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Alteres
06/20/20 4:32:53 PM
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mrgoatthief posted...
What happened?
Nobody seems to give a damn.

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UnfairRepresent
06/20/20 4:34:22 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...

You keep changing your goalpost to more whiny reactionary shit in every post.


You're projecting

First it's think of the families that were ruined by overdoses that wouldn't happen if they weren't addicted.


The people going to these places are already addicted. They already exist. Why are you ignoring that? This didn't create anything.

We've been stepping on drug addicts for a century and all it has done is made them suffer and die

Then it's how they need to learn how to use drugs,


*facepalm* You really have absolutely no idea do you?


Then it's not the governments fault for promoting illegal activities.


Well personally I don't think it should be illegal.

But no it's not the Government's fault anyone takes drugs. However it makes sense for the government to take action that mimizies the amount of addicts and the negative effects drugs can have. Such as safe injection sites with tools to help people stop

Then blaming actual injectors for drug abuse isn't comparable to blaming an FFL for a stolen gun being used in a killing.


I never mentioned anything about guns

It's very liberal of you.


If you have to lie to make a point and believe accepting facts is liberalism then using it as an insult is crazy.


Nobody is supporting the use of drugs.

Making it so people don't die and have access/knowledge of people who can help them/not being alone/being safe makes them far more likely to quit, far less likely to die and far less likely to commit crimes.

Every single place such a concept has been implemented in has resulted in a drop in violent crime and death among addicts and helped more people kick their habbits.


You can't just ignore that by whining about drug laws or pretending people are supporting drug use.

You seem to have absolutely no idea what the actual problems drug addicts and consequences of drug addiction are.

You remind me of people who say condoms should be banned because they promote having sex.
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Anticyclonic
06/20/20 4:34:29 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/police-investigating-shooting-inside-seattles-no-cop-chaz-zone-1512330

Police are investigating
I thought they weren't allowed in.

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Dathrowed1
06/20/20 4:37:17 PM
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Hmm according to the article a 19 year old man was killed and the other person has life threatening injuries. The killer is at large

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/20/20 4:37:44 PM
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Who didnt see this coming

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VipaGTS
06/20/20 4:49:13 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Who didnt see this coming
See what coming? There are shootings all over the country. Did you expect cops to prevent a shooting somehow? Whats stopping them in the rest of the country? Theyd just report afterwards. (Or shoot the victim themselves out of confusion once they get there)

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Tropicalwood
06/20/20 4:52:32 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Oh, now you're changing the goalpost to "Oh it prevents crimes", when the states and cities typically make less things illegal, and make police ignore other so called "petty crimes."

Or in the case of Osaka, Japan. Police just don't file the reports on those crimes so their cities are safer on paper.

So why all the goalpost changes and glorification of drug addiction.

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SuperShake666
06/20/20 4:58:47 PM
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Someone check the temperature in Hell, I actually agree with a UR post.

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Monolith1676
06/20/20 5:15:23 PM
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And of course they made it hard for police to help and so far no one has given them a description. They are so lost and confused it is sad.

I bet the incident played out similarly to this: two guys are shot, they immediately yell call the police, one guy dies the other remains critically injured, police arrive and are met with hostile crowds and no one helps the police.

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/20/20 5:27:25 PM
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https://youtu.be/NmzkfmtEg9o

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/20/20 5:44:20 PM
#62:


VipaGTS posted...
See what coming? There are shootings all over the country. Did you expect cops to prevent a shooting somehow? Whats stopping them in the rest of the country? Theyd just report afterwards. (Or shoot the victim themselves out of confusion once they get there)

Its not a city, its like 3 blocks total and next to a police station

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Tyranthraxus
06/20/20 5:53:16 PM
#63:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Its not a city, its like 3 blocks total and next to a police station
It's actually small enough that Tom Brady could probably throw from one end to the other and not have to depend on passing interference.

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J E S U S
06/20/20 6:03:29 PM
#64:


Monolith1676 posted...
And of course they made it hard for police to help and so far no one has given them a description. They are so lost and confused it is sad.

