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KCF0107
08/24/20 3:57:25 PM
#51:


Before I begin posting and PMing RFA stuff, there has been a trade

Bears receive:
LT Jake Long (87 overall, 30 years old)

Jets receive:
LE Lawrence Jackson (81, 35)
LG Chaz Green (80, 23)
HB Branden Oliver (78, 23)

The Bears will incur a $1.56 mil cap penalty to turn $10.1 mil cap hits into $2.99 mil

The Jets will incur a $4.68 mil cap penalty to turn a $4.55 mil cap hit into $8.53 mil

The Bears are looking at Jake Long as hopefully the retired Jordan Gross' replacement. This also frees up a lot of money for one of the more cap strapped user teams and gives them more flexibility in the draft.

The Jets didn't have a lot of leverage as Long was holding out, but they were able to able to get a haul that fit some of their needs. They lost four DEs to retirement, so getting a top backup in Jackson who has 84 career sacks is a great start. They also get two 23-year-old backups with multiple years of control for an offense where six of its 11 starters are 32 or older.

As the Bears were the only user team, they understood Long's recent history, the financial implications, and what both teams hope to get out of the trade.

This trade is now official.
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SockoressKnight
08/24/20 4:02:15 PM
#52:


What typically happens to holdouts on AI controlled teams?

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KCF0107
08/24/20 4:08:07 PM
#53:


Holdouts or trade demands? Those are two different things. There are three options for both:

1. Let them sit
2. Cut them
3. Trade (demand) or Re-sign (holdout)

It honestly depends on what settings you may have for how the AI handles things and just RNG. In B8NFLL though, I would say that the AI has been more likely to cut players demanding trades and give in to players holding out for a better deal.
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KCF0107
08/24/20 4:18:53 PM
#54:


Restricted Free Agency

This minor but oddly detailed offseason event is for a small subset of players who just completed their untampered rookie contract that was exactly three years in length. These players are not eligible to be originally offered multi-year contracts by the team that holds their rights but instead one-year contracts of fixed figures based on the tender level that you offer them.

Our Tender Levels for this season
No Tender = no potential draft pick compensation = $0
Low Tender = potential original round draft pick compensation = $1.04 mil
Mid Tender = potential 1st round draft pick compensation = $2.28 mil
High Tender = potential 1st + 3rd round draft pick compensation = $3.03 mil

Now, the mentioning of draft pick compensation there is only applicable if another team attempts to sign your player. It has no bearing on this first phase of RFA. It wouldn't make much sense if you had to give up draft picks to sign your own player now would it? Newcomers and people who don't have a good memory are certainly free to ask me what round a player was drafted in if that affects their tender level.

That being said, you might want to keep in mind about that draft pick compensation when you determine what tender to offer your player. If you think highly of your player, you might want to offer the highest tender to deter other teams from attempting to sign them. If you don't consider a player to be a part of your future plans, you might want to offer the low tender so that they barely count against your cap space and you could end up even getting draft pick compensation if someone else wants him.

A word of advice from me: The full monetary amount attached to the tenders is NOT GUARANTEED and in many cases is less than what they would make on the open market, so there is essentially 0 risk to offering all of your players a tender unless you personally hate them with a passion.

You can also engage trade talks with other teams so that you can prearrange a trade that if X player is not signed by another team, you will trade them to Y team for Z compensation that might be lower than what Y team would have had to give up to sign them during RFA. In this scenario, you might want to offer the highest tender level to deter the maximum amount of teams from disrupting the trade.
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KCF0107
08/24/20 4:21:45 PM
#55:


RFA Rules

1. I will privately contact every user and inform them of their RFAs and the tender levels. If you dont have any RFAs, then you wont be notified.

2. Users will have three days to inform me which players they wish to sign and at what level.

3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for.

4. I will give users five days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me.

Now by "any action you wish to take," I mean that everyone has an opportunity to attempt to sign RFAs from other teams. You might see some sticker shock but keep in mind that some positions are more expensive (WRs, DTs, QBs) than others (OLBs, Cs, TEs) relative to their overall rating. An 80 WR will usually be more expensive than a 90 C, and that's just how things are

5. If a team attempts to sign another teams RFA, then the user who owns the RFAs rights will have three days to decide whether or not to match the offer.

The deadline for the first phase (encompassing rule #s 1 + 2) will be Thursday, August 27th at 9 PM ET. As always, do not hesitate to ask me any questions.
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KCF0107
08/24/20 4:41:00 PM
#56:


All PMs have been sent out. Two teams did not have an RFA, so if you didn't receive one, that is why.
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SockoressKnight
08/25/20 2:58:12 PM
#57:


KCF, will you be in the doc later? I need to cook the books-I mean do some cap management.

