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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 12:53:01 AM
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Or, on the same note, people who are proud of where they're from. I don't know what the fuck you're so proud of. You didn't do anything, you were just born.

It just sounds really insecure to me. What you're really saying is you aren't ashamed to be the race you are or where you're from. Which, obviously, you shouldn't be, it's equally as stupid to be ashamed of something you had zero control over.

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RetsuZaiZen
07/12/20 12:53:53 AM
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Do you understand pride though?

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 12:55:15 AM
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God damn it

*their*

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RavingShark
07/12/20 12:55:15 AM
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their*
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RavingShark
07/12/20 12:55:47 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
God damn it

*their*
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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 12:56:48 AM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
Do you understand pride though?


I understand taking pride in actual accomplishments you've made happen

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cuttin_in_farm
07/12/20 12:56:57 AM
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RavingShark posted...
son of a bitch beat me to it

Not technically...

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/12/20 12:57:43 AM
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Same. The whole pride thing is so stupid when it's not something you've actually done, just something you are.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 1:02:59 AM
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I whole hearted agree and always seen it that way. I was born here and the color I am by chance and nothing else. Thankfully my parents didn't have me to be a specific race either. It would be kind of weird knowing they would only love me if my skin was the same color as theirs. Which I'm a mutt, so it's not the same color as either of them.

The country thing, I never really even got a shot at because all I ever seen was the worst people being super crazy about America. Rarely anybody Id ever respect. There was no chance in hell I was being akin to the garbage I seen.

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Flockaveli
07/12/20 1:05:29 AM
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White man keeps telling me to feel bad for being Mexican, that I'm a rapist and a drug dealer, I'm inferior. I say fuck him.

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MT_TRAEH
07/12/20 1:05:57 AM
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unfortunately some society was built on those beliefs, claiming that their race is superior and has the right to enslave others, those people's children were raised that way and those children's children

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Kaiganeer
07/12/20 1:07:26 AM
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Flockaveli posted...
White man keeps telling me to feel bad for being Mexican, that I'm a rapist and a drug dealer, I'm inferior. I say fuck him.
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Wii_Shaker
07/12/20 1:09:59 AM
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I'm Native American and I have pride for my race only because the white man has actively tried to snuff out indigenous people for generations. Particularly in the US.

That pride doesn't mean that I think my race is better than yours, it just means that I have ties to my culture and I also share the hardships that the people have endured.

I have friends who have Chicano or Latino pride. I also have friends who have Irish and Scottish pride.

Having pride for your culture does not equal hate.

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Pseudomenon
07/12/20 1:10:10 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
What you're really saying is you aren't ashamed to be the race you are or where you're from. Which, obviously, you shouldn't be
"obviously"

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BloodMoon7
07/12/20 1:10:51 AM
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I don't feel as strongly about it but I do agree so it's never something I took pride in myself. I'm not saying I'm ashamed either, it's just there.

Though I don't have any accomplishments of my own either so... Yeah.

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cuttin_in_farm
07/12/20 1:12:27 AM
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Keep in mind. People proud of their race are typically not proud of ONLY their race.

Its that they are where they are despite of set backs their race may have caused.

I hope the TC isnt white in America.

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DeathDeathSong
07/12/20 1:13:28 AM
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wypipo dont understand why poc are proud to be their race? color me shocked

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WashYourHands
07/12/20 1:13:41 AM
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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 1:18:28 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Keep in mind. People proud of their race are typically not proud of ONLY their race.

Its that they are where they are despite of set backs their race may have caused.


Well, yeah. I understand why someone would be proud of where they are in life and if they overcame adversity to get there.

cuttin_in_farm posted...
I hope the TC isnt white in America.


Why would that matter?

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Elmer_Glue
07/12/20 1:19:19 AM
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Pride is a sin.
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Politics
07/12/20 1:19:56 AM
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I'm kinda proud to be half italian and a fourth irish

I just think those countries have a cool history and culture and I take pride in that

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 1:20:27 AM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Though I don't have any accomplishments of my own either so... Yeah.

As in, ones you can hold up a paper that says "I did this"? I don't either. And though I respect people who do earn those and think they deserve to flex it. I don't not respect myself for not targeting those achievements. I always just focused on how I treated others and how I could improve myself mentally to be even more helpful to myself and those close to me. Stuff like that can be enough imo. If you're not a problem to those around you and you make a steady effort to improve their lives when you can, I think you deserve to feel good about yourself. Even if that's just stuff like being there when they need someone to talk to when you preferred to do something else. Or letting others get their way because you wanted them to have their moment and could move out the way for them.

