Current Events > Potheads of CE owe me an apology: Pot is addictive. Fact.

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HiddenRoar 08/12/20 12:28:56 AM #1:	https://getpocket.com/explore/item/america-s-invisible-pot-addicts?utm_source=pocket-newtab Evan [...] has a self-described *cannabis-use disorder*. If not necessarily because of legalization, but alongside legalization, such problems are becoming more common: The share of adults with one has doubled since the early aughts, as the share of cannabis users who consume it daily or near-daily has jumped nearly 50 percentall in the context of increasingly permissive cannabis legislation, attitudes, and lower risk perception, as the National Institutes of Health put it. Public-health experts worry about the increasingly potent options available, and the striking number of constant users. Cannabis is potentially a real public-health problem, said Mark A. R. Kleiman, a professor of public policy at New York University. It wasnt obvious to me 25 years ago, when 9 percent of self-reported cannabis users over the last month reported daily or near-daily use. I always was prepared to say, No, its not a very abusable drug. Nine percent of anybody will do something stupid. But that number is now [something like] 40 percent. They argue that state and local governments are setting up legal regimes without sufficient public-health protection, with some even warning that the country is replacing one form of reefer madness with another, careening from treating cannabis as if it were as dangerous as heroin to treating it as if it were as benign as kombucha. For *Keith Humphreys, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University*, the most compelling evidence of the deleterious effects comes from users themselves. In large national surveys, about one in 10 people who smoke it say they have a lot of problems. They say things like, I have trouble quitting. I think a lot about quitting and I cant do it. I smoked more than I intended to. I neglect responsibilities. There are plenty of people who have problems with it, in terms of things like concentration, short-term memory, and motivation, he said. People will say, Oh, thats just you fuddy-duddy doctors. Actually, no. Its millions of people who use the drug who say that it causes problems. Users or former users I spoke with described lost jobs, lost marriages, lost houses, lost money, lost time. Foreclosures and divorces. Weight gain and mental-health problems. And one other thing: the problem of convincing other people that what they were experiencing was real. A few mentioned jokes about Doritos, and comments implying that the real issue was that they were lazy stoners. Others mentioned the common belief that you can be psychologically addicted to pot, but not physically or really addicted. The condition remains misunderstood, discounted, and strangely invisible, even as legalization and white-marketization pitches ahead. [...] Academics and public-health officials, though, have raised the concern that cannabiss real risks have been overlooked or underplayedperhaps as part of a counter-reaction to federal prohibition, and perhaps because millions and millions of cannabis users have no problems controlling their use. Part of how legalization was sold was with this assumption that there was no harm, in reaction to the message that everyone has smoked marijuana was going to ruin their whole life, Humphreys told me. It was a point Kleiman agreed with. I do think that not legalization, but the legalization movement, does have a lot on its conscience now, he said. The mantra about how this is a harmless, natural, and non-addictive substanceits now known by everybody. And its a lie. Thousands of businesses, as well as local governments earning tax money off of sales, are now literally invested in that lie. The liquor companies are salivating, Matt Karnes of GreenWave Advisors told me. They cant wait to come in full force. He added that Big Pharma was targeting the medical market, with Wall Street, Silicon Valley, food businesses, and tobacco companies aiming at the recreational market. *Evan started off smoking* with his friends when they were playing sports or video games, lighting up to chill out after his nine-to-five as a paralegal at a law office. But that soon became couch-lock, and he lost interest in working out, going out, doing anything with his roommates. Then came a lack of motivation and the slow erosion of ambition, and law school moving further out of reach. He started smoking before work and after work.Eventually, he realized it was impossible to get through the day without it. I was smoking anytime I had to do anything boring, and it took a long time before I realized that I wasnt doing anything without getting stoned, he said. His first attempts to reduce his use went miserably, as the consequences on his health and his life piled up. He gained nearly 40 pounds, he said, when he stopped working out and cooking his own food at home. He recognized that he was just barely getting by at work, and was continually worried about getting fired. Worse, his friends were unsympathetic to the idea that he was struggling and needed help. [You have to] try to convince someone that something that is hurting you is hurting you, he said. *Lax regulatory standards and aggressive commercialization in some states have compounded some existing public-health risks, raised new ones, and failed to tamp down on others, experts argue*. In terms of compounding risks, many cite the availability of *hyper-potent marijuana products.