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Slaya4 06/27/20 4:42:36 PM #1: |
We need to do away with it tbh. I took up learning how to type a few weeks ago and I started with 20 wpm and now I'm up to ~65 wpm. I'm still not great, but I'm noticing how left hand heavy the QWERTY layout is.
I could go out my way and learn another keyboard layout but seems super inconvenient now since I'm just getting the hang of QWERTY. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 06/27/20 4:43:09 PM #2: |
How old are you that you're just now learning how to type what the fuck
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Reis 06/27/20 4:43:12 PM #3: |
get good
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Choco 06/27/20 4:43:25 PM #4: |
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Choco 06/27/20 4:43:49 PM #5: |
DarthAragorn posted...
How old are you that you're just now learning how to type what the fucki assume they're talking about learning 10 finger typing. --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 06/27/20 4:44:28 PM #6: |
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UnholyMudcrab 06/27/20 4:51:07 PM #8: |
Copy_X_Mk_ll posted...
Its left-hand heavy so you can type in the name of the porn youre looking for without needing to use your right Sweaterdresses is my favorite porn --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 06/27/20 5:06:18 PM #9: |
Choco posted...
build an ergodox Seems like playing with a Wiimote, but is an option. Choco posted... i assume they're talking about learning 10 finger typing. Yeah, but even then people think I'm weird for not learning. Copy_X_Mk_ll posted... Its left-hand heavy so you can type in the name of the porn youre looking for without needing to use your right What if you're left handed though? --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 06/27/20 5:10:20 PM #10: |
It was designed to slow down typists because otherwise the old mechanical typewriters would jam.
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CommonJoe 06/27/20 5:19:09 PM #11: |
DarthAragorn posted...
How old are you that you're just now learning how to type what the fuck --- Neoliberals have a compromise fetish and need to go **** themselves. There are no moderate solutions. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cmiller4642 06/27/20 5:19:32 PM #12: |
Fuck this topic
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NightRender 06/27/20 5:23:02 PM #13: |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Sweaterdresses is my favorite porn And here I've been just searching for starwars --- Dedicated to D - 4/15/05 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 06/27/20 5:29:24 PM #14: |
Sariana21 posted...
It was designed to slow down typists because otherwise the old mechanical typewriters would jam.https://repository.kulib.kyoto-u.ac. jp/dspace/bitstream/2433/139379/1/42_161.pdf that's a bullshit myth. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 06/27/20 5:30:51 PM #15: |
DarthAragorn posted...
How old are you that you're just now learning how to type what the fucklmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 06/27/20 5:34:29 PM #16: |
Yes, the rest of society should relearn how to type, not using the same format that's existed since typewriters.
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Slaya4 06/27/20 6:30:34 PM #18: |
cmiller4642 posted...
Fuck this topic The QWERTY is GARBAGE MabusIncarnate posted... Yes, the rest of society should relearn how to type, not using the same format that's existed since typewriters. By your logic we may as well not advance with cellphones and computers. We also may as well keep using the same electrical grid since it's worked forever. I can keep going with how bad your logic is if you would like --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 06/27/20 7:14:43 PM #19: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
Yes, the rest of society should relearn how to type, not using the same format that's existed since typewriters.yes. that is exactly true. you're being sarcastic but qwerty is objectively terrible and it was made for typewriters. --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 06/27/20 7:17:03 PM #20: |
Slaya4 posted...
By your logic we may as well not advance with cellphones and computers. We also may as well keep using the same electrical grid since it's worked forever. I can keep going with how bad your logic is if you would likeWeird coming from someone who claims to have just learned how to type and is suddenly an expert on it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 06/27/20 7:17:49 PM #21: |
Fossil posted...
Weird coming from someone who claims to have just learned how to type and is suddenly an expert on it.seems to be more of an expert than you are lol --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilliamPorygon 06/27/20 7:18:19 PM #22: |
I'd say just print the QWERTY format in the upper left of keys much like how the symbols on number keys are now and let people switch to it in system settings if they want to. But let's be honest, who the fuck is going to figure out how to go into system settings to change keyboard layouts.