Summary:
If your goal is to make others feel good, you deserve to feel good too.

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UnfairRepresent
07/12/20 1:23:44 AM
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You remind me of my dad.

"i don't get why the gays need a pride parade. Why are you proud about being gay if it's not a choice!? HMMMMMMMMM!?"

The pride is that you won't be made to feel lesser or ashamed of who you are by bigots
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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 1:27:54 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
You remind me of my dad.

"i don't get why the gays need a pride parade. Why are you proud about being gay if it's not a choice!? HMMMMMMMMM!?"

The pride is that you won't be made to feel lesser or ashamed of who you are by bigots

Hating on Gay Pride is kicking someone when you've already pushed them down.

Nobody here has pushed down Americans for being Americans. But Americans have pushed down the gay community for a loooong ass time.

One is punching up and the other is punching down.

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Puglia77
07/12/20 1:28:55 AM
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I'm proud to be my minority race because it makes people like TC triggered and buttmad
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Stallion_Prime
07/12/20 1:28:56 AM
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DeathDeathSong posted...
wypipo dont understand why poc are proud to be their race? color me shocked

Im a latino and i dont understand it lol. Its dumb

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 1:30:40 AM
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Puglia77 posted...
I'm proud to be my minority race because it makes people like TC triggered and buttmad


No one's mad, it's just silly

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R1masher
07/12/20 1:31:23 AM
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Im proud to be Irish, my father was Irish, he was a good man and he served this country, dont care if you dont get it... I dont either

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 1:32:08 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Keep in mind. People proud of their race are typically not proud of ONLY their race.

Its that they are where they are despite of set backs their race may have caused.

I hope the TC isnt white in America.

That's a good point. I never felt set back by my race. So I don't have any reason to be prideful of overcoming stuff because of it. Sure some people in America hate Mexicans, but I never personally ran into them. I did run into many people racist against the black community tho. Maybe it was cause they talked behind my back about Mexicans and then just thought it was cool to be openly racist about the black community cause I wasn't black.

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UnfairRepresent
07/12/20 1:32:46 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...


Hating on Gay Pride is kicking someone when you've already pushed them down.

Nobody here has pushed down Americans for being Americans.


George Floyd would have disagree with you.

Unfortunately he's dead.
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Wii_Shaker
07/12/20 1:32:54 AM
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R1masher posted...
Im proud to be Irish, my father was Irish, he was a good man and he served this country, dont care if you dont get it... I dont either

We don't have to. It means something to you.

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Webbernet
07/12/20 1:34:17 AM
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Puglia77 posted...
I'm proud to be my minority race because it makes people like TC triggered and buttmad

He's suuuupperr buttmad. I'm mad proud of you.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 1:34:22 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...


Holy shit this is bad. How the fuck do people just use someone's death in a petty argument, Ill never know.

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R1masher
07/12/20 1:34:32 AM
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Oh, thanks

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cuttin_in_farm
07/12/20 1:54:31 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Why would that matter?

A white guy telling minorities its silly to be proud of their race is a bad look and ignorant as hell.

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Wii_Shaker
07/12/20 1:55:53 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
A white guy telling minorities its silly to be proud of their race is a bad look and ignorant as hell.
Completely agree.

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 2:03:13 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
A white guy telling minorities its silly to be proud of their race is a bad look and ignorant as hell.


Who said I'm talking about/to minorities specifically?

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Wii_Shaker
07/12/20 2:04:09 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Who said I'm talking about/to minorities specifically?
We can hear it in your tone.

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 2:05:33 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
We can hear it in your tone.


This is a text based conversation, any tone you're perceiving is of your own creation.

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 2:09:02 AM
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It's also a tad racist to say someone voicing common sense is a bad look because of the color of their skin.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 3:58:54 AM
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I definitely didn't read this as directed at minorities. I would of never co-signed it. I read it thinking of Americans that use it to try and flex superiority of some sort. They seem the most relevant atm by a long shot. Everyone else here is showing exactly how much they don't respect America even more lately. It's not a respectable place to be proud of. We still got some really good people, which makes that even more sad.