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KCF0107
08/25/20 3:10:26 PM
#58:


I guess we can set up an appointment
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SockoressKnight
08/25/20 3:32:39 PM
#59:


KCF0107 posted...
I guess we can set up an appointment
What times are available?

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KCF0107
08/25/20 3:43:54 PM
#60:


I don't know whenever if you are talking about today
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ScareChan
08/25/20 3:43:58 PM
#61:


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SockoressKnight
08/25/20 3:55:07 PM
#62:


Let's do it now, then. Or in 3 hours


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KCF0107
08/25/20 4:07:04 PM
#63:


3 hours it is then lol. I will be there at 7 ET
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SockoressKnight
08/25/20 4:10:19 PM
#64:


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Bloodychess
08/25/20 4:13:29 PM
#65:


Do I have to franchise tag an impending FA before putting them on the trade block, or can I just agree in principal to a trade and then use the tag?


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ShatteredElysium
08/25/20 4:18:25 PM
#66:


We don't allow sign and trades (or franchise and trade). Essentially anyone who is currently on 0 years cannot be traded unless they are an RFA. RFAs can be traded after they clear RFA period whether through no offers or you matching the deal
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MysteriousStan
08/25/20 5:30:43 PM
#67:


Yeah the sign and trades kind of got out of hand after awhile so it was decided that they were no longer allowed.
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KCF0107
08/25/20 7:41:04 PM
#68:


Another trade to announce

Panthers receive:
DT Gerald McCoy (86 overall, 28 years old)

Steelers receive:
Panthers 2nd round pick (58th overall)
Panthers 3rd round pick (90th overall)

The Steelers will incur a $2.3 mil cap penalty to clear $6.61 mil in cap space

The Panthers will assume a $5.46 mil cap hit this season

The Panthers continue their trend of using trades and free agency to build their roster by trading away two draft picks for the 28-year-old McCoy as they plan to move on from 34-year-old superstar Claude Wroten.

The Steelers are looking to shed cap space and saw McCoy as one of their prime trade targets.

Both parties exhibited that they understood what each party was giving up and receiving, the financial impact, the history of McCoy, and why each team hoped to achieve (kind of).

This trade is now official.
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KCF0107
08/25/20 8:32:49 PM
#69:


Just a reminder that Hall of Fame voting is still going on, and I plan on doing the "ceremony" tomorrow evening.
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Eddv
08/26/20 10:25:12 AM
#70:


1. HB Adrian Peterson
Yes

2. HB Cornell Brockington
Yes

3. HB Courtney Lewis
no

4. WR Mark Clayton
Yes

5. WR Roddy White
Yes

6. TE Dominique Byrd
No

7. RT George Foster
Yes

8. RG Brandon Moore
Yes

9. LE Abdul Hodge
Yes

10. DT LeKevin Smith
Yes

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu
Yes

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson
Yes

13. CB Adam Jones
Yes

14. SS Thomas Davis
Yes

15. SS Michael Huff
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theawesomestevr
08/26/20 10:55:59 AM
#71:


1. HB Adrian Peterson
Yes

2. HB Cornell Brockington
No

3. HB Courtney Lewis
Definitively no. Also, I hereby nominate him for the Hall of Shame.

4. WR Mark Clayton
Yes

5. WR Roddy White
No

6. TE Dominique Byrd
Maybe

7. RT George Foster
Maybe

8. RG Brandon Moore
No

9. LE Abdul Hodge
Definitely no

10. DT LeKevin Smith
No

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu
Close, but no.

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson
Afraid not

13. CB Adam Jones
Sure I guess

14. SS Thomas Davis
Hm... Would have liked to see his INT ranking among safeties or specifically strong safeties... Am leaning no, but that may be a mistake.

15. SS Michael Huff
Davis is more qualified, so no.

I guess Foster is more of a "probably," but I'll leave it to KCF to decide how to count votes that aren't clearly specified.
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KCF0107
08/26/20 9:15:20 PM
#72:


Hall of Fame voting is closed and the selections will be revealed live in Discord and later posted here
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VeryInsane
08/26/20 9:18:25 PM
#73:


I'll post mine since everyone else did

HB Adrian Peterson - yes
HB Cornell Brockington - No
HB Courtney Lewis - no
WR Mark Clayton - Yes
WR Roddy White - Yes
TE Dominique Byrd - No
RT George Foster - Yes
RG Brandon Moore - No
LE Abdul Hodge - No
DT LeKevin Smith - Yes
MLB Lofa Tatupu - Yes
MLB Gerris Wilkinson - No
CB Adam Jones - Yes
SS Thomas Davis - No
SS Michael Huff - No

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KCF0107
08/26/20 9:36:45 PM
#74:


With nine voters, I decided six yes votes were required for enshrinement with Dominique Byrd and George Foster needing five due to abstained votes. Here are your results:

