Current Events > 538 posts election forecast, says Joe Biden has a 71% chance of winning

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Damn_Underscore
08/12/20 4:11:16 PM
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Who will win the 2020 presidential election



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

"We simulate the election 40,000 times to see who wins most often. The sample of 100 outcomes below gives you a good idea of the range of scenarios our model thinks is possible."

Does gamefaqs poll agree with this?

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DarkBuster22904
08/12/20 4:13:03 PM
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Every single poll/projection forecasted a Hillary win in 2016.

Simulations are fun, but mean very little.

Personally I hope they both get disqualified. Never gonna happen, but that makes it no different than the rest of my hopes and dreams, so...

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voldothegr8
08/12/20 4:13:19 PM
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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08/12/20 4:14:37 PM
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Coloradough
08/12/20 4:15:45 PM
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Meaningless

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Zero_Destroyer
08/12/20 4:16:18 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Every single poll/projection forecasted a Hillary win in 2016.

Simulations are fun, but mean very little.

Personally I hope they both get disqualified. Never gonna happen, but that makes it no different than the rest of my hopes and dreams, so...


voldothegr8 posted...
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

it's weird how the 538 explains this yet these posts still exist

i guess if i call a 1 roll on a die and roll the 1, i'm a liar

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RebelElite791
08/12/20 4:17:36 PM
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Who will win? Biden. Who will take/retain the presidency? I'm not confident.

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Solar_Crimson
08/12/20 4:18:18 PM
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Thunder in Pokemon has a 70% accuracy, and seems to always miss when you need it the most.

People cannot get complacent like with Hillary. The future of our country actually depends on getting Trump out of office.

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Giant_Aspirin
08/12/20 4:19:20 PM
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Clinton was at 68% right before the election IIRC

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BlueTigerLion
08/12/20 4:21:22 PM
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It still isn't 100% so Trump unfortunately still has a chance.

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Tsukasa1891
08/12/20 4:22:59 PM
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Maybe Trump will lose the 2024 election, but I wont hold my breath on that.
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RebelElite791
08/12/20 4:29:29 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
What makes you say this?
I'm not confident in our institutions and Congress to hold Trump to the fire if he refuses to leave office or claims election meddling/tries to invalidate the vote counts.

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Damn_Underscore
08/12/20 4:30:42 PM
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Yes if Biden wins Trump will say "You know what, I'm just going to remain president" and everyone will say "ok"

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DarkBuster22904
08/12/20 4:32:42 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
What makes you say this?
Idk about him, but I'd say its because I don't expect trump to take a loss gracefully.

He's been laying the groundwork to have unfavorable results thrown out for months. His bashing/fight against mail in ballots, constant railing against rigged results and false reporting, he's doing it all for a reason. Whether you think his complaints are made in good faith or not, one thing that I can guarantee is that if he loses, he'll throw out every card he can to get the election stalled, contested, thrown out.

Whether it'll succeed, whether it'll delay, or whether it'll just spark more (and worse) riots,I can't say. But Mark my words, if he loses, he WILL try something.

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Antifar
08/12/20 4:33:27 PM
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Real chance that Trump is leading the vote count in key states on election night and claims victory at that point. How do you see him and his supporters reacting if and when the mail in votes start getting counted and Biden takes the lead?
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Anime
08/12/20 4:34:29 PM
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only poll that matters is in November

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RebelElite791
08/12/20 4:35:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
Real chance that Trump is leading the vote count in key states on election night and claims victory at that point. How do you see him and his supporters reacting if and when the mail in votes start getting counted and Biden takes the lead?
Also, this.

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Alpha218
08/12/20 4:35:05 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
it's weird how the 538 explains this yet these posts still exist

i guess if i call a 1 roll on a die and roll the 1, i'm a liar
People that make those posts dont read the articles. They just want to push the narrative that negative polls on Trump mean nothing.

Hillarys margin with Trump was smaller and the Comey bombshell (with air quotes because they also closed the case shortly after with 0 new evidence found) changed some minds like, right before the election

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Politics
08/12/20 4:35:29 PM
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Heres how Clinton can still win

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TendoDRM
08/12/20 4:37:12 PM
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CE's prediction is 68% right now, pretty close to 538's...

