Current Events > Reparations Billboard put up off the bridges of NYC

(+) Yeah! (+)

SiO4 posted...

Well, you see what happened to Colin Kaepernick.
I am not a huge Football fan, but damn was he not out in front of all this shit.

That's true. But if every single NFL player stood in solidarity with him. The NFL wouldn't have been able to punish him. The most important part and factor in a social justice movement is unity

---

Wow this topic sure brought out some good posters

---

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

That's true. But if every single NFL player stood in solidarity with him. The NFL wouldn't have been able to punish him. The most important part and factor in a social justice movement is unity

That, and the same reverence for the First Amendment the some seem to extend exclusively to the 2nd.
---

SiO4 posted...

That, and the same reverence for the First Amendment the some seem to extend exclusively to the 2nd.

I dont get it. What does the First Amendment have to do with the NFL?

If you just mean censorship in general, as in within both the private and public domain, it looks like its here to stay.

---

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

The end goal is a full and complete freedom. We need land ownership, home ownership, business ownership and an economic ecosystem in the places that we're living in as well as real political freedom. As of now even in black majority neighborhoods are still dominated politically and economically by non black people due to economic starvation and the history of oppression

Ultimately I believe Black Americans need to work towards independence Nationhood and a Nation on a new foundation of their own to be truly free from this government's white supremacist systems. Reparations is just one piece of the puzzle

So you want to... secede?

Also join the line of people that don't have a full and complete freedom.

thronedfire2 posted...

Wow this topic sure brought out some good posters

Don't be afraid to name and shame. Otherwise its a useless post.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

I dont get it. What does the First Amendment have to do with the NFL?

If you just mean censorship in general, as in within both the private and public domain, it looks like its here to stay.

The Freedom of Speech and expression seems like a very natural right to me.
IMO, taking a knee during the national anthem...which doesn't even need to be played, is more sacred then pulling a gun on someone.
---

MachineJaipur posted...

So you want to... secede?

Also join the line of people that don't have a full and complete freedom.

More like an autonomous zone or territory of our own. This government should be responsible for helping us get established. All would be free to enter but it would be a Black majority population and under our own self leadership

Then once it is stable and independent we could potentially work as allies in the future.

The only way you can have real freedom is if you're able to own the land you live on and if you're able to govern for yourself.

This should be the goal we should be working towards over the next years and generations. I think with the present social construct today there may always be anti black oppression so independence is the only real long term goal I see for this problem. The issues of police brutality racism etc. Today are the exact same issues that we've been struggling through for the last 60-70 years, back when even MLK was alive. Might as well go in a new direction

And I believe it's possible because 150 years ago, in 1870 slavery had just ended and society looked very different compared to what we see now. If the effort was put in and we came to a common ground to work towards this goal honestly it definitely could be done

---

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

More like an autonomous zone or territory of our own. This government should be responsible for helping us get established. All would be free to enter but it would be a Black majority population and under our own self leadership

So you want to effectively segregate because even if it was legal, you'd have bad faith actors that restrict non-blacks or harass them for "being in our space"

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Then once it is stable and independent we could potentially work as allies in the future.

The only way you can have real freedom is if you're able to own the land you live on and if you're able to govern for yourself.

So you want to be separate but equal? Have two 'nations' working together but separate from each other?

Also how do you go about providing this zone or space? I'm sure there are majority black neighborhoods that could serve as a starting point, but America is either majority white or mixed. So you'd have to either start in a neighborhood that might not have a lot of economic upward movement or you get stuck somewhere in the middle of Montana with little to no natural resources and you'd be back at square one, except even without homes or anything.

MachineJaipur posted...

So you want to be separate but equal? Have two 'nations' working together but separate from each other?

We're already separate now in most our neighborhoods. Most Black people wanted integration and true equality but Mainstream society did not. We're not treated as equals in any part of society there's two separate rulebooks we're judged by especially the justice system. Even when it came to gentrification the mainstream society would laugh and make mockery. They wanted domination not integration. So that's why I think the true answer is Separation. We need our own land, schools, businesses and justice system of our own so we can ensure ourselves true freedom. That's the end goal we should work for

---

MachineJaipur posted...

Also how do you go about providing this zone or space? I'm sure there are majority black neighborhoods that could serve as a starting point, but America is either majority white or mixed. So you'd have to either start in a neighborhood that might not have a lot of economic upward movement or you get stuck somewhere in the middle of Montana with little to no natural resources and you'd be back at square one, except even without homes or anything.

It can start gradually with the Black majority neighborhoods. Give increased control over school curriculums, the justice system etc. To the people of those neighborhoods.

Every individual should be able to decide what they want to do. Those that rather stay with the mainstream should be free to do that

---

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

Give increased control over school curriculums, the justice system etc. To the people of those neighborhoods.

You can do that though by becoming involved with local politics.

but most POCs aren't, for *insert reason here*

I cant believe what Im reading here.

TC wants segregated land.

---

MachineJaipur posted...

You can do that though by becoming involved with local politics.

but most POCs aren't, for *insert reason here*

It's happening right now that's what this movement is about

Right now Black people are making their criteria known and demanding that politicians stick to their agenda. Or else they're not voting for them

---

did you know the american census shows more hispanic people than african american

---

The Trent posted...

did you know the american census shows more hispanic people than african american

Because Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Ecuadorian, Columbian, Dominican, Venezuelan, Cuban, Peruvian and on and on, are considered Hispanic.

---

Prismsblade posted...

Also in regards reparations and lottery winnings you can edit the latter to whatever the reparation pay will be and the end result is the same.

Uh, no. What do you think happens with the extreme winnings of lotteries? This is a well documented thing.

---

MachineJaipur posted...

Don't be afraid to name and shame. Otherwise its a useless post.

Well winkles is already on his way to a ban

---