TE Dominique Byrd - 0
HB Cornell Brockington - 1
DE Adbul Hodge - 1
MLB Gerris Wilkinson - 1
SS Michael Huff - 1
G Brandon Moore - 2
SS Thomas Davis - 3
HB Courtney Lewis - 5
WR Roddy White - 7
OT George Foster - 7
DT LeKevin Smith - 8
MLB Lofa Tatupu - 8
HB Adrian Peterson - 9
WR Michael Clayton - 9
CB Adam Jones - 9


Congrats to this season's Hall of Famers!
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KCF0107
08/26/20 9:47:53 PM
#75:


Raiders have released QB Jared Zabransky
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KCF0107
08/27/20 10:02:49 PM
#76:


Before I started the second phase of RFA, I have another trade to announce

Falcons receive:
SS Lewis Baker (94 overall, 34 years old)

Bills receive:
Falcons 3rd round pick (83rd overall)
Falcons 7th round pick (211th overall)

Falcons will assume a $4.14 mil contract this season

Bills will incur a $1.52 mil cap penalty to shed a $4.90 mil cap hit

The Falcons after losing Thomas Davis to retirement needed a stud member of the secondary and decided that Baker was a much better option than a "flop 3rd round rookie."

The Bills with two other SSs on the roster, they decided they could move Baker to help their roster.

Both parties demonstrated that they understood the financial impact, the past history of Baker, and what each team hoped to achieve.

This trade is now official.
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KCF0107
08/27/20 10:27:01 PM
#77:


RFA Phase 2

The following posts will contain a list of all RFAs, sorted by team, that were offered tenders by their team during the first phase. Each player will have in parenthesis the draft pick compensation required to sign (not simply offer but actually sign) them as well as the default deal that they are looking for to the side.

In order to even submit an offer to a player, you must have the draft picks on hand. Early has the NFL Draft order, which includes any draft pick ownership changes based on previous trades. There have been a few trades since, so keep those in mind for those affected. You should also keep in mind that if you own multiple picks in a round, signing an RFA will have you lose the worst of how ever many picks you have. For example, let's say the Pioneers try to sign Broncos FS Micah Hyde. They own the 8th, 14th, and 31st picks in the 4th round. Should Hyde accept their offer and the Broncos elect not to match their offer in the third phase, the Pioneers will end up giving the Broncos the 31st pick in the 4th round (127th overall).

Going back to the deals in question, these deals are for the other 31 teams in the league. The team who first offered the tender is stuck with the 1 year deal unless a team submits an offer during this phase. You can also offer them a long term deal later on in the offseason as well as any time during the pre, regular, and postseason, but what's important right now is that you understand that you can do nothing about your own RFAs at this moment.

If you do wish to submit an offer to an RFA from another team, the deal mentioned is not the exact deal that you have to offer them. You are free to mess with the years, total money, and/or guaranteed money. As a word of caution though, unless you are trying some bizarre psychological attack to where you offer a deal that would devastate a team financially but would be practically forced to accept, you will want to submit an offer that would ultimately net you the player you seek. Not only that, but you are in essence competing with 30 other teams for the right to simply sign an RFA. If you skimp out on any combination of years, total money, and guaranteed money, you are decreasing, sometimes substantially, the odds that you will get the player.

If you do submit a custom offer, use the base deal as a benchmark. Using Bears TE Trey Burton, he is asking for a 3 / $14.3 mil / $2.82 mil contract. Dividing the latter two figures by the years, you find out that he is asking for an average cap hit of $4.7 mil (14.3 / 3) and annual bonus of $940k mil (2.82 / 3).

I hope that everyone understands the slash line that I explained earlier in the topic, but if not, do not hesitate to ask any questions. You can direct them to me via PM, through the topic, or Discord.

Do not feel compelled to be active in this phase if you don't want to. While most users do not, several do as well as the AI, so it isn't as if nothing happens.
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KCF0107
08/27/20 10:44:54 PM
#78:


Bears
TE Trey Burton (1st) - 3 / $14.3 mil / $2.82 mil
WR Jordan Matthews (1st) - 3 / $17.0 mil / $2.85 mil
ROLB Luther Lewis (1st) - 4 / $10.1 mil / $1.68 mil

Bengals
LG Jamon Brown (4th) - 3 / $15.2 mil / $3.03 mil
ROLB Marcus Smith (3rd) - 4 / $8.10 mil / $1.24 mil

Bills
SS Landon Collins (2nd) - 2 / $7.00 mil / $800k
RT Michael Schofield (3rd) - 4 / $10.5 mil / $1.64 mil
C Anthony Stone (6th) - 3 / $2.74 mil / $360k
DT Tim Valentine (7th) - 5 / $7.48 mil / $900k
ROLB Doug Benson (6th) - 4 / $5.37 mil / $600k