I bet the incident played out similarly to this: two guys are shot, they immediately yell call the police, one guy dies the other remains critically injured, police arrive and are met with hostile crowds and no one helps the police.

from what I read thats pretty much what happened except they had to drive the victims to the hospital in personal vehicles. Probably because they werent letting the authorities near


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kingdrake2
06/20/20 9:03:13 PM
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J E S U S posted...
Probably because they werent letting the authorities near


it's not so great. people can die if they don't get to the hospital fast enough.
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Monolith1676
06/20/20 9:10:17 PM
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Doesn't seem that the life of the black man that died last night mattered to the people there.

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HiddenRoar
06/20/20 9:16:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I, for one, am shocked that there would be a shooting in a city. That has never happened before with police around so this demonstrates the need for more patrolling.

The argument by BLM is that the police are the ones causing violence to happen, and that the community wouldn't be as violent if there weren't police to start trouble in the first place.

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Monolith1676
06/20/20 9:20:58 PM
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HiddenRoar posted...
The argument by BLM is that the police are the ones causing violence to happen, and that the community wouldn't be as violent if there weren't police to start trouble in the first place.

Personal accountability is on the extinction list alongside the Dodo.

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NeonOctopus
06/20/20 9:22:13 PM
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Questionmarktarius
06/20/20 9:30:42 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Personal accountability is on the extinction list alongside the Dodo.
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Steelix500
06/23/20 12:08:00 AM
#71:


https://youtu.be/Uo2ITO5ThH8

There was another shooting today

TL;DW

Guy livestreams some of the shooting then hangs around behind cover for a bit. Then someguy steals his phone and takes it to some armed guards and doesn't realize its still streaming.

Pretty funny how if you're not armed the guards call you civillians and treat you like shit.

For whatever reason they don't want people recording
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VTBM
06/23/20 12:17:16 AM
#72:


Steelix500 posted...
https://youtu.be/Uo2ITO5ThH8

There was another shooting today

TL;DW

Guy livestreams some of the shooting then hangs around behind cover for a bit. Then someguy steals his phone and takes it to some armed guards and doesn't realize its still streaming.

Pretty funny how if you're not armed the guards call you civillians and treat you like shit.

For whatever reason they don't want people recording

That's hilarious! I like how they are the thing they claim to be against.

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Dathrowed1
06/23/20 12:25:34 AM
#73:


Steelix500 posted...
https://youtu.be/Uo2ITO5ThH8

There was another shooting today

TL;DW

Guy livestreams some of the shooting then hangs around behind cover for a bit. Then someguy steals his phone and takes it to some armed guards and doesn't realize its still streaming.

Pretty funny how if you're not armed the guards call you civillians and treat you like shit.

For whatever reason they don't want people recording
If they are going to be this way, just let the police back in

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Kaiganeer
06/23/20 1:11:53 AM
#74:


"when we said that we want communities policing themselves, we meant giving guns to untrained idiots and letting them do whatever they want"

these people and anyone that supports them are fucking lunatics
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ThyCorndog
06/23/20 1:13:47 AM
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how come like 90% of the people talking about CHAZ are far right/alt right ppl

like barely anyone else talks about it

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parabola_master
06/23/20 1:27:22 AM
#76:


Steelix500 posted...
https://youtu.be/Uo2ITO5ThH8

There was another shooting today

TL;DW

Guy livestreams some of the shooting then hangs around behind cover for a bit. Then someguy steals his phone and takes it to some armed guards and doesn't realize its still streaming.

Pretty funny how if you're not armed the guards call you civillians and treat you like shit.

For whatever reason they don't want people recording

wow
i cant believe all this is actually happening

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shnangyboos
06/23/20 1:29:54 AM
#77:


Steelix500 posted...
https://youtu.be/Uo2ITO5ThH8

There was another shooting today

TL;DW

Guy livestreams some of the shooting then hangs around behind cover for a bit. Then someguy steals his phone and takes it to some armed guards and doesn't realize its still streaming.

Pretty funny how if you're not armed the guards call you civillians and treat you like shit.

