Board 8 > King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) R1D20: Aang vs HOUOUIN KYOUMA (Mid)

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NFUN
07/20/20 10:41:03 PM
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Welcome to the King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) Simulated Character Battle Tournament!

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78797189

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

The Avatar, master of all four elements. His airbending skills are great, but he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe that Aang can save the world.

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Hououin Kyouma (Steins;Gate)
https://i.imgur.com/hByUWcg.jpg
In addition to his mind-blowingly advanced tech like Moad Snake, the Bit Particle Cannon and the Cyalume Saber, Hououin Kyouma can, in principle, send messages or even his consciousness back in time.

@Johnbobb

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NFUN
07/20/20 10:46:47 PM
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I don't even think we need to consider time travel for the purposes of this match. Okabe's early Future Gadgets can carry the match on their own. He has unparalleled scouting with his Bamboo Helicam, and he's functionally invisible when using the Ghost in the Ball. After finding and sneaking up on Aang, he can quickly and easily dispose of him with the powerful Cyalume Saber. Easy peasy

EDIT: AND HOW COULD I FORGET "Once again, I made something worthless, by Goemon"??? GG Aang, GG

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Shonen_Bat
07/20/20 11:13:25 PM
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https://gfycat.com/weirdflippantjay

it's probably not going to be as cut and dry as "Kyouma sneaks up and assassinates him"

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NFUN
07/20/20 11:18:20 PM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
https://gfycat.com/weirdflippantjay

it's probably not going to be as cut and dry as "Kyouma sneaks up and assassinates him"
This is future technology Aang cannot even begin to comprehend, let alone prepare for. Like, Aang could deal with Moad Snake, fine, but not Ghost in the Ball. And the Bit Particle Gun would make short work of the Avatar

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Shonen_Bat
07/20/20 11:20:01 PM
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I don't know what any of those things are

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NFUN
07/20/20 11:24:24 PM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
I don't know what any of those things are
That's because you're stuck in the past when the future is here

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Shonen_Bat
07/20/20 11:30:18 PM
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sorry man, I was stuck in a chunk of ice for a hundred years, you know how it is

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NFUN
07/20/20 11:40:39 PM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
sorry man, I was stuck in a chunk of ice for a hundred years, you know how it is
It's alright. If you know how the Internet works, this page should be illuminating
https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/Future_Gadget_Lab

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Shonen_Bat
07/20/20 11:46:21 PM
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most of those sound not very useful

except the time machine, but is this guy really going to be lugging around a time machine the size of a small house

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NFUN
07/20/20 11:48:02 PM
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those arguments were pure jokes, and I'm allowing him to not having access to his time machine, just the Phonewave and his time leap device

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Johnbobb
07/21/20 12:20:31 AM
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completely unfamiliar with steins:gate but here's aang

https://gfycat.com/idioticoldallensbigearedbat
https://gfycat.com/definitescaredfairyfly-avatar-the-last-airbender-tv-program

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5tarscream
07/21/20 4:38:04 AM
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Im gonna need to see a better argument than he has tech and can sneak up on the avatar. Like if the air moves Im pretty sure Aang can sense it. He also mastered all 4 elements meaning he could bury, drown, burn or simply suffocate an opponent. He is vulnerable and he can be beaten but I need more information on these gadgets and stuff and how they overcome mastery of the elements

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5tarscream
07/21/20 4:38:20 AM
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In the meantime Aang

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ZeeksFire
07/21/20 8:33:16 AM
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Aang
This is a mismatch of extreme proportions, I'm sorry, that tech is not going to be able to deal with things like tremorsense and the moad snake is something that will EASILY backfire to a massive degree if used, and this is not even touching the avatar state.
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hombad46
07/21/20 9:34:01 AM
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Aang

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NFUN
07/21/20 11:18:24 AM
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NFUN posted...
those arguments were pure jokes


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PrinceKaro
07/21/20 11:28:33 AM
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So we got a superhuman boy with massive elemental nukes vs a frail dweeb whose only ability is to send text messages back in time that half the time don't work as intended?

Aang

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Johnbobb
07/21/20 4:48:30 PM
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Aang

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NFUN
07/21/20 5:03:28 PM
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I'll summarize Hououin's arguments and explain why I didn't bother making real ones earlier:

There are a few ways to think about this (and I assumed people would naturally fall under one of this categories without prodding):
  • Hououin has both a time machine, his time leap machine, and his D-mails readily available to him. If he ever runs into trouble, he can change timelines and report back in to his prior self, rescuing himself while giving himself more information. He can find where Aang is camping, and go back in time arbitrarily far to set up traps or otherwise work to incapacitate Aang. Aang is strong, but this isn't a foe he's equipped to fight
  • Hououin does not have a time machine, but he has the leap machine and his D-mails. He's limited to traveling to the beginning of the match so he can't ambush Aang as soon as he arrives here, and he can only go to another area as fast as he can normally travel there, but he could still set up some kind of ambush and scout. Aang probably wouldn't be able to find Okabe's base easily (Appa was a much easier target, for example), so Hououin will be free to send D-mails at will and keep himself safe if he ever gets spotted. Aang won't kill him so Aang will temper his bending powers, and thus will be unlikely to destroy the cellphone in any initial confrontation. Hououin wins through trial and error
  • His D-mails can't save him forever and Hououin will fuck up before getting the drop on Aang
  • It doesn't matter because Hououin is fated to survive for at least eight more years (not relevant against Aang specifically because he's 100% go for nonviolent pacification)


Choose which category you fall under. I will say that I'm confident in this situation that D-mails will alter timelines ("no go N forest" or whatever would definitely get the job done). They aren't perfect, but he just needs to use them to "reroll" his situation to get to safety

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NFUN
07/21/20 5:04:32 PM
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I once spent hours arguing that Kevin McAllister would be able to beat 1 million Supermen given infinite preparation time, so naturally I'm going HOUOUIN KYOUMA

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