Broncos
SS Derek Linde (1st + 3rd) - 2 / $9.53 mil / $1.06 mil
RE Vinny Curry (2nd) - 5 / $14.4 mil / $1.75 mil
FS Micah Hyde (4th) - 4 / $11.0 mil / $1.84 mil

Browns
RG J.R. Sweezy (1st) - 4 / $10.0 mil / $1.88 mil
DT Phil Taylor (2nd) - 5 / $20.6 mil / $4.05 mil
CB Lamont Foley (3rd) - 5 / $13.7 mil / $1.55 mil

Buccaneers
C David Andrews (1st) - 2 / $7.50 mil / $1.60 mil
SS Adrian Amos (1st) - 2 / $7.40 mil / $900k

Chiefs
LG Kyle Long (1st) - 3 / $17.0 mil / $3.39 mil
LOLB Bud Dupree (2nd) - 4 / $7.70 mil / $1.16 mil
DT Jeff Tucker (4th) - 5 / $12.9 mil / $2.15 mil
WR Jamel Zimmerman (1st) - 3 / $6.34 mil / $900k
MLB Jake Ryan (3rd) - 3 / $6.07 mil / $780k

Colts
WR Cordarrelle Patterson (1st) - 3 / $15.4 mil / $2.58 mil
RE Tyrone Crawford (1st) - 5 / $14.4 mil / $1.75 mil
CB Jamal Muhammad (3rd) - 5 / $16.3 mil / $1.75 mil

Cowboys
DT Dominique Easley (2nd) - 4 / $23.8 mil / $4.56 mil
SS David Suggs (3rd) - 3 / $8.02 mil / $1.08 mil
CB Jon Mike Reed (4th) - 5 / $9.90 mil / $1.20 mil

Dolphins
SS Jaquiski Tartt (1st + 3rd) - 2 / $9.53 mil / $1.06 mil
C Justin Britt (1st) - 2 / $8.32 mil / $1.84 mil
FS Jeff Heath (1st) - 3 / $11.0 mil / $2.10 mil
LE Jabaal Sheard (2nd) - 4 / $15.8 mil / $2.64 mil
LG Laken Tomlinson (3rd) - 4 / $10.0 mil / $1.88 mil
LG A.J. Cann (2nd) - 4 / $9.37 mil / $1.72 mil

Express
HB Jeremy Hill (1st) - 4 / $18.9 mil / $3.60 mil
QB Tom Savage (2nd) - 4 / $20.8 mil / $4.00 mil
FS Walt Aikens (4th) - 4 / $9.50 mil / $1.56 mil
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KCF0107
08/27/20 10:59:50 PM
#79:


Falcons
ROLB Anthony Chickillo (1st) - 3 / $12.0 mil / $2.22 mil
RG Justin Pugh (3rd) - 4 / $10.0 mil / $1.88 mil
CB Donald Immelman (4th) - 5 / $9.90 mil / $1.20 mil

49ers
DT Devin Wesley (4th) - 5 / $15.5 mil / $2.80 mil

Giants
RT Joel Bitonio (2nd) - 4 / $11.3 mil / $1.84 mil
RG Barrett Jones (3rd) - 4 / $8.76 mil / $1.60 mil

Jaguars
RT Ty Sambrailo (1st) - 3 / $14.7 mil / $3.36 mil
WR Cole Beasley (1st) - 3 / $17.0 mil / $2.85 mil
CB Vinnie Reid (2nd) - 5 / $15.0 mil / $1.65 mil
HB Al Johnson (1st) - 5 / $9.63 mil / $1.55 mil

Jets
WR Davante Adams (1st) - 3 / $20.1 mil / $3.39 mil
RE Jaye Howard (3rd) - 5 / $11.7 mil / $1.50 mil
ROLB K.C. Oldham (4th) - 4 / $8.10 mil / $1.24 mil

Lightning
HB David Wilson (3rd) - 5 / $14.0 mil / $2.50 mil
LT Charles Leno Jr. (2nd) - 5 / $13.6 mil / $2.15 mil
LOLB Chad Rice (4th) - 4 / $7.70 mil / $1.16 mil

Lions
RT Jake Matthews (1st) - 3 / $18.5 mil / $4.59 mil
RG John Miller (4th) - 4 / $8.76 mil / $1.60 mil

Packers
CB Darqueze Dennard (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $24.9 mil / $4.44 mil
HB Christine Michael (3rd) - 5 / $14.0 mil / $2.50 mil
MLB Rob Harrison (4th) - 3 / $9.04 mil / $870k

Patriots
DT Damon Harrison (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $28.0 mil / $5.28 mil
ROLB Luther O'Neal (3rd) - 4 / $10.1 mil / $1.68 mil
C Isaac Claybrooks (4th) - 3 / $7.23 mil / $1.29 mil

