Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1363

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I think it's the only place on the internet were Crono does well.

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Is this the only place in the internet where Crono would beat Waluigi in this poll?

Maybe places that anti-vote Waluigi?

Are there any other websites that is mostly populated with 30+ year old gamers?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashBrosUltimate/comments/hbhrmx/oc_one_can_only_dream/

Would anyone on Board 8 disapprove?

Would be an incredible pick. Dunno how the hell they'd make a stage for him though.

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shane15 posted...

Would be an incredible pick. Dunno how the hell they'd make a stage for him though.

Courtroom No. 4 featuring explosions.

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Waluigi N9-breaker confirmed.

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@Advokaiser In this poll only. In the actualy contest 2 years ago he lost as 2 Seed against a 15 Seed anyways.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

There are still lots of viable Pokemon and some Fire Emblem characters they could add.

Agreed on the Pokmon front.

But if there's one, just one more Fire Emblem character added to Smash, it could objectively become a potentially dangerous situation for the franchise.

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Safer_777 posted...

@Advokaiser In this poll only. In the actualy contest 2 years ago he lost as 2 Seed against a 15 Seed anyways.

Yeah, I was joking. xD

KP was the one who indirectly convinced me to pick Aerith > Waluigi back then.

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TRE was being facetious on both fronts

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...Huh.

Haven't heard anyone not wanting any more Pokmon added (except from the latest Gen).

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because it's never enough for Pokemon fans

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No, I mean, literally no one has said: "No more Pokmon, please! We have too many already!".

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Pokmon has filled the roster with complete shit imo.

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Advokaiser posted...

No, I mean, literally no one has said: "No more Pokmon, please! We have too many already!".

Pokemon has the benefit of being one of the largest series so everyone kind of expects them to have more representatives. It also helps that the Pokemon have been more unique than the Fire Emblem characters

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No more Pokemon please

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Honestly Zacian and Zamazeta would be cool as a duo

we need some more doggies, wheres Wolf Link?

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Speaking of non-animal choices, imagine Goose. It's even somewhat likely as Untitled Goose Game is a Ninty exclusive.

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_SecretSquirrel posted...

It's even somewhat likely as Untitled Goose Game is a Ninty exclusive.

It's been on PC since the Switch release and was eventually released on the other consoles later...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Waluigi/search/?q=gamefaqs&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

People tried but it looks like the Waluigi reddit couldn't get hyped about this one.

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AxemRedRanger posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Waluigi/search/?q=gamefaqs&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

People tried but it looks like the Waluigi reddit couldn't get hyped about this one.

791 upvotes sounds like a lot of support.

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you might wanna doublecheck when that one was from.

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Can an American explain to me what is the difference in videogame rating between Mature and Adults only?

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Safer_777 posted...

Can an American explain to me what is the difference in videogame rating between Mature and Adults only?

if you know our movie ratings basically Mature is like R and Adults Only is like NC-17 or rated X.

M is mostly violent stuff like CoD or GTA and AO is pretty much just porn games. Major stores wont sell AO games at all and I cant think of one that has even been released from a major publisher. If a game somehow got an AO at first pass theyre definitely going to tone stuff down so they can get the M instead.

the console companies wont even allow AO games to be released on their platform. They only come out on PC.
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Adults only are games which features nudity. There's probably other things, like gambling with real money I imagine would be rated AO.

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I dont think anything that has gambling with real money would even go through the ESRB. That sort of thing would be regulated by someone else.

As far as I can tell Pokerstars has no ESRB rating.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AO-rated_video_games

it appears one online gambling service did submit to the ESRB but they didnt have to

the list is all porn games and like special directors cut versions of M rated games where the difference between versions seems to be sexual in nature.

Thrill Kill got an AO purely for violence back in 98 but I think it would be close to impossible to get it just for violence today.
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With the amount of violence, gratuitous or otherwise, in today's games, the fact that AO is essentially exclusively for sex/nudity is ridiculous to me.

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The American rating system is a bit weird. What's the point in having a 17+ and then an 18+ that can't be sold anywhere.

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I think the idea is you have 17+ so theoretically kids can only get those games if a parent allows them to and then you have the 18+ that is just for porn because you cant let minors have porn obviously.
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I generally agree with the ESRB, and I'm glad it exists as a guideline and warning at a personal level.

But M-ratings nowadays are just not enough, imho, especially with games getting more and more realistic while simultaneously going further over the top, with some M-rated games being way worse than others.

