Board 8 > Spider-Man Homecoming is the second best MCU movie

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prove me wrong

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You have a shitty taste

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from you, that's a compliment!

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If anything it's the second WORST movie behind Black Panther
Yes, even Thor 1 and 2 were better

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Nanis23 posted...

If anything it's the second WORST movie behind Black Panther
Yes, even Thor 1 and 2 were better

your honor i rest my case

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And when you flip the LMS coin over, you find this.

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Nanis23 posted...

If anything it's the second WORST movie behind Black Panther
Yes, even Thor 1 and 2 were better

Nanis23 posted...

You have a shitty taste

I like the Thor movies more than most people but this is a terrible Nanis take.

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It's at least top five, yeah

Humor was spot on, Keaton was a really good villain, they already implemented Spidey so it didn't have to go through another origin story, it was more him just trying to adapt to his newfound status as a superhero

oh and black panther was the second best behind ragnarok imo

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Murphiroth posted...

I like the Thor movies more than most people but this is a terrible Nanis take.

They were super boring, yes, but at least they didn't ruin the main character
Spider Man Homecoming is not a Spider-Man movie. It's a Iron Man movie. That's the main fucking problem

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Nanis23 posted...

They were super boring, yes, but at least they didn't ruin the main character
Spider Man Homecoming is not a Spider-Man movie. It's a Iron Man movie. That's the main fucking problem

This sounds like a take from somebody that hasn't seen the movie but has seen one image that had Tony Stark in it.

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I hate Tony Stark and I still think this is a reasonable take

Movie good

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I think you could find a legitimate criticism that there was too much iron man in the movie.

You lose the legitimacy when you say it was an iron man movie, though.

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As a Spidey fan, it hit all the right notes for me.

So far, of all multi-movie MCU franchises, Spider-Man has the best average quality to me.

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if you've seen all the marvel movies and still think black panther is the absolute worst one, you might be a racist

I think I agree with this take actually

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winter soldier
homecoming
ragnarok
iron man 1
infinity war

something like that

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Snrkiko posted...

winter soldier
homecoming
ragnarok
iron man 1
infinity war

something like that

O_o

I think we might share top 5s

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i enjoy the gotg movies but for some reason they don't click with me like they seem to do for tons of others

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still haven't seen far from home tho

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Avengers: Infinity War
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Thor: Ragnarok
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Spider-Man: Far From Home

Top 5 for me, with Black Panther outside looking in.


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btw civil war is a movie that was very entertaining at first but falls completely apart the moment you start thinking about the villain's motivations

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I thought far from home was fine but it felt too much like homecoming but worse.

Like I already ate cake. I don't want more slightly lower quality cake

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yeah but it had the singular best sequence in a marvel film so

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Snrkiko posted...

btw civil war is a movie that was very entertaining at first but falls completely apart the moment you start thinking about the villain's motivations

I couldn't get over now dumb the premise was.

You could always sign the accords and then not follow them if you felt it was necessary for freedom

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huh, i'm also in the "homecoming > far from home" camp and thought i was in the minority, but now there's already three people who prefer homecoming!

far from home is still good but yeah.

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masterplum posted...

I couldn't get over now dumb the premise was.

You could always sign the accords and then not follow them if you felt it was necessary for freedom

MY PLAN WAS TO REVIVE SOME CRAZY RUSSIAN SUPER SOLDIERS TO GRIEF A TEAM OF SUPERHEROES THAT ONLY JUST RECENTLY CAME INTO EXISTENCE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOU COME TO THIS REMOTE BUNKER TO WATCH A VIDEO OF YOUR DAD BEING KIND OF A DICK or something I've tried to repress how dumb the underlying premise for the dispute was

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masterplum posted...

I couldn't get over now dumb the premise was.

You could always sign the accords and then not follow them if you felt it was necessary for freedom

To be fair, wouldn't that have just resulted in the same thing?

It's "Heroes that signed the accords, go fight the ones that won't" vs. "Heroes that are following the accords, go fight the ones that aren't."

I think that part of it seemed fine. It was the rest that was ehhh

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also I'm going to take this moment to express my general upsetness over how the movies quickly turned into laser beams pew pew with no real weight to the actual fighting

bring back the gritty heavy metal vibe of the mark 1 suit

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Nanis23 posted...

If anything it's the second WORST movie behind Black Panther
Yes, even Thor 1 and 2 were better

Black panther and spidey are my fav stand alones lol

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Nanis23 posted...