Pioneers
LE Henry Anderson (2nd) - 5 / $14.4 mil / $1.75 mil
FS Brock Vereen (4th) - 4 / $8.71 mil / $1.40 mil
LOLB Jim Jones (3rd) - 4 / $8.10 mil / $1.24 mil
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KCF0107
08/27/20 11:12:03 PM
#80:


Pumpkins
SS Clayton Geathers (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $9.87 mil / $1.17 mil
LE Trent Murphy (1st) - 5 / $12.8 mil / $1.60 mil
HB Alfred Blue (4th) - 5 / $11.3 mil / $1.85 mil

Raiders
LOLB Tee Ilko (1st) - 3 / $17.9 mil / $3.54 mil
C Mitch Morse (2nd) - 2 / $7.90 mil / $1.72 mil
LT Luke Joeckel (2nd) - 4 / $17.1 mil / $3.64 mil

Rams
C Travis Swanson (4th) - 3 / $6.73 mil / $1.20 mil
LOLB Daniel Bush (2nd) - 4 / $8.10 mil / $1.24 mil

Ravens
LG Andrus Peat (1st) - 3 / $13.4 mil / $2.64 mil
QB Trevor Siemian (1st) - 4 / $20.8 mil / $4.00 mil
DT Beau Allen (2nd) - 4 / $19.6 mil / $3.88 mil

Seahawks
HB Terrance West (3rd) - 5 / $14.0 mil / $2.50 mil
DT Sharrif Floyd (2nd) - 5 / $14.2 mil / $2.50 mil
LOLB Mark Ogden (4th) - 4 / $6.86 mil / $960k

Steelers
CB Bashaud Breeland (2nd) - 4 / $21.0 mil / $3.08 mil
HB Carlos Hyde (3rd) - 4 / $14.3 mil / $2.60 mil
RT Ryan Schraeder (2nd) - 3 / $10.9 mil / $2.16 mil
MLB Ricardo Haley (3rd) - 3 / $10.0 mil / $900k
WR Jeff Janis (4th) - 3 / $10.5 mil / $1.68 mil

Titans
HB C.J. Anderson (1st) - 4 / $16.5 mil / $3.08 mil
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins (1st) - 4 / $11.6 mil / $1.76 mil
RG Brian Winters (3rd) - 4 / $9.37 mil / $1.72 mil
RE Jack Crawford (3rd) - 5 / $12.3 mil / $1.55 mil
CB Brandon Ferris (3rd) - 5 / $12.4 mil / $1.45 mil

Vikings
TE Travis Kelce (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $16.3 mil / $3.51 mil
QB Jameis Winston (2nd) - 5 / $21.0 mil / $3.50 mil
WR Marquise Goodwin (4th) - 3 / $12.2 mil / $1.98 mil

Washington
RG Al Cleveland (7th) - 4 / $8.76 mil / $1.60 mil
CB Sam Strauser (4th) - 5 / $12.4 mil / $1.45 mil
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KCF0107
08/27/20 11:12:50 PM
#81:


The deadline to submit offers for the second phase of RFA will be 11:59 ET on Tuesday, September 1st
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MysteriousStan
08/28/20 5:45:03 PM
#82:


I would like to put K Sergio Aguayo (99 OVR, 33 yrs) on the trade block. If anyone's interested shoot me a message.
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08/30/20 9:31:26 PM
#83:


Uppity
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KCF0107
09/01/20 9:54:09 PM
#84:


I should get this in before the deadline, but we have another trade to announce

Bills receive:
DT Babatunde Oshinowo (89 overall, 36 years old)

Raiders receive:
Bills 3rd round pick (66th overall)
Bills 5th round pick (130th overall)

The Bills will assume a $5.41 mil contract.

The Raiders will incur a $1.76 mil cap penalty to shed a $7.17 mil cap hit.

The Bills want to use some mid-round picks to fill a massive hole in their DL as they try to fix their run defense.

The Raiders feel that they have a playoff-caliber roster and are willing to shed the 36-year-old Oshinowo's salary to put it elsewhere.

Both parties demonstrated that they understood the financial impact, what Oshinowo did in his one season in Oakland, and what each team hoped to achieve (again sort of, and I will be more strict on this in the future).

This trade is now official.
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DoomTheGyarados
09/01/20 10:39:18 PM
#85:


Bucs currently looking to add an elite CB, fielding offers.
Bucs currently looking to add an elite WR, fielding offers.

Also @MysteriousStan I would be interested in the kicker. Let me know what you'd like in return.