Movies suffer from the same kind of issue (compare an R-rated The Matrix to an R-rated, I don't know... Kill Bill), although that media has had that from decades now, while games have been having that tendency over the last 15 years.

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there are like 3 games, ever - Thrill Kill, Manhunt 2, and Hatred - that ever got the AO rating primarily or only because of violence. So although it's not impossible, you generally have to go much farther than a M-rated game is willing to go. Which just doesn't happen really.

As mentioned AO games are in 90% of cases porn pretty much.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I think the idea is you have 17+ so theoretically kids can only get those games if a parent allows them to and then you have the 18+ that is just for porn because you cant let minors have porn obviously.

Yeah, stuff like Mortal Kombat and TLoU2 deserve the AO rating more than most games with sex scenes.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I think the idea is you have 17+ so theoretically kids can only get those games if a parent allows them to and then you have the 18+ that is just for porn because you cant let minors have porn obviously.

Graphic depictions of sexual acts is definitely a matter that should be taken with extreme caution with kids, but I'd say graphic violence should be taken equally seriously or even more so, since the former is a natural process that should be covered and explained since childhood, while the latter isn't necessary at all.

Both matters cause damage if exposed prematurely or without consideration, but for very different reasons.

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Mac Arrowny posted...

Yeah, stuff like Mortal Kombat and TLoU2 deserve the AO rating more than most games with sex scenes.

Its not just about having a sex scene. TLoU2 actually has a sex scene and obviously didnt get an AO. The AO stuff is actual porn games.
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Yeah you can get away with nudity in games without an AO rating too.

Most recently being Life is Strange 2 I think. I started a chapter and then all of a sudden boobs.

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looking at the list of AO stuff Im pretty sure the only game that isnt intentionally just porn that got an AO based on sexual content is the Indigo Prophecy directors cut.
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I'm still mystified as to why Hot Coffee was somehow AO worthy.

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So I still don't get it but whatever. You have a game where you can saw people in half but M rating. But if you saw someone having sex or having huge nudity but nobody get's hurt it is AO rating.
If USA was a conservative country(like most Middle East Countries for example)I would understand it. But we are talking about a country that produces the most porn on the world and there are so many groups fighting to have people beeing naked on their home and stuff like that.
So yeah.

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Yesmar_ posted...

I'm still mystified as to why Hot Coffee was somehow AO worthy.

Mostly media backlash, it was a time when people like Jack Thompson were at their anti-video game height in the mid 2000s.

Safer_777 posted...

So I still don't get it but whatever. You have a game where you can saw people in half but M rating. But if you saw someone having sex or having huge nudity but nobody get's hurt it is AO rating.
If USA was a conservative country(like most Middle East Countries for example)I would understand it. But we are talking about a country that produces the most porn on the world and there are so many groups fighting to have people beeing naked on their home and stuff like that.
So yeah.

The United States is a big enough country where it can be hyper-sexualization and anti-sex at the same time. It's the same thing with alcohol.

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Safer_777 posted...

So I still don't get it but whatever. You have a game where you can saw people in half but M rating. But if you saw someone having sex or having huge nudity but nobody get's hurt it is AO rating.
If USA was a conservative country(like most Middle East Countries for example)I would understand it. But we are talking about a country that produces the most porn on the world and there are so many groups fighting to have people beeing naked on their home and stuff like that.h
So yeah.

I dont remember which country youre from, but is it not illegal to sell porn to minors there? For AO were almost exclusively talking about games literally designed to be masturbated to, not normal games that happen to contain nudity.
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Voted Jecht for favorite video game dad

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Oh hey the first poll we can use to judge FF7 Remake's effect
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8129-

Looks like Barret is getting a boost from FFVII Remake as he's gained almost 4% since last year's poll.
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wow Allen doing Bowser dirty here

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Janus5k posted...

wow Allen doing Bowser dirty here

Also Link. We all know SS Link is like the Genghis Khan of Hyrule.

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charmander6000 posted...

The United States is a big enough country where it can be hyper-sexualization and anti-sex at the same time. It's the same thing with alcohol.

Yeah I'm always amazed by the American media's puritanical attitude towards sex. Though I had a discussion with my dad the one time and he looks down on how promiscuous American women tend to be compared to in other countries so there.

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Oddly enough, in a country as large and diverse as the US attitudes towards everything, including sex, are not monolithic. They vary widely. Popular media tends to take the safe i.e. conservative-leaning approach to subjects that are sensitive and divisive.

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