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MachineJaipur 06/30/20 12:26:28 PM #1: |
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SocksForWoksMAX 06/30/20 12:32:03 PM #3: |
Its basically capitalism vs oppression.
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solosnake 06/30/20 12:33:54 PM #4: |
communism and socialism are products of capitalism
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MachineJaipur 06/30/20 12:34:16 PM #5: |
SocksForWoksMAX posted...
Its basically capitalism vs oppression.Not to be that guy but one can argue that capitalism oppresses those at the bottom Just usually without massacres ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IMNOTRAGED 06/30/20 12:35:20 PM #6: |
MachineJaipur posted...
Just usually without massacres There are definitely massacres. They just get outsourced --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 06/30/20 12:39:04 PM #7: |
Socialism > Communism = Capitalism
The way communism has been done should work in theory, but once everything is seized, the ones in power dont want to redistribute it. Communism falls victim to the same greedy tendencies that capitalism does Social anarchism is a good way forward. As long as a state exists, the potential for corruption in any system is too high --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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coh 06/30/20 12:39:56 PM #8: |
Socialism is the stepping stone to communism
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MachineJaipur 06/30/20 12:40:38 PM #9: |
IMNOTRAGED posted...
There are definitely massacres. They just get outsourcedWell without state sponsored massacres ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 06/30/20 12:41:17 PM #10: |
coh posted...
Socialism is the stepping stone to communism They're pretty distinct systems --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rebel_Patriot 06/30/20 12:42:18 PM #11: |
MachineJaipur posted...
Not to be that guy but one can argue that capitalism oppresses those at the bottomCapitalism is the only way to escape the bottom. Before capitalism, practically everyone died in the same social /economical class they were born into. Being given free stuff doesnt pull you off the bottom, it makes you content with being on the bottom. --- No Trump, No Peace Know Trump, Know Peace ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 06/30/20 12:42:29 PM #12: |
MarqueeSeries posted...
The way communism has been doneCommunism hasnt ever been done. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Banana_Cyanide 06/30/20 12:42:44 PM #13: |
Repeat after me:
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MarqueeSeries 06/30/20 12:49:53 PM #15: |
MrToothHasYou posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...The way communism has been doneCommunism hasnt ever been done. Fundamentally I agree with you. True Communism is when we have no more use for the ideas of class because everyone has what they need. That hasn't been done because that's the ultimate end goal for any civilization. In that regard, communism is the ideal system The "communist states" that we've seen were failed attempts at getting us there because some dickheads wouldn't relinquish power once they had it --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 06/30/20 12:49:55 PM #16: |
Every attempt at "communism" by governments has been a mix of socialism and communism. With post-Mao China, you could even say it's a mix of socialism and capitalism.
If you consider anarcho-communism to be the only "true" form of communism, obviously that has never been attempted at a governmental level. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SocksForWoksMAX 06/30/20 12:51:46 PM #17: |
MachineJaipur posted...
Not to be that guy but one can argue that capitalism oppresses those at the bottom Difference is, under capitalism you are free to change your situation. --- stop the riots / destroy communism ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 06/30/20 1:28:40 PM #18: |
MarqueeSeries posted...
The "communist states" that we've seen were failed attempts at getting us there because some dickheads wouldn't relinquish power once they had itTo be fair, they cant exactly dissolve the state without an international revolution having been successful. Stateless/anarchist communism will never survive while capitalist states still exist. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 06/30/20 1:30:45 PM #19: |
Capitalism can't survive if the bottom of the economic pile is left to rot, and socialism can't survive without a robust market economy to feed it.
Communism, however, will never work without an underpinning of pure tyranny, and even then only for about seventy years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MachineJaipur 06/30/20 1:31:45 PM #20: |
Could an independently created AI overlord enforce a communist society exactly as it was intended to work?
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Questionmarktarius 06/30/20 1:32:19 PM #21: |
MachineJaipur posted...
Could an independently created AI overlord enforce a communist society exactly as it was intended to work?Probably, but it wouldn't be very pleasant. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 06/30/20 1:37:39 PM #22: |
Pure of any of systems is equally terrible.
Capitalism is ultimately pure greed. Socialism expects people to just do things out of the goodness of their heart. Communism leads to rampant corruption Capitalism with a strong government is the best current option. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarqueeSeries 06/30/20 1:57:44 PM #23: |
MrToothHasYou posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...The "communist states" that we've seen were failed attempts at getting us there because some dickheads wouldn't relinquish power once they had itTo be fair, they cant exactly dissolve the state without an international revolution having been successful. Stateless/anarchist communism will never survive while capitalist states still exist. Now that I agree with. Capitalist states will do all they can to squash any sort of anarchist revolution as it pops up. It's a miracle that places like Catalonia and Rojava have managed to exist as long as they have --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragon239 06/30/20 1:59:48 PM #24: |
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TheMikh 06/30/20 2:01:27 PM #25: |
depends on the kind of capitalism, the kind of socialism, the kind of communism
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MachineJaipur 06/30/20 3:58:41 PM #26: |
Crash posted...