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Arcanine2009
07/12/20 4:09:00 AM
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People that are really into their culture, tend to be more prideful. I was never really into my parent's culture compared to my peers. Don't really have many friends the same ethnicity as me. The religion associated with my culture is part of the reason why

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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 4:10:03 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
People that are really into their culture, tend to be more prideful. I was never really into my parent's culture compared to my peers. Don't really have many friends the same ethnicity as me. The religion associated with my culture is part of the reason why

Do you feel content with all that?

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BettyWhite
07/12/20 4:17:30 AM
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The most prideful are those who were/are discriminated against for their race/culture.

Hence why the most prideful white Americans are the Italians and Irish. They're also the most segregated and thus those who maintain a larger cultural identity due to lack of integration into generalized American culture. Hence why Latino and African-American pride is so apparent.


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Eliza3
07/12/20 4:21:03 AM
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If youre part of a minority group that has historically been oppressed, mocked, shamed and looked down on by society for merely existing, then counteracting that bigotry by claiming you are actually proud of who you are is perfectly reasonable in fighting back against those hateful societal narratives.

When institutional racism is gone, well get to a point where racial pride isnt necessary anymore. Until then, theres your answer.

But TC isnt going to accept this explanation that a 10 yr old could understand because he isnt asking the question in good faith, and is in fact just trolling.

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LordFarquad1312
07/12/20 4:23:12 AM
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I 100% agree with tc.
I take pride in my accomplishments, and those of my peers.

I take 0 pride in things I had absolutely no control over.

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Solid Snake07
07/12/20 4:28:36 AM
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Eliza3 posted...
If youre part of a minority group that has historically been oppressed, mocked, shamed and looked down on by society for merely existing, then counteracting that bigotry by claiming you are actually proud of who you are is perfectly reasonable in fighting back against those hateful societal narratives.

When institutional racism is gone, well get to a point where racial pride isnt necessary anymore. Until then, theres your answer.

But TC isnt going to accept this explanation that a 10 yr old could understand because he isnt asking the question in good faith, and is in fact just trolling.


"Getting passed" racism is 100% tied to getting past this kind of simplistic caveman type of mentality. And you can't expect those guys to get past it while you're holding onto it

And once again, this isn't directed at minorities. But if you immediately took it that way you're pretty obviously part of the problem tbh.

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Eliza3
07/12/20 4:30:49 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
"Getting passed" racism is 100% tied to getting past this kind of simplistic caveman type of mentality. And you can't expect those guys to get past it while you're holding onto it

And once again, this isn't directed at minorities. But if you immediately took it that way you're pretty obviously part of the problem tbh.


Eliza3 posted...
But TC isnt going to accept this explanation that a 10 yr old could understand because he isnt asking the question in good faith, and is in fact just trolling.


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Arcanine2009
07/12/20 4:33:23 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Do you feel content with all that?
happy? I dunno. I don't care too much about having many close friends that are my ethnicity. I speak the language, but would like to be more fluent with writing and reading for sure. Maybe teach my kids when I get them. I only feel pride i I'm trying to defend myself against racism or when people want to learn about my culture. In a way, not being too close/attached to my culture has given me humility. Because having friends that are just like you culturally, do kind of make you more close minded and prejudiced to outsiders.


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Lost_All_Senses
07/12/20 4:49:14 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
happy? I dunno. I don't care too much about having many close friends that are my ethnicity. I speak the language, but would like to be more fluent with writing and reading for sure. Maybe teach my kids when I get them. I only feel pride i I'm trying to defend myself against racism or when people want to learn about my culture. In a way, not being too close/attached to my culture has given me humility. Because having friends that are just like you culturally, do kind of make you more close minded and prejudiced to outsiders.

I just meant "ok with it" more so than happy. But you covered it. Like I'm exactly the same. I have a Mexican side of the family with the generation above us all knowing spanish. And them bitches didn't even attempt to teach us spanish. I don't see how that's on me lol. I ended up getting into hip hop and black culture. And I never really stopped. Now Im interested in everyone's experience in America. I feel like splitting my focus on anything outside of America would just make me way more scatterbrained. Anyway, I've pretty much always been content with it. Like I said, my family dropped the ball with sharing their cultures, so that's on them. They also don't resent me for not being into it. That's enough for me to not think about it regularly.

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