For whatever reason they don't want people recording


How in the fuck can people be so goddamn oblivious. They're just going to replace the police as power abusing scumbags.

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shnangyboos
06/23/20 1:32:23 AM
#78:


ThyCorndog posted...
how come like 90% of the people talking about CHAZ are far right/alt right ppl

like barely anyone else talks about it


Seems pretty obvious why the left wouldn't talk about it. I have to assume you're just labeling anybody right as far right.

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Guide
06/23/20 7:13:02 AM
#80:


Tropicalwood posted...
Well if you think about it logically. Helping people do drugs is the same as promoting their use, their use is inherently negative on both body and mind. So the fact that the city council not only looks the other way on narcotics, but assist in using them probably isn't in the best intentions.
If anything, these politicians are getting paid with drug money.

Also the irony of a lot of the users that support LA and Seattle assisting in the abuse of drugs, is they were against the Right-To-Try act (non-FDA approved drugs can be used by terminally ill patents), simply because Trump supported it.

Have you looked at all into why the drug use is assisted, or is this all one massive assumption?

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The Trent
06/23/20 7:47:34 AM
#81:


ThyCorndog posted...
how come like 90% of the people talking about CHAZ are far right/alt right ppl

like barely anyone else talks about it

hahahahaha

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SH_expert44
06/23/20 7:51:26 AM
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So are these fuckwits supposed to be communists or something?

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HagenEx
06/23/20 8:07:33 AM
#83:


It's kinda eerie how similar that shithole is to the "peace zones" we have over here in Venezuela.

They're controlled by mobsters, backed and supplied by Maduro's irregular paramilitary groups called the Colectivos, and encompass several acres of "ranchos" and decayed buildings, where they produce and sell drugs.

There's one of those about 2 miles from the Palacio de Miraflores too, called "Cota 905".

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 8:36:13 AM
#84:


DuranOfForcena posted...
i for one am center-left


Why are you lying?



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Guide
06/23/20 9:01:32 AM
#85:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
Why are you lying?


Wow.

Wow. I knew duran was bad, but that's just out-and-out.

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 9:05:07 AM
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Guide posted...
Wow.

Wow. I knew duran was bad, but that's just out-and-out.

Shouldn't be a surprise that he was never banned given who the Lead Mod was at the time.

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gatorsPENSbucs
06/23/20 9:06:19 AM
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Guide
06/23/20 9:08:27 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
People just hold onto screenshots from 6 years ago?

What, were you racist six years ago?

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 9:12:47 AM
#89:


In the interest of full disclosure, I saved a handful of screenshots from GameFAQs and other online forums/image boards for a college paper on alt-right radicalization in online spaces. That was a particularly egregious one that I shared. I infiltrated a number of Discord chats and Facebook groups as well. All in all some pretty jarring stuff and I'm not surprised that a user like gatorspensbucs is trying to handwave it as stupid!

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Were_Wyrm
06/23/20 9:17:29 AM
#90:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
People just hold onto screenshots from 6 years ago?
CE is the most srs of bzns

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 11:49:56 AM
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Nah theres really no way to wiggle out of what was a blatantly, disgustingly racist statement. Fuck off.

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 12:01:46 PM
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Im very interested in learning why you dont think that statement is racist.

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 1:14:29 PM
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Its not the way according to who? You?


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HagenEx
06/23/20 1:20:55 PM
#98:


DuranOfForcena posted...
because it's not. it's a statement of fact that the rioting and looting that happened after the Michael Brown incident did absolutely nothing to legitimize the fight for racial equality, and only served to make the people who are against that fight think they are in the right and justified, as it does every single time there is indiscriminate rioting and looting in response to racial injustices. that is not the way. it never has been and never will be.

I wholeheartedly agree.

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FursonaNonGrata
06/23/20 1:51:17 PM
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As someone on the center-left, why do you think its beneficial or even possible to kowtow to racists/conservatives who currently dont believe that POC are entitled to the same rights as they are? Are you saying that protests should be presented in a way thats convenient to them?

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