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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 7:52:08 PM
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1. It shows that people are willing to move on from characters like Peter Parker yet DC can't move on from Bruce Wayne or Barry Allen, etc.
2. He gives Bendis that royalty money

I hope the rest of the industry learns from the success of Miles and that comics can move on to a new generation

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dameon_reaper
06/11/20 7:53:44 PM
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There's a lot of conflict I'm reading into here.

But honestly, the reason people are okay with Miles is because Peter still exists. For Batman, you'd have to have a second Batman which i believe we have...just not as exciting.

As for Barry Allen, aren't there a few Flashes that get decent exposure?
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DarthAragorn
06/11/20 7:54:52 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty sure people love Wally West
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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 7:57:36 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
There's a lot of conflict I'm reading into here.

But honestly, the reason people are okay with Miles is because Peter still exists. For Batman, you'd have to have a second Batman which i believe we have...just not as exciting.

As for Barry Allen, aren't there a few Flashes that get decent exposure?
For Bruce we have Terry and Dick as established replacements and Damien as a potential replacement. Dick and Bruce can co-exists as Batman as evidenced by Batman Inc.

As for the Flash, Wally took over the mantle for about 30 years and became a beloved character. Then DC editorial brought back Barry, completely erased Wally, rebooted him as a different character, eventually brought him back to make him a hero murderer, and now he's dead again? Bart's character was destroyed by reboots. Jay is in limbo.

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Gakk86
06/11/20 7:59:11 PM
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It could be worse, it could be Miles Vorkosigan.

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Kelystic
06/11/20 8:00:59 PM
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is there a black Batman
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Zikten
06/11/20 8:01:05 PM
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BatmanWTtP posted...
It shows that people are willing to move on from characters like Peter Parker

except we shouldn't. he only got one game. and his story isn't over. the first game had a bunch of teasers for Peter's future. they better not be totally abandoning Peter. he IS and always WILL BE the true Spider-Man.

people are telling me this is just a spinoff sidegame and they still have Spider-Man 2 starring Peter or maybe playing both Peter and Miles, in the works. that better be true
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Zikten
06/11/20 8:02:46 PM
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Kelystic posted...
is there a black Batman

yes. well sortof. he calls himself Batwing. it's actually 2 people that have been Batwing but both were black. 1 was an African police officer. and then the new one was I think the son of Lucious Fox if I remember right.
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06/11/20 8:04:00 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
06/11/20 8:04:14 PM
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Zikten posted...
yes. well sortof. he calls himself Batwing. it's actually 2 people that have been Batwing but both were black. 1 was an African police officer. and then the new one was I think the son of Lucious Fox if I remember right.
That's his plane u noob
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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 8:04:46 PM
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Zikten posted...
except we shouldn't. he only got one game.
Peter has had literally every other Spider-Man game

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tremain07
06/11/20 8:04:51 PM
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Miles is baffling he's a PC character who somehow stayed around when shit like Galactus's daughter, Thor's femisist female counterpart and Iron woman were quickly shoved off and forgotten about, he's not even originally in the main timeline he's an Ultimate character they brought in when they killed Ultimate Spider Man Peter off for a few years.

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Kastrada
06/11/20 8:04:53 PM
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BatmanWTtP posted...
2. He gives Bendis that royalty money

I don't know who this is but why is it bad he is getting royalty money?

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Zikten
06/11/20 8:04:54 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

That's his plane u noob

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwing_(DC_Comics)

he started in 2011 in the comics
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Zikten
06/11/20 8:06:03 PM
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BatmanWTtP posted...
Peter has had literally every other Spider-Man game

i'm talking about the Playstation-verse Spider-Man

it's dumb to set up a cool new take on Peter Parker and then make him retire after only one game. he's still like only 24 years old. anyway, most of the historical Spider-Man games throughout history were total trash so they don't count.
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LightningAce11
06/11/20 8:06:53 PM
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Also spiderverse really made him popular.
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Zikten
06/11/20 8:07:24 PM
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Kastrada posted...
I don't know who this is but why is it bad he is getting royalty money?

