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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 6:45:30 PM #356: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
Advokaiser's talking about violent/scary content, not sexual content. He's not the one we're referring to here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Advokaiser 06/04/20 6:45:50 PM #357: |
@UshiromiyaEva Which non-horror, gore-free VNs do you recommend?
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MrSmartGuy 06/04/20 6:46:12 PM #358: |
Right. Mikan. Not sure how I forgot about her.
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 6:47:19 PM #359: |
Advokaiser posted...
@UshiromiyaEva Which non-horror, gore-free VNs do you recommend? Narrowing down to exclude gore brings that list I posted to basically just Fatal Twelve and Va-11 Hall-A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 6:48:03 PM #360: |
Advokaiser posted...
@UshiromiyaEva Which non-horror, gore-free VNs do you recommend?...Ever17? --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 6:48:49 PM #361: |
Ooooooh wait there's actually one specific scene in Fatal Twelve I can't spoil...I actually don't remember if it's graphic or not.
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Mac Arrowny 06/04/20 6:53:27 PM #362: |
Majikoi
Clannad Symphonic Rain Katawa Shoujo ef - a fairy tale of the two. There's 5 VNs that have no horror content and are good, @Advokaiser. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Advokaiser 06/04/20 6:54:45 PM #363: |
Excelent.
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Whiskey_Nick 06/04/20 6:58:44 PM #364: |
i was the guy that specified season 1 of Telltale TWD
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 7:07:58 PM #365: |
46 Points 6 Supporters In retrospect, 999's placement should have been 17 (tie). The strength of Chrono Trigger's story comes from its pacing. It's not a particularly complex narrative, but whereas most JRPGs go for 60+ of story, Chrono Trigger can be completed in 20 hours and does a fantastic job at continuously leading the player from Plot Point A to Plot Point B to Plot Point C. Combine that with endearing character archetypes, classic artwork, and even some branching endings depending on player choices (a pretty big deal for a 90s game!), and you have an experience that still resonates with people decades later. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 06/04/20 7:09:06 PM #366: |
pffffffffffffffffffffft wat ever
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pezzicle 06/04/20 7:09:54 PM #367: |
MrSmartGuy posted...
Danganronpa is tamer than the Zero Escape characters in the design department. It's just that you can accidentally stumble on scenes that are cringey. Well, in the case of DRV3, there's one mandatory scene like that, but you can just skip the text when it comes up because it's not pertinent to the story whatsoever.That's fine. Random scenes are fine Characters that just walk around half naked is just weird to me anymore. I'm 33. I don't need that kind of thing in my games anymore --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:13:47 PM #368: |
Whiskey_Nick posted...
pffffffffffffffffffffft wat ever Indeed, Chrono Trigger's story is pretty whatever. Can't say I'm surprised to see it here, though! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrSmartGuy 06/04/20 7:15:39 PM #369: |
I think this is the worst it gets in DR, as far as regular sprites go.
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:15:39 PM #370: |
pezzicle posted...
That's fine. Random scenes are fine I'm that case I may have to retract my stance that you may want to shy away from DR, since that type of content is pretty exclusively in a handful of quick, specific scenes, and not just the natural state of the characters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 7:18:14 PM #371: |
47 Points 6 Supporters Three people voted for Umineko as a whole. The other three specified the Question Arc. Umineko is without a doubt the most batshit crazy murder mystery story in existence. It repeatedly deconstructs and reconstructs the genre, weaving the base concepts of a murder mystery into an ever-evolving narrative. The player is as much an actor in the story as any character, as half the game encourages the player to find the truth while the other half simultaneously tries to coerce the player into giving up. Umineko also works very well as a character drama, containing an extensively well-developed cast and a story goes places you won't expect, but it's this meta-but-not-meta narrative that truly sets the story apart. The second half of Umineko has a much more mixed reception than the first half, but even the people that didn't like it as much will swear by the first half, a.k.a. The Question Arc. There's a reason that Umineko overtook Board 8 for a time. You really had to be there for that zeitgeist experience. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:21:19 PM #372: |
WOAH, I am SHOCKED at that placement. I mean, I wanted Fata Morgana to beat it, sure, but thought it would be significantly higher!
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pezzicle 06/04/20 7:22:25 PM #373: |
Wish a lot of these were a available for PS4
My laptop can't run a damn thing --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 7:24:35 PM #374: |
pezzicle posted...