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Choco 06/27/20 7:19:52 PM #23: |
WilliamPorygon posted...
I'd say just print the QWERTY format in the upper left of keys much like how the symbols on number keys are now and let people switch to it in system settings if they want to. But let's be honest, who the fuck is going to figure out how to go into system settings to change keyboard layouts.the physical layout is already pretty bad, changing settings won't fix that. --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilliamPorygon 06/27/20 7:24:03 PM #24: |
Choco posted...
the physical layout is already pretty bad, changing settings won't fix that.I mean, having Dvorak or some other layout as default and allowing people to switch back to QWERTY if they prefer it because they're used to it or whatever. I agree QWERTY isn't particularly great, but it's what I've used for 30+ years and trying to learn a new layout now would be a huge headache and actually slow me down for a long time before I'd see any potential benefit. --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzurexNightmare 06/27/20 7:26:14 PM #25: |
No wonder I love Qwerty. I'm a lefty.
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MabusIncarnate 06/27/20 7:30:55 PM #26: |
Why stop there? I don't like a tree being called a tree so i'm going to call a tree a potato from now on. Potatoes are now cars. Cars are now peanuts.
I'm gonna go drive my peanut to get some car chips. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 06/27/20 7:35:07 PM #27: |
WilliamPorygon posted...
I'd say just print the QWERTY format in the upper left of keys much like how the symbols on number keys are now and let people switch to it in system settings if they want to. But let's be honest, who the fuck is going to figure out how to go into system settings to change keyboard layouts. That's why I decided to suck it up since I fall in that last sentence of your post. I looked up some keyboard layouts on github, but I'm too lazy to download and reconfigure. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 06/28/20 11:57:54 PM #28: |
Sariana21 posted...
It was designed to slow down typists because otherwise the old mechanical typewriters would jam. --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 06/29/20 6:37:16 AM #29: |
indica posted...
Sariana21 posted...how dare you guys attack our beautiful tradition. @MabusIncarnate will have none of that and definitely prove you wrong --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamer167 06/29/20 6:43:06 AM #30: |
Uhh... how about u git gud like everyone else you privileged righty.
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Vyrulisse 06/29/20 6:43:50 AM #31: |
Oh look another Righty trying to take one of the few things Lefty's have in this world
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BigSwitchEnergy 06/29/20 6:46:12 AM #32: |
QWERTY layout is great and very purposefully designed, you'll get used to it. Been typing since Grade 2 or so and I'm really fast at it. Don't hate it just because you're new to it
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Choco 06/29/20 6:53:54 AM #33: |
BigSwitchEnergy posted...
QWERTY layout is great and very purposefully designedlol --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Choco is dead. Feel free to join him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 06/29/20 12:53:58 PM #34: |
I ended up diving deep into this issue. Maybe it's the engineer in me that's coming out, but now I find myself constantly trying to make things more efficient with the least amount of effort. Incase others are actually interested in the subject here's a heatmap of different layouts
https://www.patrick-wied.at/projects/heatmap-keyboard/ DVORAK is the next best thing that people praise. It looks too foreign to me and it looks too right hand heavy. Colemak looks to be ok. Not too foreign. I don't like the over utilizing my left pinky and moving my hand across the to the H key. Workman is the one I'm leaning heavily to, but it's too new and not easily supported I don't think. HALMARK is by far my favorite https://youtu.be/pZ40gmfDFfQ (5:30). It was made by some dude with AI. The layout looks pretty efficient, but I would like to see a heatmap for it, but it's just too new. BigSwitchEnergy posted... QWERTY layout is great and very purposefully designed, you'll get used to it. Been typing since Grade 2 or so and I'm really fast at it. Don't hate it just because you're new to it I don't hate it because I'm new at it. If you step back and look at the board it's really not that efficient and under utilizes human potential/performance. --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 06/29/20 12:56:23 PM #35: |
My biggest issue is that I never use the right shift key.