Bendis is one of the main writers of Marvel comics though I think he recently switched sides and now works for DC. he's very controversial because he has done some really good stuff, but also some really shitty stuff. he's a very polarizing writer
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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 8:07:30 PM
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Kastrada posted...
I don't know who this is but why is it bad he is getting royalty money?
Bendis is the creator of Miles Morales who has a history of ruining stories and characters in favor of pushing his own creations in their place.

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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 8:08:22 PM
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Zikten posted...
i'm talking about the Playstation-verse Spider-Man

it's dumb to set up a cool new take on Peter Parker and then make him retire after only one game. he's still like only 24 years old. anyway, most of the historical Spider-Man games throughout history were total trash so they don't count.
He's at DC right now. He took Superman's beloved son and aged him up through magic and basically destroyed Superman's family for a few years

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dave_is_slick
06/11/20 8:08:29 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Also spiderverse really made him popular.
I don't think Spiderverse would've been possible without him being sorta well known before though. No doubt it gave him a massive boost but he was slowly getting there on his own merits.

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Solid Sonic
06/11/20 8:09:23 PM
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I thought people said Miles was a great hero. Like literally the only good thing going in the Ultimate universe.

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tremain07
06/11/20 8:16:49 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
I thought people said Miles was a great hero. Like literally the only good thing going in the Ultimate universe.
Who told you that bullshit Miles was just one of many things wrong with Ultimate like their Deadpool was taken completely seriously, their Reed Richards was a complete nutter and just as bad as Doom, their hulk was a human eater and constantly in savage mode , their Captain American was a total douchebag hard rightests would love and their Iron man was an even bigger manwhore than the mainline one. Ultimate existed as a dumping ground for ideas Marvel didn't have the guts to do to their mainline characters back then

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DD Divine
06/11/20 8:18:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
Bendis is one of the main writers of Marvel comics though I think he recently switched sides and now works for DC. he's very controversial because he has done some really good stuff, but also some really shitty stuff. he's a very polarizing writer

hes a super nice guy though. Every time I met him at cons and such hes very pleasant. Even running into him in the dealers room and hes polite.


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Kelystic
06/11/20 9:11:14 PM
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I know Fox Batwing.

But is there a literal Black Batman?
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Odoylerules
06/11/20 9:11:49 PM
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in the comics is there any other person who plays Batman?

i dont mean as a gimmick for an episode, but actually takes over the role.
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Smashingpmkns
06/11/20 9:13:09 PM
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Miles is cool. Bendis was cool at one point but he's kinda hacky now. His Ultimate Spiderman run was legendary as a teenager growing up with it.
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DevsBro
06/11/20 9:14:47 PM
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Tell me about it, Jay Garrick and Alan Scott got old ages ago.

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pauIie
06/11/20 9:16:38 PM
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people like batman beyond but idk if it's because of terry's character specifically

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DevsBro
06/11/20 9:18:04 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
in the comics is there any other person who plays Batman?

i dont mean as a gimmick for an episode, but actually takes over the role.
There have been lots of Batmans but most of them were temporary. Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Damien Wayne, Jean-Paul Valley, even Two-Face did once.

Only one I can think of that became the new Batman permanently was Terry McGinnis. And yes, he does have comics.

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coh
06/11/20 9:18:08 PM
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No superheroes are as closely associated with their alter egos as Batman and Spider Man
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DevsBro
06/11/20 9:20:13 PM
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PrideOfLion posted...
Speaking of Green Lantern, I think most people are more familiar with John "Black Architect/Marine" Stewart than Hal "Generic White Male" Jordan
Just people who watched the Justice League cartoon. John was never a particularly relevant or popular GL in any other media whatsoever. They evidently just picked him to have a black guy as one of the major characters.

They should have picked Steel and a different GL tbh. But that's neither here nor there.

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Zikten
06/11/20 9:20:26 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
in the comics is there any other person who plays Batman?

i dont mean as a gimmick for an episode, but actually takes over the role.

not counting the future Terry McGinnis from Batman Beyond, in the normal timeline there is Dick Grayson the original Robin. Once when Bruce was thought dead and missing, he took over as Batman. Also a French guy (I think he was french) was batman once in the 90s after Bruce had his back broken by Bane

And again more recently like sometime in the last 10 years there was a short time that Commisioner Gordon took on the role
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Darmik
06/11/20 9:21:42 PM
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They've tried to develop some alternate Batman games. There was a Batman by Gaslight game and one starring Damien Wayne. Both got cancelled though.