* Were seeing these increases in the strength of cannabis, as we are also seeing an emergence of new types of products, such as edibles, tinctures, vape pens, sublingual sprays, and concentrates, *Ziva Cooper, an associate professor of clinical neurobiology in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center, told me. A lot of these concentrates can have up to 90 percent THC, she said, whereas the kind of flower you could get 30 years ago was far, far weaker. Scientists are not sure how such high-octane products affect peoples bodies, she said, but worry that they might have more potential for raising tolerance, introducing brain damage, and inculcating dependence.* As for new risks: In many stores, budtenders are providing medical advice with no licensing or training whatsoever. Im most scared of the advice to smoke marijuana during pregnancy for cramps, said Humphreys, arguing that sellers were providing recommendations with no scientific backing, good or bad, at all. Health experts also cited an uncomfortable truth about allowing a vice product to be widely available, loosely regulated, and fully commercialized: Heavy users will make up a huge share of sales, with businesses wanting them to buy more and spend more and use more, despite any health consequences. The reckless way that we are legalizing marijuana so far is mind-boggling from a public-health perspective, *Kevin Sabet, an Obama administration official* and a founder of the nonprofit Smart Approaches to Marijuana, told me. The issue now is that we have lobbyists, special interests, and people whose motivation is to make money that are writing all of these laws and taking control of the conversation. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943280487] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>https://getpocket.com/explore/item/america-s-invisible-pot-addicts?utm_source=pocket-newtab Evan [...] has a self-described cannabis-use disorder. If not necessarily because of legalization, but alongside legalization, such problems are becoming more common: The share of adults with one has doubled since the early aughts, as the share of cannabis users who consume it daily or near-daily has jumped nearly 50 percentall in the context of increasingly permissive cannabis legislation, attitudes, and lower risk perception, as the National Institutes of Health put it. Public-health experts worry about the increasingly potent options available, and the striking number of constant users. Cannabis is potentially a real public-health problem, said Mark A. R. Kleiman, a professor of public policy at New York University. It wasnt obvious to me 25 years ago, when 9 percent of self-reported cannabis users over the last month reported daily or near-daily use. I always was prepared to say, No, its not a very abusable drug. Nine percent of anybody will do something stupid. But that number is now [something like] 40 percent. They argue that state and local governments are setting up legal regimes without sufficient public-health protection, with some even warning that the country is replacing one form of reefer madness with another, careening from treating cannabis as if it were as dangerous as heroin to treating it as if it were as benign as kombucha. For Keith Humphreys, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University, the most compelling evidence of the deleterious effects comes from users themselves. In large national surveys, about one in 10 people who smoke it say they have a lot of problems. They say things like, I have trouble quitting. I think a lot about quitting and I cant do it. I smoked more than I intended to. I neglect responsibilities. There are plenty of people who have problems with it, in terms of things like concentration, short-term memory, and motivation, he said. People will say, Oh, thats just you fuddy-duddy doctors. Actually, no. Its millions of people who use the drug who say that it causes problems. Users or former users I spoke with described lost jobs, lost marriages, lost houses, lost money, lost time. Foreclosures and divorces. Weight gain and mental-health problems. And one other thing: the problem of convincing other people that what they were experiencing was real. A few mentioned jokes about Doritos, and comments implying that the real issue was that they were lazy stoners. Others mentioned the common belief that you can be psychologically addicted to pot, but not physically or really addicted. The condition remains misunderstood, discounted, and strangely invisible, even as legalization and white-marketization pitches ahead. [...] Academics and public-health officials, though, have raised the concern that cannabiss real risks have been overlooked or underplayedperhaps as part of a counter-reaction to federal prohibition, and perhaps because millions and millions of cannabis users have no problems controlling their use. Part of how legalization was sold was with this assumption that there was no harm, in reaction to the message that everyone has smoked marijuana was going to ruin their whole life, Humphreys told me. It was a point Kleiman agreed with. I do think that not legalization, but the legalization movement, does have a lot on its conscience now, he said. The mantra about how this is a harmless, natural, and non-addictive substanceits now known by everybody. And its a lie. Thousands of businesses, as well as local governments earning tax money off of sales, are now literally invested in that lie. The liquor companies are salivating, Matt Karnes of GreenWave Advisors told me. They cant wait to come in full force. He added that Big Pharma was targeting the medical market, with Wall Street, Silicon Valley, food businesses, and tobacco companies aiming at the recreational market. Evan started off smoking with his friends when they were playing sports or video games, lighting up to chill out after his nine-to-five as a paralegal at a law office. But that soon became couch-lock, and he lost interest in