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KCF0107
09/02/20 12:07:12 AM
#86:


Phase 2 of Restricted Free Agency has ended

For Phase 3, I will notify any users whose RFAs they offered a tender to were signed to a contract by another team. Those users will have until Noon ET on Saturday, September 5th to decide if they wish to match the contract or let them sign with the other team for draft pick compensation. Should all teams notify me before the deadline, then we will begin the next offseason event sooner.
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KCF0107
09/02/20 3:40:52 PM
#87:


Just a reminder that if you fail to notify me by the deadline, then you will default to not match the contract that was signed in Phase 2 and lose the player.
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KCF0107
09/03/20 4:58:57 PM
#88:


So while we wait, I guess that I will do some things that I do every other season or so.

With Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren's retirements, we are down to two players who have started all 208 B8NFLL games thus far:
- Dolphins DE Travis Johnson
- Broncos DT Tommie Harris.
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KCF0107
09/03/20 5:01:33 PM
#89:


Everyone except the new people should know this, but the league began not with the actual rosters of the 32 teams for the 2005-2006 season but a random fantasy draft where users picked the teams they wanted and the game did an automated draft to fill those teams. With 13 seasons completed, there are 34 active players who are still with the team that selected them in the fantasy draft. Because of retirement ages, the overwhelming majority will be OL, DL, Ks, and Ps, but there are a few exceptions:
- Bears RG Shawn Andrews
- Bengals LT Khalif Barnes
- Bengals WR Mike Williams
- Bills RT Alex Barron
- Broncos RT Elton Brown
- Broncos RT Shane Olivea
- Broncos DT Tommie Harris
- Colts K Jeff Reed
- Colts DT Ian Scott
- Dolphins LE Travis Johnson
- 49ers K Josh Scobee
- 49ers LE Marcus Spears
- Giants MLB Barrett Ruud
- Jets K Lawrence Tynes
- Jets RG Jake Grove
- Lions P Rodney Williams
- Lions K Rob Bironas
- Lions LG Justin Smiley
- Lions RG Jonathan Clinkscale
- Packers K Josh Brown
- Packers C Jeff Faine
- Packers LG Logan Mankins
- Panthers MLB Jonathan Vilma
- Patriots P Dustin Colquitt
- Patriots TE Heath Miller
- Pioneers K Nate Kaeding
- Pumpkins P Kyle Larson
- Rams RT Robert Gallery
- Rams LG David Diehl
- Seahawks RG Chris Snee
- Titans K Robbie Gould
- Vikings P Dave Zastudil
- Vikings RG Qasim Mitchell
- Washington K Mike Nugent
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KCF0107
09/03/20 7:02:08 PM
#90:


To continue filling in the time, I will judge players coming off of their rookie seasons. For the first few rounds, I will name my biggest disappointments both regardless and considering draft position (like Top 10 in the round) as well as greatest successes both regardless and considering draft position (like Bottom 10 in the round).

Biggest 1st Round Disappointment regardless of draft position - Giants WR Tyler Lockett (19th)

The league's most expensive rookie was mostly a non-factor in the pass game despite starting all 16 games behind an offense that threw for nearly 3000 yards. He had 26 rec for 331 yards and a TD. Street free agent Sam DeSa had 378 yards and 3 TDs in five games

Biggest 1st Round Disappointment considering draft position - Panthers QB Carson Wentz (3rd)

Wentz was the #3 overall pick and had the third worst passer rating in the league. His 67.3 passer rating was worse than the disgraced Matt Ryan ever produced in a season. Taken two picks later, Lions QB Jared Goff produced an 81.4 passer rating.

Greatest 1st Round Success regardless of draft position - Dolphins MLB Jordan Tripp (32nd)

He won Defensive Player of the Year as a rookie. Enough said.

Greatest 1st Round Success considering draft position - Hawks G Connor McGovern (26th)

Interior OL seldom get taken in the 1st round, but McGovern was a mega hit his rookie season. He had 51 blocks against 3 sacks allowed as he helped DeMarco Murray tie a career best at 4.6 YPC and the Hawks make a late season surge to claim the AFC West and a playoff win.
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KCF0107
09/03/20 7:07:58 PM
#91:


Biggest 2nd Round Disappointment regardless of draft position - Giants DT Ra'Shede Hageman (19th)

Eddv must sure be happy to have his first two draft picks named to this. There were like 70-something players that were eligible for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Hageman finished second to last ahead of a 7th rounder and behind undrafted free agents. He had 3 tackles as the rotational DT.

Biggest 2nd Round Disappointment considering draft position - Chiefs DE Alex Okafor (1st)

This is mainly due to a missed opportunity cost to drafting DEs Stephon Tuitt, Leonard Williams, and Dee Ford when the Chiefs were gifted an opportunity to move up and select one of them. They didn't accept it, and Tuitt and Ford are 85s, Williams 83, and Okafor is 77.

Greatest 2nd Round Success regardless of draft position - Pioneers G Wes Schweitzer (13th)

Because the Chiefs did not move up, the Pioneers did not draft WR Allen Hurns with what would have been the 33rd overall pick and took Schweitzer at 45. He had 40 blocks against 5 sacks, helped pave the wave for MVP finalist HB Markus Manson, and was starting in a Super Bowl as a rookie.