LMAO @ edgelords who vote anything other than the first option.@Crash CE is full of edgelords then because less than half of CE has voted for the first option ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 07/01/20 3:55:07 PM #27: |
Real Communism > Real Socialism > Capitalism > Fake Socialism > Fake Communism
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averagejoel 07/01/20 11:37:55 PM #28: |
SocksForWoksMAX posted...
Difference is, under capitalism you are free to change your situation."you" might be, but "everyone" is not --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 07/01/20 11:40:13 PM #29: |
the correct answer is heavily controlled capitalism, essentially socialism lite. every time we swing back towards this free market bullshit things break down.
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MedeaLysistrata 07/01/20 11:47:02 PM #30: |
Would you like the 20k a year life or the 80k a year life? You will work the same amount either way.
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Doe 07/01/20 11:48:30 PM #31: |
Capitalism: Individuals own most of the means of production and have the power to take most of the profits, lots of class inequality
Socialism: The state has taken control of the means of production, seeks to remove inequality Communism: The state no longer exists, socio-economic classes no longer exist (theoretical) --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 07/01/20 11:49:31 PM #32: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
Would you like the 20k a year life or the 80k a year life? You will work the same amount either way.That 60k you're taking from the third world lol --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 07/01/20 11:59:23 PM #33: |
Doe posted...
That 60k you're taking from the third world lolThis is a McDonalds, sir. We only use AAA grade Alberta beef. I don't know if any of our products come from the third world but I can ask my manager. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 07/02/20 12:00:40 AM #34: |
monkmith posted...
the correct answer is heavily controlled capitalism, essentially socialism lite. every time we swing back towards this free market bullshit things break down.This seems about right. Sadly we have a lot of pearl clutchers (who vote) who unironically believe Dragon239 posted... Socialism is when the government does stuff --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 07/02/20 12:09:28 AM #35: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
This is a McDonalds, sir. We only use AAA grade Alberta beef. I don't know if any of our products come from the third world but I can ask my manager.All those McDonald's workers of America with 80k wages, yep. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 07/02/20 12:16:13 AM #36: |
Doe posted...
All those McDonald's workers of America with 80k wages, yep.Yeah... I mean I guess the managers can make that. Anyway I already posted in the other political economic paradigm topic with rehashes from this topic and now feel silly. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VTBM 07/02/20 12:22:08 AM #37: |
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ThisGuyAreSick 07/02/20 12:36:03 AM #39: |
Capiosocialism > Early stage capitalism > Socialism > Late stage capitalism > Communism
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IShall_Run_Amok 07/02/20 12:42:38 AM #40: |
Communism has proven to be the best way to combat capitalism. Socialism doesn't work as well, but is still down with the general idea. Capitalism is the thing that needs killin'.
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brokenfingers 07/02/20 12:00:19 PM #41: |
MarqueeSeries posted...
The way communism has been done should work in theory,No. Uh-uh. Enforced communism will never work on any scale. Know why communes often work? Because those people choose to abide. The second people are born into something they didn't choose and can't escape, the seeds of revolution are sown. --- First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire. -Roland Deschain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/02/20 1:19:15 PM #42: |
brokenfingers posted...
Enforced communism will never work on any scale.This. Of course, enforced capitalism isn't doing much better. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 07/02/20 1:34:56 PM #43: |
capitalism is the most inhumane on a basic level
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Questionmarktarius 07/02/20 1:37:39 PM #44: |
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capitalism is the most inhumane on a basic levelCapitalism does not forbid altruism. It just neglects to mandate it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 07/02/20 2:04:05 PM #45: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Capitalism does not forbid altruism. It just neglects to mandate it.Amazing how when you neglect something in your policy making while you subject your people to a system that does not reward it, it doesn't happen. --- I refuse to eat until I am hungry. Well, maybe just a little. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/02/20 2:05:44 PM #46: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Amazing how when you neglect something in your policy making while you subject your people to a system that does not reward it, it doesn't happen.Ah, but the neat thing about capitalist nations, is that you're free to leave for one of those socialist utopias. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 07/02/20 2:10:55 PM #47: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Ah, but the neat thing about capitalist nations, is that you're free to leave for one of those socialist utopias.Or you can just overthrow your government and feed some hungry guillotines. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. --- I refuse to eat until I am hungry. Well, maybe just a little. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/02/20 2:13:26 PM #48: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Or you can just overthrow your government and feed some hungry guillotines. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.Do you want a Napoleon? - because that's how you get a Napoleon. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bolle_Henk_ 07/02/20 2:15:05 PM #49: |
The best option is capitalism with a focus on decreasing wealth/income inequality.
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IShall_Run_Amok 07/02/20 2:15:30 PM #50: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Do you want a Napoleon? - because that's how you get a Napoleon. Sign me the fuck up for some communism yo. do I get the turtle too? --- I refuse to eat until I am hungry. Well, maybe just a little. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/02/20 2:17:15 PM #51: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
well shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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