working out, going out, doing anything with his roommates. Then came a lack of motivation and the slow erosion of ambition, and law school moving further out of reach. He started smoking before work and after work.Eventually, he realized it was impossible to get through the day without it. I was smoking anytime I had to do anything boring, and it took a long time before I realized that I wasnt doing anything without getting stoned, he said. His first attempts to reduce his use went miserably, as the consequences on his health and his life piled up. He gained nearly 40 pounds, he said, when he stopped working out and cooking his own food at home. He recognized that he was just barely getting by at work, and was continually worried about getting fired. Worse, his friends were unsympathetic to the idea that he was struggling and needed help. [You have to] try to convince someone that something that is hurting you is hurting you, he said. Lax regulatory standards and aggressive commercialization in some states have compounded some existing public-health risks, raised new ones, and failed to tamp down on others, experts argue. In terms of compounding risks, many cite the availability of hyper-potent marijuana products. Were seeing these increases in the strength of cannabis, as we are also seeing an emergence of new types of products, such as edibles, tinctures, vape pens, sublingual sprays, and concentrates, Ziva Cooper, an associate professor of clinical neurobiology in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center, told me. A lot of these concentrates can have up to 90 percent THC, she said, whereas the kind of flower you could get 30 years ago was far, far weaker. Scientists are not sure how such high-octane products affect peoples bodies, she said, but worry that they might have more potential for raising tolerance, introducing brain damage, and inculcating dependence. As for new risks: In many stores, budtenders are providing medical advice with no licensing or training whatsoever. Im most scared of the advice to smoke marijuana during pregnancy for cramps, said Humphreys, arguing that sellers were providing recommendations with no scientific backing, good or bad, at all. Health experts also cited an uncomfortable truth about allowing a vice product to be widely available, loosely regulated, and fully commercialized: Heavy users will make up a huge share of sales, with businesses wanting them to buy more and spend more and use more, despite any health consequences. The reckless way that we are legalizing marijuana so far is mind-boggling from a public-health perspective, Kevin Sabet, an Obama administration official and a founder of the nonprofit Smart Approaches to Marijuana, told me. The issue now is that we have lobbyists, special interests, and people whose motivation is to make money that are writing all of these laws and taking control of the conversation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 08/12/20 12:29:34 AM #2:	*Perhaps most important might be reintroducing some reasonable skepticism about cannabis*, especially until scientists have a better sense of the health effects of high-potency products, used frequently. *Until then, listening to and believing the hundreds of thousands of users who argue marijuana is not always benign might be a good start.* Also, THC causes heart attacks. You're welcome. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943280506] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Perhaps most important might be reintroducing some reasonable skepticism about cannabis, especially until scientists have a better sense of the health effects of high-potency products, used frequently. Until then, listening to and believing the hundreds of thousands of users who argue marijuana is not always benign might be a good start. Also, THC causes heart attacks. You're welcome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 08/12/20 12:32:50 AM #3:	Yeah it's addictive. At least it was for me. Not terribly hard for me to quit, though. --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta (hungry ghost) <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:943280604] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's addictive. At least it was for me. Not terribly hard for me to quit, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BudDupree48 08/12/20 1:01:37 AM #4:	Lol --- BANG BANG STEELER GANG <cite>BudDupree48 posted [p:943281258] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 08/12/20 1:04:05 AM #5:	this reminds me of that one dude who said he would report people smoking weed in the parking lot <cite>Poop2 posted [p:943281311] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>this reminds me of that one dude who said he would report people smoking weed in the parking lot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 08/12/20 1:05:05 AM #6:	We have Public Health officials, doctors, and professors all saying that pot is bad. Science is not on your side. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943281328] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>We have Public Health officials, doctors, and professors all saying that pot is bad. Science is not on your side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 08/12/20 1:05:53 AM #7:	Not reading all of that horseshit, if you bring your weak shit game to the court you are gonna fall into the false "addiction" because your shit is weak. Toughen up, baby boy. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:943281346] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Not reading all of that horseshit, if you bring your weak shit game to the court you are gonna fall into the false "addiction" because your shit is weak. Toughen up, baby boy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FF_Redux 08/12/20 1:06:11 AM #8:	Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc. --- https://imgur.com/hRsG4 https://i.imgtc.com/zZQ38Hb.jpg https://imgur.com/Z4cir https://imgur.com/qEyGS https://imgur.com/37KDT <cite>FF_Redux posted [p:943281352] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 08/12/20 1:07:44 AM #10:	Tldr still gonna smoke --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:943281395] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Tldr still gonna smoke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzurexNightmare 08/12/20 1:10:42 AM #12:	HiddenRoar posted... We have Public Health officials, doctors, and professors all saying that pot is bad. Science is not on your side. Science is on your side. Legitimate science that is. This is political bullshit. --- Latest Game Completed 100% Resident Evil VII <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:943281450] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>We have Public Health officials, doctors, and professors all saying that pot is bad. Science is not on your side.</quote>Science is on your side. Legitimate science that is. This is political bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proofpyros 08/12/20 1:10:57 AM #13:	Weed isn't Just like erasers aren't But people got addicted to them <cite>Proofpyros posted [p:943281455] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Weed isn't Just like erasers aren't But people got addicted to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 08/12/20 1:23:30 AM #14:	FF_Redux posted... Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:943281702] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>FF_Redux posted... </cite> <quote>Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/12/20 1:24:45 AM #15:	woah!!! now that we know that it's addictive we should ban it like we do with alcohol and tobacco! <cite>Reis posted [p:943281718] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>woah!!! now that we know that it's addictive we should ban it like we do with alcohol and tobacco! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 08/12/20 1:25:36 AM #16:	Potheads cant handle the truth. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:943281731] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Potheads cant handle the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 08/12/20 1:28:26 AM #17:	Smackems posted... Tldr still gonna smoke Ivy League professors and Public Health officials (whom CE dubbed "Heroes" not too long ago for COVID) are saying Pot is bad, addictive, and legalization/it's push, in it's current form, is driven by greed/capitalism. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943281781] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Tldr still gonna smoke</quote> Ivy League professors and Public Health officials (whom CE dubbed "Heroes" not too long ago for COVID) are saying Pot is bad, addictive, and legalization/it's push, in it's current form, is driven by greed/capitalism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/12/20 1:29:11 AM #18:	wtf we hate capitalism now <cite>Reis posted [p:943281798] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>wtf we hate capitalism now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RieTakahash 08/12/20 1:29:36 AM #19:	I'm not gunna read all that because i'm too high <cite>RieTakahash posted [p:943281808] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>I'm not gunna read all that because i'm too high </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jon1012 08/12/20 1:29:43 AM #20:	Summary of article: pot is addictive for some but its not a huge challenge to quit --- We are Borg. <cite>jon1012 posted [p:943281814] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Summary of article: pot is addictive for some but its not a huge challenge to quit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 08/12/20 1:41:49 AM #21:	literally everything can be addictive ce is addictive --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:943282046] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>literally everything can be addictive ce is addictive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FF_Redux 08/12/20 1:43:30 AM #22:	Guerrilla Soldier posted... literally everything can be addictive ce is addictive Man I imagine how much more stuff I could have done if I hadnt been on CE every day for ocer a decade --- https://imgur.com/hRsG4 https://i.imgtc.com/zZQ38Hb.jpg https://imgur.com/Z4cir https://imgur.com/qEyGS https://imgur.com/37KDT <cite>FF_Redux posted [p:943282085] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Guerrilla Soldier posted... </cite> <quote>literally everything can be addictive ce is addictive</quote> Man I imagine how much more stuff I could have done if I hadnt been on CE every day for ocer a decade </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GodIsImaginary 08/12/20 1:43:35 AM #23:	Quitting weed wont make you live longer, but it will sure make life seem longer. <cite>GodIsImaginary posted [p:943282087] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Quitting weed wont make you live longer, but it will sure make life seem longer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 08/12/20 1:53:09 AM #24:	Its not addictive maaaaaan I just need to smoke it every 2 hours or else I get severe headaches and consumed with rage. Thats not cuz of the pot though maaaaaan. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L @ me and ask me about my cool shirt! <cite>Middle hope posted [p:943282289] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Its not addictive maaaaaan I just need to smoke it every 2 hours or else I get severe headaches and consumed with rage. Thats not cuz of the pot though maaaaaan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_School 08/12/20 1:55:04 AM #25:	When I worked part time overnights my favorite thing to do was when a car was sitting outside after they just bought Swisher's to call the cops and tell them a drug deal was taking place. Cops would show up fast as fuck and I'd laugh every time --- Can't refute the substance of the post? Ad hominem! <cite>Blue_School posted [p:943282310] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>When I worked part time overnights my favorite thing to do was when a car was sitting outside after they just bought Swisher's to call the cops and tell them a drug deal was taking place. Cops would show up fast as fuck and I'd laugh every time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/12/20 1:55:55 AM #26:	FF_Redux posted... Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc. Yes it is physically addictive. The thing is THC withdrawal often takes 8+ weeks to manifest and it's not that bad even when you do get it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:943282320] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>FF_Redux posted... </cite> <quote>Like any habit is. Just not physically addictove like alcholo, tobacco or caffeine etc.</quote> Yes it is physically addictive. The thing is THC withdrawal often takes 8+ weeks to manifest and it's not that bad even when you do get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 08/12/20 1:58:50 AM #27:	Of course it's addictive, anyone shouting about how it's a plant and how it can't be a bad thing because it's good for nature is a fucking idiot. I do think it's the safest drug, maybe even moreso than alcohol, and I think it has more business being sold as an 18+ substance than tobacco - but it is an addictive substance without a doubt, and it is bad for you. --- Are you proud to be a Mayonnaise American? <cite>MrMallard posted [p:943282374] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Of course it's addictive, anyone shouting about how it's a plant and how it can't be a bad thing because it's good for nature is a fucking idiot. I do think it's the safest drug, maybe even moreso than alcohol, and I think it has more business being sold as an 18+ substance than tobacco - but it is an addictive substance without a doubt, and it is bad for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 08/12/20 2:34:48 AM #28:	Middle hope posted... Its not addictive maaaaaan I just need to smoke it every 2 hours or else I get severe headaches and consumed with rage. Thats not cuz of the pot though maaaaaan. Is this ironic --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:943283001] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>Its not addictive maaaaaan I just need to smoke it every 2 hours or else I get severe headaches and consumed with rage. Thats not cuz of the pot though maaaaaan.</quote> Is this ironic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/12/20 2:40:18 AM #29:	Its amazing that the doctors themselves dont seem to understand physical and mental addiction. no ones said it cant be mentally addicting. People have said it isnt physically addicting, which the article doesnt dispute. so congrats on not knowing anything about the subject you made a topic on? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:943283071] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Its amazing that the doctors themselves dont seem to understand physical and mental addiction. no ones said it cant be mentally addicting. People have said it isnt physically addicting, which the article doesnt dispute. so congrats on not knowing anything about the subject you made a topic on? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrupt_Power 08/12/20 2:51:30 AM #30:	Zeeak4444 posted... Its amazing that the doctors themselves dont seem to understand physical and mental addiction. no ones said it cant be mentally addicting. People have said it isnt physically addicting, which the article doesnt dispute. so congrats on not knowing anything about the subject you made a topic on? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Corrupt_Power posted [p:943283226] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Its amazing that the doctors themselves dont seem to understand physical and mental addiction. no ones said it cant be mentally addicting. People have said it isnt physically addicting, which the article doesnt dispute. so congrats on not knowing anything about the subject you made a topic on? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommunismFTW 08/12/20 2:52:18 AM #31:	Smackems posted... Tldr still gonna smoke --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. https://imgur.com/OhZgm <cite>CommunismFTW posted [p:943283238] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Tldr still gonna smoke</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 08/12/20 2:52:20 AM #32:	Weed is just as addictive as anything else you enjoy doing. I would rather give up weed than CE, tbh --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:943283239] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Weed is just as addictive as anything else you enjoy doing. I would rather give up weed than CE, tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 08/12/20 3:01:58 AM #33:	mental addiction seems worse imo --- https://imgur.com/sKghEcP 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:943283368] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>mental addiction seems worse imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_School 08/12/20 3:04:10 AM #34:	Imagine being a mental slave and trying to defend the use of pot. --- Can't refute the substance of the post? Ad hominem! <cite>Blue_School posted [p:943283403] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being a mental slave and trying to defend the use of pot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/12/20 3:06:09 AM #35:	Cannabis users understand its dangers. Same with those who use psychedelics. However, theyve all been proven to have medical benefits as well, and its truly immoral that they are classified as such dangerous drugs as they are by the U.S. legal system. Moreover, keeping such substances criminalized only helps the cartels (which are violent terrorist organizations). Legalizing and regulating them all would only help Earth and its people. One example (of many) of how cannabis can help people with serious conditions: https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:943283432] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Cannabis users understand its dangers. Same with those who use psychedelics. However, theyve all been proven to have medical benefits as well, and its truly immoral that they are classified as such dangerous drugs as they are by the U.S. legal system. Moreover, keeping such substances criminalized only helps the cartels (which are violent terrorist organizations). Legalizing and regulating them all would only help Earth and its people. One example (of many) of how cannabis can help people with serious conditions: https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrupt_Power 08/12/20 3:10:42 AM #36:	Blue_School posted... Imagine being a mental slave and trying to defend the use of pot. Imagine being a slave to other people's profits and believing their scare-mongering. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Corrupt_Power posted [p:943283494] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Blue_School posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine being a mental slave and trying to defend the use of pot. </quote> Imagine being a slave to other people's profits and believing their scare-mongering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 08/12/20 3:14:03 AM #37:	MrMallard posted... Of course it's addictive, anyone shouting about how it's a plant and how it can't be a bad thing because it's good for nature is a fucking idiot. I do think it's the safest drug, maybe even moreso than alcohol, and I think it has more business being sold as an 18+ substance than tobacco - but it is an addictive substance without a doubt, and it is bad for you. The safest illegal drug is LSD given that nearly two decades of research never showed any kind of negative health effects --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:943283536] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>Of course it's addictive, anyone shouting about how it's a plant and how it can't be a bad thing because it's good for nature is a fucking idiot. I do think it's the safest drug, maybe even moreso than alcohol, and I think it has more business being sold as an 18+ substance than tobacco - but it is an addictive substance without a doubt, and it is bad for you.</quote>The safest illegal drug is LSD given that nearly two decades of research never showed any kind of negative health effects </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 08/12/20 3:14:38 AM #38:	People were saying it's not? <cite>coh posted [p:943283544] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>People were saying it's not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/12/20 3:30:19 AM #39:	coh posted... People were saying it's not? Right! Pretty much everyone who uses it knows it feels good so it can be mentally addictive. People just argue its not the same kind of addictive as drugs like alcohol or crack. It doesnt have the same physical qualities of addictiveness as drugs like those do. People can literally die from alcohol withdrawal, for example, whereas cannabis withdrawal has never been known to cause that. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:943283777] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>coh posted... </cite> <quote>People were saying it's not?</quote> Right! Pretty much everyone who uses it knows it feels good so it can be mentally addictive. People just argue its not the same kind of addictive as drugs like alcohol or crack. It doesnt have the same physical qualities of addictiveness as drugs like those do. People can literally die from alcohol withdrawal, for example, whereas cannabis withdrawal has never been known to cause that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/12/20 3:35:40 AM #40:	Shadowplay posted... The safest illegal drug is LSD given that nearly two decades of research never showed any kind of negative health effects No long term negative health effects in generally healthy, stress free, and mentally sound* Actually it literally turns you into a hippie** https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201682 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:943283847] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Shadowplay posted... </cite> <quote>The safest illegal drug is LSD given that nearly two decades of research never showed any kind of negative health effects</quote>No long term negative health effects in generally healthy, stress free, and mentally sound* Actually it literally turns you into a hippie** https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201682 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sondast 08/12/20 3:38:05 AM #41:	Its no more addictive than caffeine or sugar. --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. <cite>sondast posted [p:943283877] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Its no more addictive than caffeine or sugar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 08/12/20 3:40:54 AM #42:	sondast posted... Its no more addictive than caffeine or sugar. Less so, imo --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:943283923] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>sondast posted... </cite> <quote>Its no more addictive than caffeine or sugar.