Greatest 2nd Round Success considering draft position - Pioneers SS Vonn Bell (29th)

Double Pioneers for this round. The Pioneers used the pick in the Le'Veon Bell trade to select another Bell. While incumbent SS Jessie Daniels was excellent and went on a tear with the Browns after a midseason trade, Bell still produced 3 sacks, 3 INTs, and a FF as he helped shut down opposing defenses en route to the SB.
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KCF0107
09/03/20 7:17:11 PM
#92:


Biggest 3rd Round Disappointment regardless of draft position - Packers G Jeremiah Poutasi (30th)

I'm really grasping at straws here, so the disappointments will end at this round. Instead of grabbing an interior OL in the 1st round like Cameron Erving, Brandon Sherff, and Joshua Garnett, all of whom combined for 79 blocks vs 11 sacks, the Packers waited until Day 2 to select one and Poutasi put up 2 blocks against 2 sacks for a team that went from picking 31st to 3rd in just one season.

Biggest 3rd Round Disappointment considering draft position - Steelers TE O.J. Howard (2nd)

The Steelers not only traded up but gave up what ended up being the 52nd pick to select Howard who though caught 2 TD passes had just a 6.0 YPC. The TEs selected just after Howard, Hunter Henry and David Njoku, had an 8.7 YPC on much higher volumes.

Greatest 3rd Round Success regardless of draft position - Lightning TE David Njoku (10th)

Njoku was a rare TE Rookie of the Year candidate (let's ignore that it was arguably our weakest season for offensive rookies) and easily solidified himself as the best TE in the franchise since Dallas Clark left. He had 63 rec for 514 yards and 4 TDs.

Greatest 3rd Round Success considering draft position - Jags RG Spencer Drango (12th)

3rd round rookies just didn't do much this season, so I'm going all the way to the 12th player taken in the round. In a lost season for Jacksonville that was plagued with injury after injury, especially on the offensive line, Drango had 25 blocks against 4 sacks while starting five games in place of an injured Ronald Leary
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KCF0107
09/03/20 7:43:27 PM
#93:


Greatest 4th Round Success regardless of draft position - Falcons WR Matt Hazel (14th)

Hazel was the 10th WR taken in the draft and finished 2nd among rookies at the position in rec yards with 690, and this was for an offense that had barely 2300 yards through the air.

Greatest 4th Round Success considering draft position - Ravens OT Chad Wheeler (24th)

The 11th OT taken in the draft, Wheeler started five games and put up 36 blocks against 2 sacks allowed for the AFC North champions.

Greatest 5th Round Success regardless of draft position - Cowboys WR Rory Henderson (31st)

Yes he tied or was the outright leader for fumbles thanks to his dual role as a returner, but Henderson is probably the greatest Cowboys success story for Day 3 WRs for a franchise known to produce quite a few of them. As the slot receiver, he had 26 rec for 465 yards and a pair of TDs while also finishing 16th in KR avg, 3rd in PR avg, and chipping in a return TD.

Greatest 5th Round Success considering draft position - Bucs SS Andre Cobb (27th)

Well, Henderson was taken with the second-to-last pick in the round, so I guess that I'm going with Cobb here. His statline was pretty great considering his draft and playing status with 39 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF, and 2 FRs. He played for a Bucs team coming off of maybe its worst season ever, so it's hard to say if he put up an empty statline and was really a liability.
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KCF0107
09/03/20 7:44:45 PM
#94:


Greatest 6th Round Success regardless of draft position - Jags K Andrew Franks (29th)

After having David Akers for the first 12 seasons, the Jags turned to Franks for S13, and he came up with 27 FGs on 81 FG% and hit 6-7 from 50+. K stats have quite a bit of volatility, but this is very encouraging!

Greatest 6th Round Success considering draft position - Packers OT Keenan Evans (30th)

Evans was the 17th OT taken and while he didn't put up the sterling ratios like other rookie OL did, he had 62 blocks against 9 sacks as the 190th overall pick. I wouldn't say that people would kill for that production as that means your vastly superior OL went down with injuries, but everyone would be happy with that production given the circumstances.

Greatest 7th Round Success regardless of draft position - Pioneers MLB Kyle Kato (7th)

Kato played five games as a rookie because incumbent starting Clifton Thompson was injured during the preseason. In those five games, he had 48 tackles, 6 sacks, 1 INT, 2 FFs, 2 FRs, and a defensive TD. He sat on the bench for the following 11 games, but he still was a Defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. The Pioneers used the picks they acquired trading with the Bears to select WR Stefon Diggs, SS Vonn Bell, and MLB Kyle Kato. All three were impressive, but it was the 7th rounder who was arguably the best of them all.

