system that prevents you from enjoying any form of modern entertainment. I feel sorry for this person and I hope he comes back to his senses.

By the way where did you find out about this, or are you just making shit up now mrduckbear?

It blew up on Twitter and got picked up by at least Kotaku. Maybe other news sites as well

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kind9 posted...

Imagine having a bronze age moral system that prevents you from enjoying any form of modern entertainment. I feel sorry for this person and I hope he comes back to his senses.

By the way where did you find out about this, or are you just making shit up now mrduckbear?

It's on this site. Hang on, I'll find the FAQ for you

Here you go:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/611279-shin-megami-tensei-persona-2-innocent-sin/faqs/63171?page=8

thx

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I believe the teachings of Jesus Christ are the recipe for world peace. Unfortunately, organized religion and their corruption of said teachings, will not allow that.

In any case, I can be considered a Christian and I fucking LOVE SMT: Nocturne, baby! Fucking amazing game! And Id buy a remaster on current consoles if they made one.

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Akira_Kurusu22 posted...

Very popular, long-lasting cults, that have always exhibited cult-like behaviour - like controlling thoughts, controlling behaviour, demonising non-conformity, being anti-education and anti-science,

Sounds like your average political party. "Vaccines are awful and global warming doesn't exist"

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i really can't think of any reason why i, or anyone else should care about this, ok?

i don't even know why i'm posti

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I never uploaded a guide before so I'm a bit confused.

ThatGuy says he can remove it but he can't because contract prevents him.

So he has some level of control? Like edit it into a blank version or something?

If Gamefaqs compensated him for writing the FAQ he should have to return that money. If he does return it they should respect his religion and take it down.

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Seems like a person who needs Joker and The Phantom Thieves.

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he can always ask for the credits to be given to a great user like @Aculo , or myself, this way it stays up, ok?

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They took it down because they were afraid the media might pick it up which is fair.

Media just fearmongered people into buying all the meat because wendy's doesn't use frozen burgers.

Looks like he's taking a stand against demons, the biggest problem in our society. Let's not focus on political corruption or man made problems, let's fix imaginary ones made by demons.

Because the all powerful all knowing god isn't powerful or knowing enough to keep those pesky demons from trolling humans without leaving any kind of evidence behind, leading to all sorts of shenanigans, such as Pokemon, D&D, atheism, natural disasters, Persona 2, Persona 2 user guides...

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ClarkDuke posted...

he can always ask for the credits to be given to a great user like @Aculo , or myself, this way it stays up, ok?

Are you not like, literally the same person, ok?

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Writing a FAQ on a video game doesn't represent your own personal beliefs so no.

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What a pain in the ass, now i cant ever close this tab i guess

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ZBug_ posted...

Are you not like, literally the same person, ok?

no that actually is the talented and famous actor Clark Duke. its pretty cool that he posts here and hes a really humble and great guy

TheSlinja posted...

What a pain in the ass, now i cant ever close this tab i guess

Cant copy/paste or print screen?

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mrduckbear posted...

He claims he agreed to the site rules that every faq is to remain on the site once you write it but is asking for an exception..

Given that he wasn't compensated for his work, I imagine if he hired a lawyer the site would probably pull the faq rather than bother going through a lawsuit.

EDIT: And it looks he CAN have his stuff removed-
"Your FAQ, Review, Save, and Top 10 List contributions on GameFAQs are your copyrighted works, and you can request they be removed at any time, as long as they have not won a contribution contest."

Which I was pretty sure you could do, so I'm not sure what this other crap is about.

Akira_Kurusu22 posted...

Religions are cults. Very popular, long-lasting cults, that have always exhibited cult-like behaviour - like controlling thoughts, controlling behaviour, demonising non-conformity, being anti-education and anti-science, revising history, taking a book of books of mythology and fairytales meant to be taken figuratively seriously and literally.

Cults should be eliminated for the wellbeing of their victims and future would-be victims.

No, religions aren't cults any more than countries are families. Just because something shares some of the same traits are a larger thing doesn't make the two the same thing in different size. Second, and more importantly, almost everything you described could also apply to government considering it's also anti-science, public education is more babysitting than education, and policy is often directed by books of fairy tales not meant to be taken seriously which is where we get many socialist ideas.

kind9 posted...

Imagine having a bronze age moral system that prevents you from enjoying any form of modern entertainment.

lolwut? "Any"? He's complaining about one very specific thing. If his complaint is about media featuring demons, that leaves countless films not featuring demons.

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I thought he was compensated? Is this just Zeus being wrong like usual?

Voted Yes before reading "he agreed to the site rules that every faq is to remain on the site once you write it"
So that's one Yes vote you can disregard.