</quote> Less so, imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/12/20 4:15:22 AM #43:	The most dangerous thing about weed is getting caught with it tbh --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:943284365] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>The most dangerous thing about weed is getting caught with it tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/12/20 4:34:03 AM #44:	Acid and shrooms are the only cool drugs but weed is alright. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:943284628] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Acid and shrooms are the only cool drugs but weed is alright.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 08/12/20 4:37:19 AM #45:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... The most dangerous thing about weed is getting caught with it tbh As well as the mental health issues it can cause. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:943284663] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>The most dangerous thing about weed is getting caught with it tbh</quote> As well as the mental health issues it can cause. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/12/20 5:00:20 AM #46:	@armandro posted... mental addiction seems worse imo It can seem that way, but as said already mental addictions can occur with pretty much anything. So targeting weed wouldnt get to the root of anyones mental addiction imo. Its just gonna result in substitution (see opioid crisis) at worst and people continuing to buy on the streets and getting locked up. Idk about you but Id rather people mentally addicted to weed then rotting in prison. but you know what includes all the aspects of mental addiction? Physical addiction. Because your body starts shutting down in absence of it. Because you physically get sick when withdrawing from it. you can literally die if you cold turkey as an alcoholic. You cant die from a mental addiction. Physical addictions are 100% worse because they include mental addictions in almost every case. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:943284955] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>@armandro posted... </cite> <quote>mental addiction seems worse imo</quote> It can seem that way, but as said already mental addictions can occur with pretty much anything. So targeting weed wouldnt get to the root of anyones mental addiction imo. Its just gonna result in substitution (see opioid crisis) at worst and people continuing to buy on the streets and getting locked up. Idk about you but Id rather people mentally addicted to weed then rotting in prison. but you know what includes all the aspects of mental addiction? Physical addiction. Because your body starts shutting down in absence of it. Because you physically get sick when withdrawing from it. you can literally die if you cold turkey as an alcoholic. You cant die from a mental addiction. Physical addictions are 100% worse because they include mental addictions in almost every case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 08/12/20 5:05:39 AM #47:	No. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:943285023] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 08/12/20 3:55:24 PM #48:	Zeeak4444 posted... doctors HiddenRoar posted... Mark A. R. Kleiman, a professor of public policy at New York University. HiddenRoar posted... Keith Humphreys, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University HiddenRoar posted... Ziva Cooper, an associate professor of clinical neurobiology in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center Continue to pretend you know more than actual professors and Public Health officials who say otherwise. Lets see what credentials you possess. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943302031] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>doctors</quote> HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Mark A. R. Kleiman, a professor of public policy at New York University.</quote> HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Keith Humphreys, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University</quote> HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Ziva Cooper, an associate professor of clinical neurobiology in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center</quote> Continue to pretend you know more than actual professors and Public Health officials who say otherwise. Lets see what credentials you possess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 08/12/20 4:02:40 PM #50:	im sure those same public health officials will say worse things about alcohol. pick your poison --- Playing: Doom Eternal; Rocket League; Streets of Rage 4 You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:943302319] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>im sure those same public health officials will say worse things about alcohol. pick your poison </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 08/12/20 4:03:16 PM #51:	Tons of things are addicting. Marijuana included. Its the people who say marijuana is the most addicting thing, or say its worse than other drugs or alcohol that are the silly ones. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:943302336] in Potheads o... [t:78907014]...</cite> <quote>Tons of things are addicting. Marijuana included. Its the people who say marijuana is the most addicting thing, or say its worse than other drugs or alcohol that are the silly ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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