Wish a lot of these were a available for PS4Fata Morgana is. Not sure about Umineko. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:25:15 PM #375: |
For my list, Umineko should take almost no processing power whatsoever, even on a laptop. Other than that, everything else is on PS4!
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 7:25:54 PM #376: |
List as of now.
16.Umineko: When They Cry 17.Chrono Trigger 17.Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors 19.BioShock 20.The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series 21.The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 1 & 2 22.Steins;Gate 23.Suikoden II 24.Portal 2 25.The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 26.Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 27.Xenogears 28.Final Fantasy IX 29.Mass Effect 2 30.Final Fantasy VI 31.Metal Gear Solid 32.Deadly Premonition 33.Grim Fandango 34.Xenoblade Chronicles 35.Final Fantasy Tactics 36.Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 37.To the Moon 38.Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony 39.Outer Wilds 40.Red Dead Redemption2 41.SOMA 42.Utawarerumono Mask of Deception & Mask of Truth 43.Mother 3 44.Horizon Zero Dawn 45.Dark Souls 46.Persona 5 & Persona 5 Royal 47.What Remains of Edith Finch 48.Spec Ops: The Line 49.Tales of Berseria 50.Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective 51.The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 52.Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers 53.Celeste 54.Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 55.Tales of the Abyss 56.The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 57.Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 58.Doki Doki Literature Club 59.Vagrant Story 60.Gone Home 61.Gyakuten Kenji 2 62.Yakuza 0 63.Super Paper Mario --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 06/04/20 7:27:48 PM #377: |
KamikazePotato posted...
The player is as much an actor in the story as any character, as half the game encourages the player to find the truth while the other half simultaneously tries to coerce the player into giving up This is a large part of why I wasn't able to stomach Umineko. From my perspective this idea is just bad and has no business in serious storytelling. I know there's a story I'd like at the core of Umineko if I could ignore that, but I just can't. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:29:07 PM #378: |
Best version of Umineko doesn't have an official US release unfortunately (or an official release period, really), but it's pretty easy to find. I bought Umineko on Steam just to own it, but have never actually booted that version up because lol Pachinko sprites.
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:31:15 PM #379: |
pyresword posted...
From my perspective this idea is just bad and has no business in serious storytelling. You did not get far enough to see it, but this is pretty funny to read considering the statements in the Umineko narrative later on about how nobody has the right or authority to say what makes good storytelling and mystery <_< ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 06/04/20 7:32:18 PM #380: |
+10 Bioshock
+8 What Remains of Edith Finch +3 Gone Home +2 Spec Ops: The Line Still think my +7 has a decent chance but I kinda doubt the rest of mine make it at this point --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:33:52 PM #382: |
+10
+9 Umineko +8 Tales of the Abyss +7 +6 Danganronpa V3 +5 +4 +3 Tales of Berseria +2 Steins;Gate +1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 06/04/20 7:34:06 PM #383: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
For my list, Umineko should take almost no processing power whatsoever, even on a laptop. Other than that, everything else is on PS4!I can't even play out of the park 21 which is a baseball management sim lol --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 06/04/20 7:35:06 PM #384: |
pezzicle posted...
Did you give it points?!?! Y --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/04/20 7:36:20 PM #385: |
pyresword posted...
This is a large part of why I wasn't able to stomach Umineko. From my perspective this idea is just bad and has no business in serious storytelling. Umineko is better if you just take it at face value instead of trying to figure out the "tricks." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 06/04/20 7:36:26 PM #386: |
FFDragon posted...
YPerfect maybe it made it then --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:36:59 PM #387: |
pezzicle posted...
I can't even play out of the part 21 which is a baseball management sim lol Looking it up on youtube and this looks significantly more graphically intense than Umineko, not gonna lie. Can always just go to the Can You Run It website and see what it says. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iiicon 06/04/20 7:38:31 PM #388: |
iiicon posted...
