Current Events > Statue of well known Confederate general and slave owner defaced

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AlephZero
06/22/20 1:37:54 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbIS2xWXkAAJogv?format=png&name=900x900

We need to eliminate all references to our racist past.

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Vicious_Dios
06/22/20 1:43:33 PM
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False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.

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The23rdMagus
06/22/20 1:44:09 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.
I can see how well that's working.

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GrandConjuraton
06/22/20 1:46:16 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.
In theory, they should... but we need to do a better job of making sure that message gets across by making a museum of shame or something for them, x.x

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Zikten
06/22/20 1:49:26 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.

doesn't work that way. if we have them out in town squares, that is honoring them, not "reminding us of a dark past". the people who live in those towns love the statue and don't feel shame or "never again" when they look at it. when WW2 ended Germany didn't keep up hitler statues to "remind them never again". they demolished most of them and put anything that remained in a museum about teaching people that Hitler was wrong.
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GodIsImaginary
06/22/20 1:51:03 PM
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Sounds good, I support anything that pisses off the rednecks.
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Sewage
06/22/20 1:51:28 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.

Then put them in a museum. You don't have statues in the street to remind you on what not to do. Germany doesn't have Hitler statues in the middle of a fucking park.
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Guide
06/22/20 1:52:29 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.

They do not and haven't been. They can, but you must give them context.

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masterpug53
06/22/20 1:53:49 PM
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Expected Washington or Jefferson entering the topic. Was surprised to find some dude who looks like a member of the Spanish Inquisition, which I quite ironically did not expect.

Had to reverse-search to find out that's Stevie Ray Vaughn. I thought he dressed more flamboyantly than that.

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Darkrobotisback
06/22/20 1:54:20 PM
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What about mount Rushmore, some of our founding fathers were racist/slave owners.
Should we also destroy books or literature because of racism from the past?
What about paintings or media that archived/depicts racism or slavery?
Should we also just nuke the south or states filled with racist people or racist organizations???

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Zikten
06/22/20 1:57:11 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
What about mount Rushmore, some of our founding fathers were racist/slave owners.

maybe

Darkrobotisback posted...
Should we also destroy books or literature because of racism from the past?

no that's art and has context

Darkrobotisback posted...
What about paintings or media that archived/depicts racism or slavery?

same as above

Darkrobotisback posted...
Should we also just nuke the south or states filled with racist people or racist organizations???

we need to pass harsh laws to finally destroy the culture of racism like Germany did after WW2
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Guide
06/22/20 1:57:18 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
What about mount Rushmore, some of our founding fathers were racist/slave owners.
Should we also destroy books or literature because of racism from the past?
What about paintings or media that archived/depicts racism or slavery?
Should we also just nuke the south or states filled with racist people or racist organizations???

Look ma, it's a slippery slope!

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The23rdMagus
06/22/20 1:58:26 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
What about mount Rushmore, some of our founding fathers were racist/slave owners.
I'd be more concerned that it was carved into a sacred mountain.

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The Trent
06/22/20 2:00:05 PM
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FUCK anyone who doesn't dig stevie ray vaughan

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The Trent
06/22/20 2:00:39 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
I'd be more concerned that it was carved into a sacred mountain.

wtf now we care about religions

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Guide
06/22/20 2:01:54 PM
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The Trent posted...
wtf now we care about religions

The mountain wasn't trying to tell us who we're allowed to fuck with consent, Bront.

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Darkrobotisback
06/22/20 2:02:44 PM
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Guide posted...
Look ma, it's a slippery slope!
There is no slippery slope
What people fail to realize is that they're either racist themselves (they won't admit it obviously because of hypocrisy) or they have some kinda prejudice against someone or a type of person they deem to be inferior.
Ex:
-Why do people look down at people who think a certain way or how they view themselves to be?
-why do people look down at people for expressing a certain religion or be part of some kinda religious community
-why do some people mistreat the disabled/elderly or those that have some kinda medical condition?
-why do some people hate the way certain people look (body size, weight, hair color, freckles/no freckles)?

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Guide
06/22/20 2:13:48 PM
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I have no idea how what you're saying in that post comes from my response to your last post.

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Darkrobotisback
06/22/20 2:17:49 PM
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Guide posted...
I have no idea how what you're saying in that post comes from my response to your last post.

"People don't treat each other equally"
That's what I'm trying to say.
This is why racism exist, among many other of the world's problems.

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ZMythos
06/22/20 2:19:01 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.
What a stupid take.

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Questionmarktarius
06/22/20 2:19:10 PM
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...file transfer protocol?
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eston
06/22/20 2:19:30 PM
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I don't even necessarily agree with the "put them in a museum!" crowd. Not all statues are historically significant, regardless of what they depict. Most statues are just decorations and don't hold any real importance themselves, and it's ridiculous to expect museums to make room for a bunch of junk no one will come to see. Some statues should be preserved, but it's a relatively small number

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Doe
06/22/20 2:19:52 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
False. They serve as a reminder to us of what not do again.
No they don't lmao. They glorify these people.

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Guide
06/22/20 2:20:19 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
"People don't treat each other equally"
That's what I'm trying to say.
This is why racism exist, among many other of the world's problems.

Yes, I get that, I just don't know how you got that from me calling your slope slippery.

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Questionmarktarius
06/22/20 2:20:49 PM
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eston posted...
I don't even necessarily agree with the "put them in a museum!" crowd.
Sell them to rich good ol' boys.
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Alteres
06/22/20 2:23:23 PM
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This thread is such a microcosm of CE.

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