Board 8 > Worst live-action, theatrically-released Star Wars movie?

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colliding posted...

how hyper sensitive do you have to be to be triggered by a shirt like that. god forbid girls and women start feeling good about themselves.

if you need to wear a shirt like that to "start feeling good about yourself" you probably need help tbqh

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Hey, I'm as anti-SJW as the rest of them, but I think women ruining the beloved Star Wars franchise is just karmic payback for "bronies" desecrating beloved female franchise My Little Pony.

Is this going on your gravestone?

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

if you need to wear a shirt like that to "start feeling good about yourself" you probably need help tbqh

Yeah the CEO of lucasfilm really needs your help

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TheRock1525 posted...

So does a Wookiepedia article.

"Adding to the lore" does not make a good or even decent movie.

This. And then the same people act like praising the sequel trilogy at all discredits your film opinions forever, which is the part that really drives me up a wall.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Yeah the CEO of lucasfilm really needs your help

apparently being the CEO of lucasfilm doesn't necessarily eradicate mental health issues!

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At worst Kathleen Kennedy is just overseeing a dumpster fire without doing much to help. She gives a vibe of being cornered in most interviews with her.

That being said, I feel like people acting like Star Wars is dead are seriously exaggerating. To me it's more like Star Wars is simply no longer top dog, but it's still a massive franchise that will be around for a while. Now Terminator, RoboCop, Predator, and Alien on the other hand, those franchises are basically dead.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Probably because even if they told terrible rehashed stories, they are still shot significantly better than the PT (Lucas infamous "green screen shots" where characters walk a limited space then stop) and are acted significantly better than the PT. And considering these are major movies in a huge movie franchise, celebrating them the same way you'd celebrate B-movie schlock (so bad it's good) doesn't make a lot of sense.

This kind of sums up why PT > ST is mind-boggling to me. In my eyes ST does like most of the fundamental film stuff so much better. I don't think the ST has a bad performance or a particular example of bad casting for instance. PT has loads even from good actors, some of whom are trying to elevate bad dialogue but can't. I'd also question PTs editing - there must have been better takes for some of those scenes. All 3 STs are visually much better (even allowing for the 20-year advantage; I think even the OT is better to look at than the PT mostly due to the jarring CGI). And you can laugh at that and say it doesn't matter using videogame logic, but in a massive space opera deal it so obviously, totally does.

Honestly a lot of it comes off to me as a way of exaggerating loathing of the ST. "It was so bad even the Prequels were better!" That's one of the only ways I can really reconcile it in my head.

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When Thor Skywalker polled his viewers on whether their views of the prequel trilogy have improved, more than 60% of them voted for the "I never disliked them in the first place" option.

There you have it. The sequel trilogy was made specifically to win over people turned off by the prequels, so it's no surprise this approach would backfire among Star Wars fans for whom this was not the case. I just don't get how they have the gall to proclaim that they are the core fanbase somehow when they weren't very visible until fairly recently.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

At worst Kathleen Kennedy is just overseeing a dumpster fire without doing much to help. She gives a vibe of being cornered in most interviews with her.

kathleen kennedy is a terrible CEO and it has nothing to do with whether or not she's a feminist.

first of all, those interviews make it painfully obvious that she simply isn't a star wars fan in the hardcore sense. anything she ever has to say about star wars is just superficial rhetoric. this is pretty inexcusable when you're the head of fucking lucasfilm.

second of all, she's made a ton of terrible decisions during her time as CEO. refusing to let JJ make the trilogy he wanted to make, greenlighting a completely gratuitous han solo movie when all the star wars fans are yelling for an old republic movie (not saying "the fans are always right" but this made it obvious that she's not willing to take a risk), firing lord & miller from said movie... the list goes on and on.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

When Thor Skywalker polled his viewers on whether their views of the prequel trilogy have improved, more than 60% of them voted for the "I never disliked them in the first place" option.

How many of those do you think were telling the truth?

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XIII_rocks posted...

How many of those do you think were telling the truth?

This depends an awful lot on the age of his viewership.

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XIII_rocks posted...

How many of those do you think were telling the truth?

I don't really have any good reason NOT to believe them.

Anyway, the main problem with the prequel trilogy was that George got too self-indulgent in his mythology. The main problem with the entire Disney era is that it's clear the movies are being made with maximizing profits as the main goal which is really disappointing for a franchise with a literal universe of potential. And I don't even have that much of a problem with the similarities between the OT and ST.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

The only reason people hate The Last Jedi so much is because it came out right after the announcement of Disney buying out Fox.

I could care less who owns what. The movie was awful. It's like they were trying to make a completely different sci-fi movie, which just happened to be set in the Star Wars universe. And featured people doing stupid things. And had completely unnecessary sections. And wasn't interesting.

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I was addressing mostly people en masse. My point was that yes the movie has serious problems, but I swear the movie wouldn't draw such vitriol if it weren't for outside circumstances beyond its control.

I'd go so far as to say another big reason for the vicious hate directed at the sequel trilogy is that people view it as emblematic of everything wrong with modern cinema. Which I can't really blame them for, to be honest.

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LMS, I can say with certainty, that you really don't understand what you're talking about.

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ninkendo posted...

It's really only a toss up between that and Phantom menace depends if you go with the boring movie or the actual bad movie

Pod racing > the sequel trilogy (and the rest of the prequel trilogy)

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Bruh, The Last Jedi was just not a good Star Wars movie. Rian Johnson is a fantastic director and has made plenty of good films but that was a massive fucking flop that nearly ruined my opinion of him and the sequel series as a whole.

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TLJ is at minimum the best Star Wars movie since RotJ

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TLJ is somehow still a top 5 Star Wars movie despite not being very good.

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