My votes were like this:no changes yet! --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:39:54 PM #389: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Umineko is better if you just take it at face value instead of trying to figure out the "tricks." I beat it in 3 weeks and people thought I was crazy. I just...played. I see people taking days to get through and hour of game content because they're keeping a literal notebook, that ain't me fam. Just enjoy the narrative and characters. I'm the kind of guy who finished Umineko literally in tears (though I cried much harder earlier in that final chapter), and then started browsing the Ao3 page for fics that same night. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 06/04/20 7:39:56 PM #390: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Looking it up on youtube and this looks significantly more graphically intense than Umineko, not gonna lie.I will when I stand again lol --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:41:17 PM #391: |
pezzicle posted... I will when I stand again lol Umineko is like 120 hours long though, so Fata Morgan's nice and easy 35 may be a better starting point. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/04/20 7:49:59 PM #392: |
I think most of us blew through Umineko episodes pretty quickly back in the day. It's easy to get hooked on the story's presentation.
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 7:51:21 PM #393: |
People planned their schedules around Umineko episode release dates.
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pyresword 06/04/20 7:52:21 PM #394: |
Leonhart4 posted...
I tried this also. I attempted more than once to read through it. The problem is that so much of the screentime is devoted to this that it's impossible to ignore. What I suspect I should really do is just skip straight to the Answer arcs tbh. UshiromiyaEva posted...
This level of pretension is one of the other reasons I couldn't stomach the game! post edited to be less confrontational maybe. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tgs2 06/04/20 7:54:04 PM #395: |
I really wish I can get into VNs, but I just keep getting bored of em even though I have no problems playing "walking sims".
+10 Deus Ex* +9 +8 Witcher 3 +7 Chrono Trigger +6 +5 To The Moon +4 Deus Ex: Human Revolution* +3 Telltale's The Walking Dead: Season 1 +2 Portal 2 +1 Not looking good for my +9 at this point. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 7:55:19 PM #396: |
pyresword posted...
What I suspect I should really do is just skip straight to the Answer arcs tbh. OOOOOOOOOOOOF NOOOOO. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 06/04/20 7:58:08 PM #397: |
I don't know if you're saying that because of content of the Answer arcs themselves or if it's because I'll miss foreshadowing. If it's the latter though I will say that I already know most things about the story
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 8:04:30 PM #398: |
No, I love the Answer Arc. As someone who played the game purely for it's story and character content and made no attempt to "solve the mystery", I just can't abide by skipping content at all. You talking about skipping the answer arc to me is no different than saying you'll skip to Disk 3 of FFIX without playing the first 2, or start watching Breaking Bad on season 4. It's just a ridiculous idea, you don't skip narrative.
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Leonhart4 06/04/20 8:06:20 PM #399: |
The Answer arc is when the storytelling is at its most pretentious (episode 8 especially), so if that's what you didn't like about it, then that's not for you.
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KamikazePotato 06/04/20 8:07:47 PM #400: |
Okay now that I'm not doing a writeup where I'm trying to focus on the positives, Umineko Episode 8 is terrible outside of the last five minutes
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UshiromiyaEva 06/04/20 8:12:08 PM #401: |
I'm not exactly gonna sit here and say episode 8 is the creme of the crop, but I'll be damned if it didn't get the highest emotionally reaction out of me the largest number of times.
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Drakeryn 06/04/20 8:15:38 PM #402: |
episode 8 sure got emotional reactions out of me, I'll give it that
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Leonhart4 06/04/20 8:25:01 PM #403: |
I don't like Ange at all, so there was little chance episode 8 was going to resonate with me emotionally
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Mega Mana 06/04/20 8:25:10 PM #404: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Okay now that I'm not doing a writeup where I'm trying to focus on the positives, Umineko Episode 8 is terrible outside of the last five minutes Umineko Episode 8 is like the Game of Thrones Season 8 of... Of...... Uhhh..... Eight seasons of Game of Thrones. Eight seasons of Umineko. My mind wants to make comparisons. My mind needs to compaaaare..... *starts comparing Season 1 and Episode 1 fairly well, but stops because... this topic doesn't need spoiler talk for those who have not watched / played either* --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Whiskey_Nick 06/04/20 8:58:55 PM #405: |
+10 Chrono Trigger
+9 Final Fantasy 7 +8 Xenogears +7 Final Fantasy 11 +6 Telltale TWD Season 1 +5 Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled +4 The Last of Us +3 Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker +2 Bubble Bobble +1 NHL 94 --- I am Nick. Go Sens, Bills, Blue Jays! Azuarc is a Guru UotY 2015, You should listen to The Show w/ Ngamer and Yoblazer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 06/04/20 9:35:04 PM #406: |
Did Higurashi actually beat Umineko or did it just not make the list?
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