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ZeroX91
06/11/20 9:21:45 PM
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Terry best batnan

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SSJGrimReaper
06/11/20 9:22:36 PM
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ZeroX91 posted...
batnan


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Squall28
06/11/20 9:24:59 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Also spiderverse really made him popular.

Going to go with this. Great movie.

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Esrac
06/11/20 9:34:03 PM
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coh posted...
No superheroes are as closely associated with their alter egos as Batman and Spider Man

That is entirely untrue.

I mean, Superman is exhibit A.
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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 9:36:03 PM
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Odoylerules posted...
in the comics is there any other person who plays Batman?

i dont mean as a gimmick for an episode, but actually takes over the role.
Terry had the entire Batman Beyond cartoon and various comics. Though his comics suffered from premature endings and bad editoral decisions. Dick Grayson was Batman for a years before New 52 made him Nightwing for no reason.

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SSJKirby
06/11/20 9:37:20 PM
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Miles Morales wasn't a good character until Spiderverse

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AzurexNightmare
06/11/20 9:40:51 PM
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BatmanWTtP posted...
He's at DC right now. He took Superman's beloved son and aged him up through magic and basically destroyed Superman's family for a few years
wtf are you talking about dude

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BatmanWTtP
06/11/20 9:48:15 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
wtf are you talking about dude


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Esrac
06/11/20 9:51:26 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
wtf are you talking about dude

After/during the DC Rebirth arc for Superman, he and Lois had a son who was about Damien's age. It was kinda heart warming to see Clark and his kid, etc.

Then Bendis got ahold of the Superman comics and shit up that whole set up by sending Jonathan to space with his crazy grandpa and came back like a week later all grown up.
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AzurexNightmare
06/11/20 9:57:26 PM
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He was talking about Spiderman what does this have to do with DC XD

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MrNintendo1213
06/11/20 9:59:55 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
I thought people said Miles was a great hero. Like literally the only good thing going in the Ultimate universe.
Who told you that bullshit Miles was just one of many things wrong with Ultimate like their Deadpool was taken completely seriously, their Reed Richards was a complete nutter and just as bad as Doom, their hulk was a human eater and constantly in savage mode , their Captain American was a total douchebag hard rightests would love and their Iron man was an even bigger manwhore than the mainline one. Ultimate existed as a dumping ground for ideas Marvel didn't have the guts to do to their mainline characters back then


I didn't read that much of the Ultimate comics stuff, but I've heard about a lot of that stuff before. Tbh I think it's kind or cool to have the weird grim dark universe with a Captain America straight out of the 40s, and other crazy shit. I really only read Ultimate Spider Man, and I stopped reading it a few issues before Ultimatum did the thing that caused Miles to eventually be a thing.

And I don't think Deadpool was taken seriously. From what I remember he was the host of a intergalactic tv show either set on, or similar to Mojoworld. He would talk to the camera and the audience at home as his version of breaking the fourth wall as they hunted people down for entertainment. And he turned out to be even uglier than regular Deadpool, under his mask he was like a brain in a jar shaped like a head or something.
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Zikten
06/11/20 11:50:29 PM
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Basically everyone in the Ultimate universe tends to an asshole. Except Peter Parker. He was like the only good person in that universe
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coh
06/12/20 2:23:23 AM
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Esrac posted...
That is entirely untrue.

I mean, Superman is exhibit A.
Oh yeah. But besides him, who else then?
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Esrac
06/12/20 10:44:23 AM
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coh posted...
Oh yeah. But besides him, who else then?
Off the top of my head, probably Wonder Woman and Shazam/Captain Marvel.

Depending on what you mean by closely associated.
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Dathrowed1
06/12/20 10:51:16 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
I thought people said Miles was a great hero. Like literally the only good thing going in the Ultimate universe.
Miles Morales was nothing special until the movie came out

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
06/12/20 12:02:40 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
Miles Morales was nothing special until the movie came out
The movie came out because Miles Morales was something special
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