Greatest 7th Round Success considering draft position - Buccaneers P Peter Mortell (27th)

Mortell finished tied for 6th in punting average and tied for 11th in net average. He was on the leaderboard for punting average almost wire-to-wire.
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KCF0107
09/05/20 2:19:36 PM
#95:


RFA Phase 3 results:

- Bears signed Broncos SS Derek Linde to a 6 year deal. The Broncos have elected not to match and receive the Bears 1st and Pioneers 3rd round picks.

- Bears signed Washington G Al Cleveland to a 6 year deal. Washington idled and thus default to not matching and received the Bears 7th round pick.

- Bengals signed Colts CB Jamal Muhammad to a 5 year deal. The Colts idled and thus default to not matching and received the Bengals 3rd round pick.

- Bills have signed Jets WR Davante Adams to a 6 year deal. The Jets have elected not to match and receive the Bills 1st round pick.

- Bills have signed Patriots OLB Luther O'Neal to a 3 year deal. The Pats have elected not to match and receive the Falcons 3rd round pick.

- Bills have signed Patriots C Isaac Claybrooks to a 4 year deal. The Pats have elected not to match and receive the Bills 4th round pick.

- Buccaneers signed Vikings TE Travis Kelce to a 3 year deal. The Vikings have elected not to match and receive the Buccaneers 1st and 3rd round picks.

- Buccaneers signed Cowboys DT Dominique Easley to a 4 year deal. The Cowboys have elected not to match and receive the Buccaneers 2nd round pick.

- Lightning signed Raiders OLB Tee Ilko to a 5 year deal. The Raiders have elected to match.

- Patriots signed Steelers CB Bashaud Breeland to a 4 year deal. The Steelers have elected not to match and receive the Pats 2nd round pick.

- Pumpkins signed Bengals G Jamon Brown to a 4 year deal. The Bengals have elected to match.

- Pumpkins signed Raiders C Mitch Morse to a 4 year deal. The Raiders have elected not to match and receive the Pumpkins 2nd round pick.

- Rams signed Dolphins DE Jabaal Sheard to a 5 year deal. The Dolphins have elected not to match and receive the Rams 2nd round pick.

- Vikings signed Dolphins SS Jaquiski Tartt to a 5 year deal. The Dolphins have elected not to match and receive the Vikings 1st and 3rd round picks.
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KCF0107
09/05/20 2:21:00 PM
#96:


I should get around to updating the spreadsheet later today, and we will start the next offseason event tomorrow.
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theawesomestevr
09/05/20 2:47:19 PM
#97:


Not expecting much, but if anyone is interested in WR Andre Caldwell (33 yrs old; 84 OVR; $1.06 mil. discount for this season and next) let me know.

Draft pick, or a deal where we swap draft picks would be the most likely scenario if anyone's interested, though we'll listen to any offer.

We also need help at DE, but that would likely be asking for too much.

Oh, and we'd also trade MLB Mychael Kendricks and/or OLB Luke Kuechly if anyone's interested there.
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KCF0107
09/05/20 6:05:11 PM
#98:


If anybody desires a G, I'm willing to part with G Andy Christensen for like a 4th round pick, but we could get creative. That might seem like a low price for an 88 G, but he isn't a phenomenal G or anything. His career stats are 132 blocks against 27 sacks, which is just under 5 blocks per sack. He is a balanced G that leans slightly toward run-blocking and has one year left on his contract for $5.68 mil.
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KCF0107
09/05/20 6:23:21 PM
#99:


In the meantime, we have another trade

Buccaneers receive:
K Sergio Aguayo (99 overall, 33 years old)

Bears receive:
Bucs 4th round pick (101st overall)
Bucs 5th round pick (133rd overall)

The Bucs will assume a $1.64 mil cap hit

The Bears will incur an $830k cap penalty to wipe out a $2.47 mil cap hit

When Chris has been active, he has a long history of eschewing the draft for established players, and with longtime K Jay Feely's retirement, he would rather get the top-rated K and one of only a handful of kickers in our league's history with multiple seasons of making 90+% of their FGAs than grab a free agent or try to develop one in the draft.

The Bears are still in their rebuilding process and were willing to part with a luxury in Aguayo for draft assets and cap relief.

Both teams demonstrated that they understood the trade parameters, the financial impact, Aguayo's past history, and what each team hoped to achieve with the trade.

This trade is now official.
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MysteriousStan
09/05/20 10:47:03 PM
#100:


Putting the following players on the trade block:

WR Jordan Matthews (82 OVR, 26 yrs)
TE Trey Burton (88 OVR, 24 yrs)
SS Baccari Rambo (83 OVR, 28 yrs)

Matthews and Burton are on RFA deals. Rambo is an excellent special teams player but with the contract I gave Linde I imagine Rambo will eventually become too expensive for me lol
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