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why do we need giant campuses and administrative bloat again

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Online classes are dog shit man.

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We didn't need administrative bloat to begin with but,

Squall28 posted...

Online classes are dog shit man.

Some students do better in person. Some courses are better in person. Some teachers are better in person. Both should be available wherever possible.

Online education is mostly a joke

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Online classes are typically more work in my experience.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

why do we need giant campuses and administrative bloat again

For a lot of universities (R1 universities), the primary purpose is really research, not teaching. The university is there to sustain research labs.

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The only time I prefer online is for math courses (so I can cheat).

Online classes are more work and less efficient, for me at least.

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RadiantAdolin posted...

Some students do better in person. Some courses are better in person. Some teachers are better in person. Both should be available wherever possible.

Maybe those in person things need to adjust to the times instead of dragging everything else down with them.

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Do college campuses need to be as big as they are for research to be done?

And if so, would the colleges be able to afford to sustain themselves if all those students weren't paying tuition?

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Bestoffuture posted...

Online classes are more work and less efficient, for me at least.

Absolutely. These mother fuckers don't do jack shit. They post material from 3 years ago and most quizes grade themselves. If you have a valid question all you usually get is "watch the videos" (which don't answer shit) or "google it" (which also doesn't answer specific questions). I'm thinking about becoming an online College Professor. I think that's a pretty care free career and i've seen their salaries, not too shabby.

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Online classes are an even bigger scan than the classes themselves.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Do college campuses need to be as big as they are for research to be done?

In terms of lab facilities? Yes, even bigger given the increasing population of scientists.

Damn_Underscore posted...

And if so, would the colleges be able to afford to sustain themselves if all those students weren't paying tuition?

Probably only if grant funding were far, far more available, which is not going go happen any time in the future.

Research institutions that operate like that typically are contingent on continued grant funding from the PI, as far as I understand it.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Do college campuses need to be as big as they are for research to be done?

And if so, would the colleges be able to afford to sustain themselves if all those students weren't paying tuition?

https://youtu.be/YytF2v7Vvw0

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COVxy posted...

In terms of lab facilities? Yes, even bigger given the increasing population of scientists.

Probably only if grant funding were far, far more available, which is not going go happen any time in the future.

Research institutions that operate like that typically are contingent on continued grant funding from the PI, as far as I understand it.

This seems like an inherently corrupt system.

What happens if people can't afford college anymore and just stop going?

But also, do colleges cost this much to exist in other countries? Or is this just a US thing?

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Squall28 posted...

Online classes are dog shit man.

Yep, and in exchange for not attending lecture they give you some shitty material and double the workload. It's bullshit.
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Classes can function online just fine, but online classes are garbage for most subjects. Just because we technologically can doesn't mean they all should transition to that.

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I think there's value to be had in living on campus.
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Antifar posted...

I think there's value to be had in living on campus.

Or just physically being in an academic environment.

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Antifar posted...

I think there's value to be had in living on campus.

Not fucking 7k for room and board and like 1.5k+ for a meal plan per semester value. And that's what I got charged for an instate student. The 3 years I lived on campus cost me 60k in loans and shit before tuition factored in.

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Probably because when Harvard was founded in 1636, American internet connectivity was only slightly worse than it is today.

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What stopped you from going to university of Phoenix before covid?

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Makeveli_lives posted...

https://youtu.be/YytF2v7Vvw0

This video says administrative bloat is bad and also that endowments are very suspicious. The main conclusion is that colleges are businesses but these things are the strongest evidence of that.

Just from a few searches it seems that average-sized state universities have endowments in the $100 millions and large state universities have endowments in the billions. The big private schools have a lot more than that as mentioned in the video.

Also this video sucks for hating on Epcot

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I've been an administrator at 4 colleges. With that being said, you need both kinds of colleges, online and physical. Each has niches that the other cannot fill.

One of the colleges where I worked was a hybrid which had the best of both worlds. But even it had its problems.

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I Like Toast posted...

What stopped you from going to university of Phoenix before covid?

You're aware that U of Phoenix is a worthless diploma mill right? Or is that the joke?

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