I don't give a crap about his beliefs or whatever taboos he may have been indoctrinated into, that's his business, not mine. However, if it's his work, his wishes regarding it should be honored, unless he's bound to an agreement to the contrary, which seems to be the case here. If he really wants to consider himself born again, then the actions of the person who wrote that FAQ are the actions of a different person, not the person he is now, and he needs the strength to be able to accept that.

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Zeus posted...

No, religions aren't cults any more than countries are families.

The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of people in it. (even Christianity was once considered a cult by Jewish people and Romans)
Both only follow rules laid down by the Leader (the religion's chosen god or some religious leader)
Both pretty much require lifetime commitments
Both claim those that break the rules will receive a 'penalty' after death (funny how they "know" what the penalty will be, considering nobody has ever actually been proven to have returned after dying and told what the "penalties" are....)

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Shadowbird_RH posted...

Voted Yes before reading "he agreed to the site rules that every faq is to remain on the site once you write it"
So that's one Yes vote you can disregard.

I don't give a crap about his beliefs or whatever taboos he may have been indoctrinated into, that's his business, not mine. However, if it's his work, his wishes regarding it should be honored, unless he's bound to an agreement to the contrary, which seems to be the case here. If he really wants to consider himself born again, then the actions of the person who wrote that FAQ are the actions of a different person, not the person he is now, and he needs the strength to be able to accept that.

If the site does state that you agree that every FAQ remains on this site when you submit it he has 0 legal ground to stand on. He would have a better chance getting the site owner to convert to his line of thinking then take GameFAQ's down because a good chunk of video games are against Christianity.

BlackScythe0 posted...

I thought he was compensated? Is this just Zeus being wrong like usual?

Yeah as far as I understand it it was part of the bounty program. And that pays money.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Yeah as far as I understand it it was part of the bounty program. And that pays money.

If that is the case this is more like some girl that did porn 10 years ago now demanding it be removed, even though 10 years ago she agreed to it and took the money happily.

Kinda daft that he cited religion as the reason for wanting its removal as saying "I've since replayed the game and realised i made a massive error in *insert world here* that's plainly false" would've more likely given him the result he was after.
Then again one has to have a flimsy grasp of reality if they refuse to grow out of believing in fairytales.

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He made it under the bounty program, apparently. He was paid for it. Apparently the rules of the bounty system are that it must remain up. SBAllen has already taken it down. He never contacted GameFAQs or used the form for removing a walkthrough.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/11-team-gamefaqs/78685266

Ah, he did contact GameFAQs, but not about removing it. Because he's crazy

Someone added the Persona games to this meme
https://youtu.be/b0MlFhRWUGA

BlackScythe0 posted...

I thought he was compensated? Is this just Zeus being wrong like usual?

Ducky's post certainly doesn't mention it. Where did you see this claim or are you just talking out of your ass like usual?

SkynyrdRocker posted...

He made it under the bounty program, apparently. He was paid for it. Apparently the rules of the bounty system are that it must remain up.

Oh. Well, it wasn't in either the story Ducky presented which also suggests that *all* FAQs posted to the site are beholden to stay up (which they aren't) or in the screencap of his post.

Monopoman posted...

If the site does state that you agree that every FAQ remains on this site when you submit it he has 0 legal ground to stand on.

It would be virtually unenforceable in the absence of compensation and the site would certainly cave once a lawyer was involved.

TyVulpine posted...

The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of people in it. (even Christianity was once considered a cult by Jewish people and Romans)
Both only follow rules laid down by the Leader (the religion's chosen god or some religious leader)
Both pretty much require lifetime commitments
Both claim those that break the rules will receive a 'penalty' after death (funny how they "know" what the penalty will be, considering nobody has ever actually been proven to have returned after dying and told what the "penalties" are....)

Funny, because you just described government except for that last bit which doesn't apply to every religion (although I think it could be true of all of the world's remaining major religions) let alone every cult. And like I said, claiming that a religion vs a cult is based on the number of members is like claiming that a country vs a family is based on the number of members.

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Zeus posted...

Ducky's post certainly doesn't mention it. Where did you see this claim or are you just talking out of your ass like usual?

Oh. Well, it wasn't in either the story Ducky presented which also suggests that *all* FAQs posted to the site are beholden to stay up (which they aren't) or in the screencap of his post.

It's duckbear, you were the only person who chose to come in here and make incorrect statements.

BlackScythe0 posted...

It's duckbear, you were the only person who chose to come in here and make incorrect statements.

On the contrary, all of my statements were correct. The only issue was not knowing that he had received a bounty for it, which is something somebody couldn't reasonably be expected to know or even assume.

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I mean, I think that's really silly to be against. I really don't think it's a sin to like a video game about "demons", most of which are just fictional characters.

But no matter what, yea if he wants it gone, it should be gone. It's his work, he should decide what happens to it

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Yes.

No matter how faulty his reasoning, he is the creator. It is his work. His wishes should be respected.
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Did anybody back the guide up before it was removed?
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