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RebelElite791
08/12/20 4:38:42 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
I agree 100%. I'll even go as far as to say there are sects of the military and law enforcement that would back him--and it wouldn't take defection, either.
Even if the military didn't (and they've so far refused to heed his beck and call), the feds that were being deployed to Portland are fiercely loyal to him

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Giant_Aspirin
08/12/20 4:38:57 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
I'm not confident in our institutions and Congress to hold Trump to the fire if he refuses to leave office or claims election meddling/tries to invalidate the vote counts.

the Secret Service are loyal to the Constitution, not to any individual.

the military doesn't think very highly of Trump. they won't revolt against the rest of the nation for him.

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RebelElite791
08/12/20 4:39:19 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
the Secret Service are loyal to the Constitution, not to any individual.
Cute.

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garan
08/12/20 4:47:45 PM
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Antifar posted...
Real chance that Trump is leading the vote count in key states on election night and claims victory at that point. How do you see him and his supporters reacting if and when the mail in votes start getting counted and Biden takes the lead?


I think there's a very good chance of this happening. As someone on the CBS nightly news said last week-- there's a good chance the results won't really be known for some time after the election, and that it all could come down to the Supreme Court like in 2000. We all know how terribly that turned out.
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RetsuZaiZen
08/12/20 4:48:26 PM
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Ugh. I can't be bothered with polls.

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TheGoldenEel
08/12/20 4:50:13 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Every single poll/projection forecasted a Hillary win in 2016
Well no, they just predicted that it was much more likely Hillary would win

that trump won doesnt mean it wasnt unlikely

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Damn_Underscore
08/12/20 6:09:17 PM
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bump

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pick4six
08/12/20 6:14:07 PM
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Sad its that low, America is stupid

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Machete
08/12/20 6:15:22 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Every single poll/projection forecasted a Hillary win in 2016.

Simulations are fun, but mean very little.

Personally I hope they both get disqualified. Never gonna happen, but that makes it no different than the rest of my hopes and dreams, so...

This is a really bizarre thing to post in non-alternating-caps format...

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Poop2
08/12/20 6:22:52 PM
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Joe just needs to remind real americans of all the monumental failures Trump and republicans committed against them.
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DarkBuster22904
08/12/20 6:22:55 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Well no, they just predicted that it was much more likely Hillary would win

that trump won doesnt mean it wasnt unlikely
I mean, I get that. I understand that.

Even so, that doesn't change the ultimate fact that these predictions are pointless. They predicted she was more likely to win. She lost. They predict Biden is more likely to win. Good for them, I guess?

Like, I UNDERSTAND they aren't making a definitive "Biden will win" statement. Its a projection. But its a projection based on incomplete data, and in absence of influential factors, just like 2016 was. Thats why I call it a fun simulation. I just don't see any benefit in putting stock in it.

I'm not coming at this from a stance of "lol this is dumb, trumps got this, guyz." I'm just sharing my "thoughts," like tc asked, and my thoughts are this projection is pointless, as our current reality demonstrates.

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sondast
08/12/20 6:24:15 PM
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How far down does his chance go when hardly any absentee ballots get counted?

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Damn_Underscore
08/12/20 9:20:33 PM
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bump

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Damn_Underscore
08/13/20 9:09:15 PM
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Now he has a 72% chance

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08/13/20 9:14:29 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
08/13/20 9:18:27 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Thunder in Pokemon has a 70% accuracy, and seems to always miss when you need it the most.
lol


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ChewedMint
08/13/20 9:20:02 PM
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Coloradough posted...
Meaningless
This, Hillary was expected to win and how did that turn out?
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COVxy
08/13/20 9:23:42 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Even so, that doesn't change the ultimate fact that these predictions are pointless. They predicted she was more likely to win. She lost. They predict Biden is more likely to win. Good for them, I guess?

Like, I UNDERSTAND they aren't making a definitive "Biden will win" statement. Its a projection. But its a projection based on incomplete data, and in absence of influential factors, just like 2016 was. Thats why I call it a fun simulation. I just don't see any benefit in putting stock in it.

From this, it is unclear what, if anything, you would put "stock" in.

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Gruntling
08/13/20 9:26:39 PM
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I think Biden stands a better chance than Hillary, but I don't really put a lot of stock in polls anymore.

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Damn_Underscore
08/14/20 2:20:35 PM
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Now it's 73%

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NightMarishPie
08/14/20 2:23:26 PM
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538 predicted the 2018 races with what, like 99% accuracy? 2016 was an outlier and to say otherwise is dishonest. I can't believe people still use that as a taking point.

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Damn_Underscore
08/15/20 4:08:02 PM
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only 72% now

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