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Guide 06/29/20 1:00:10 PM #36: |
You could just try getting better. Plenty of us here have hit ~700 cpm with no formal training.
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LightHawKnight 06/29/20 1:00:59 PM #37: |
Slaya4 posted...
I don't hate it because I'm new at it. If you step back and look at the board it's really not that efficient and under utilizes human potential/performance. How do you know that if your are new at it? QWERTY came about after testing, what evidence do you have? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SiO4 06/29/20 1:03:27 PM #38: |
There is a reason of the QWERTY layout.
And has to do with the hammers of typewriters. They would intertwine and lock up if you printed wrong. 90's kids wouldn't get it. But ya, that is the reason. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 06/29/20 1:07:15 PM #39: |
SiO4 posted...
There is a reason of the QWERTY layout. ^Myth. The reason qwerty was used was cause beta testers preferred it. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 06/29/20 1:22:16 PM #40: |
Copy_X_Mk_ll posted...
Its left-hand heavy so you can type in the name of the porn youre looking for without needing to use your rightThats definitely why my old electric typewriter had a qwerty layout. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slaya4 06/29/20 1:43:47 PM #41: |
Jabodie posted...
My biggest issue is that I never use the right shift key. As I've learned how to type properly I've been using the right shift key, but before yeah I never used it. It was mostly a waste of space. The CAPS lock is also in a terrible position. I have a key board to where I can switch CAPS lock and the left control key and it's been significantly better. LightHawKnight posted... How do you know that if your are new at it? QWERTY came about after testing, what evidence do you have? Why do I have to be "good" at something in order to have an opinion on it. I type at ~70 wpm now. When can I start having an opinion on something? Why is a significant amount of research not "good enough?" Just look at the heatmap. How can anyone look at that and say, "yeah, it's efficient." Christopher Sholes himself keep improving the QWERTY layout and before he died had a layout completely different than QWERTY. If the inventor wasn't satisfied with his own product that carries more weight than somebody who blindly follows it. The only reason why we are stuck with it is because manufacturers provided to the masses the fastest not because it's the end all be all. It was simply, "good enough," but in modern society good enough isn't good enough. QWERTY served its purpose but it time to move onto something better and healthier. Guide posted... --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 06/29/20 9:15:41 PM #42: |
LightHawKnight posted...
^Myth. The reason qwerty was used was cause beta testers preferred it.Source? --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fossil 06/29/20 9:33:12 PM #43: |
A few weeks ago
Slaya4 posted... In less than a month Slaya4 posted... I type at ~70 wpm now. lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 06/29/20 9:36:28 PM #44: |
Slaya4 posted...
Why do I have to be "good" at something in order to have an opinion on it. I type at ~70 wpm now. When can I start having an opinion on something? Why is a significant amount of research not "good enough?" Pointless to judge something if you just learned it. indica posted... Source? Google qwerty myth. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 06/30/20 1:47:10 AM #45: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Pointless to judge something if you just learned it.Interesting. Here's a good link for those who don't feel like googling: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard-49863249/ --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TreyFlowers 06/30/20 1:50:03 AM #46: |
Learn dvorak then
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DarthWendy 06/30/20 8:55:07 AM #48: |
AZERTY master race here.
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Slaya4 06/30/20 12:05:56 PM #49: |
Fossil posted...
A few weeks ago https://www.keybr.com/profile/649f4wk LightHawKnight posted... Pointless to judge something if you just learned it. I'm sorry if you tie your personality to a keyboard layout, but QWERTY layout is garbage. I'm willing to guarantee that if Apple switched to colemak or any other alternative people will be swarming to it, and all of a sudden, say how bad QWERTY is. DarthWendy posted... AZERTY master race here. French? --- Am I going too hard? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthWendy 06/30/20 12:06:26 PM #50: |
Yep.
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