They were super boring, yes, but at least they didn't ruin the main character
Spider Man Homecoming is not a Spider-Man movie. It's a Iron Man movie. That's the main fucking problem

Incorrect. Iron Man is in the movie for less than 10 minutes IIRC. Really sounds like you haven't actually watched it and are just parroting things you've heard on the internet.

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Snrkiko posted...

also I'm going to take this moment to express my general upsetness over how the movies quickly turned into laser beams pew pew with no real weight to the actual fighting

bring back the gritty heavy metal vibe of the mark 1 suit

One thing I appreciate is in Infinity War when the Guardians fight Iron Man/Spiderman/Strange, Star-Lord almost beats Iron Man/Spiderman singlehandedly with simple tricks because they don't seem to know how to deal with him once he stops just shooting lasers back at them.

EDIT: It's also what makes him the first one to land an effective hit on Thanos in the first battle.

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HashtagSEP posted...

This sounds like a take from somebody that hasn't seen the movie but has seen one image that had Tony Stark in it.

Not really, I saw all of them besides Far From Home
Iron Man saved the day in every single instance besides the last one
And even then it was fucking stupid, risking the entire city just to catch a thief

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I think Winter Soldier and Ragnarok are the only great MCU movies so I obviously don't agree, but Homecoming is in the next tier of movies so yeah, sure, it's close enough.

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Snrkiko posted...

btw civil war is a movie that was very entertaining at first but falls completely apart the moment you start thinking about the villain, Captain America's, motivations

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Just barely outside the top 5 for me.

top 5 is Endgame, Infinity Wars, Winter Soldier, Thor Ragnarok, and GOTG1

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Best movie is easily Winter Soldier
Followed by GotG

And if we can include other Marvel-but-not-really-MCU then Logan and Deadpool 1 and 2

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masterplum posted...

I couldn't get over now dumb the premise was.

You could always sign the accords and then not follow them if you felt it was necessary for freedom

In fact, that was literally Tonys plan.

The Cap defenders of Civil War drive me insane, especially when its the movie version where Cap know about and is also protecting the guy who assassinated Tonys parents.


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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

where Cap know about and is also protecting the guy who assassinated Tonys parents.

I mean it's blatantly not that simple.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

In fact, that was literally Tonys plan.

The Cap defenders of Civil War drive me insane, especially when its the movie version where Cap know about and is also protecting the guy who assassinated Tonys parents.

can't believe Tony is in here arguing for government cops to assassinate the mentally ill

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Also, at that time, Tony's going through his self-pity phase of "I created Ultron and clearly I'm dangerous so I don't want to be responsible for myself anymore," so he's not exactly unbiased in his decisions, either.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

can't believe Tony is in here arguing for government cops to assassinate the mentally ill

This actually makes it so weird to me!

Stark's side is 100% "Give the government/law enforcement much more power, and let's let them take away our guns"

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2020 and we're still arguing about who was right in civil war lol

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Sorry we'll go back to trying to figure out why there's controversy about The Last Jedi.

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Phenomenal movie!

The tippie top of the MCU is a competitive place though.

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Some REAL bad takes about Civil war itt tho

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civil war's plot is stupid either way

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This is such a tangent, but does anyone remember reading Civil War (the comic version) as it came out? I just recall it being so much fun anticipating which heroes would fall on which side over the course of several months. Honestly, it was pretty gripping stuff. There was always animated discussion about who would go Cap or Stark at my local comic shop between the regulars back then - both it and Infinite Crisis really got me into comics at both DC and Marvel, pushing me to actually go buy weekly comics for the first time. I've always thought the one thing Civil War was missing in the movie was that long, extended build. I get they were doing their own thing, but those months of reading titles like Civil War: Front Line and Choosing Sides were a lot fun. I'll admit that I'm sad we never got that on a massive scale with the MCU.

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I agree that the premise of the Accords is weak, but wtf is this post?

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

In fact, that was literally Tonys plan.

The Cap defenders of Civil War drive me insane

Soooo Cap is wrong? The Accords are a good idea? Because Tony's plan is to sign them and then not follow them?

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Homecoming is also my second favorite MCU movie, I think, if only for the car scene alone which might be one of the most exciting scenes I've ever seen in a film.and that's somehow not even a joke.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Homecoming is also my second favorite MCU movie, I think, if only for the car scene alone which might be one of the most exciting scenes I've ever seen in a film.and that's somehow not even a joke.

I don't know if "exciting" is the right word. It's more like that feeling when your insides just fall out of you because you're stunned by a revelation, and you just can't recover, if that makes sense? In a weird way, it's terrifying. Not scary, but terrifying.

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