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scar the 1 posted...

Wtf

This. If a guy approaches you and you're not sure he's a cop despite what he is wearing you have the right to ask who you are speaking to, even if they don't like it. Also, a cop can only card you if he has reason to think you are suspect of commiting a crime, you match the description of a suspect, if you have committed a crime or if they pull you over and you are operating a motor vehicle.

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I4NRulez posted...

I shouldnt have to stop and identify myself to cop on the basis of my skin color.

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Reminds me of this story

https://youtu.be/vBrnBmUmVzI

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idunno about you guys, but a class of people who can brutalize you for not blindly obeying them isnt something I want around!

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Stupid af. Hopefully he's acquitted and sues the shit out of them.

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lordofmud posted...

So, a couple or three things.

The number one thing an innocent person should think when stopped by the police is...what do I need to do to get home safe?

Second: If the police stop and detain you they are able to order you to produce ID. It's just the law. See rule one. Afterwards you can get badge numbers and file a complaint but at that moment you are required to comply.

Third: don't talk to cops. Everything you say is admissible. If they ask you question you do NOT have to answer. You have to provide ID if the police have probable cause to suspect you have violated a law. But that is it. You don't have to tell them where you work or what you are doing.

Fourth: if you don't answer questions it may make things more difficult and draw things out. But that's ok, you are within your rights not to answer questions. If you think the police are harassing you say so, but continue to obey commands. If they tell you to get out of the car, get out. If they want to search you, let them (see Terry frisk). Remember that these guys can arrest or hurt you (see rule 1).

Fifth: cops are human and can react poorly. It's not fair but that is how it is. Your main goal is to get home. Do what you need to do to get home. If you are in a state that allows you to record the police do that. You can weigh filing a complaint at home, safe.

It's amazing that you cannot see how insanely problematic this is. This should not be something you should have to think whatsoever. If you are innocent (and don't initiate violence during the conversation/inappropriate arrest), you should have ZERO concern about interacting with the cops "incorrectly" and dying because of it.

Seriously. You're talking like the cop is a criminal or gang member. Why should a civilian have to jump into survival mode whenever they interact with a cop?
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Im curious as to how CE thinks cops should go about detaining possible suspects, especially when theyre refusing to provide identification and start resisting. Theyre working off extremely vague descriptions provided to them by dispatch/briefings, not photographs.


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scorpion41 posted...

Im curious as to how CE thinks cops should go about detaining possible suspects, especially when theyre refusing to provide identification and start resisting. Theyre working off extremely vague descriptions provided to them by dispatch/briefings, not photographs.

It's cute how you think American police aren't insanely incompetent compared to other first world countries'


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WizardPowers posted...

It's cute how you think American police aren't insanely incompetent compared to other first world countries'

Thats not what I asked. How do you think police should detain possible suspects?

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scorpion41 posted...

Im curious as to how CE thinks cops should go about detaining possible suspects, especially when theyre refusing to provide identification and start resisting. Theyre working off extremely vague descriptions provided to them by dispatch/briefings, not photographs.

By speaking clearly, calmly, and reason with them using logic.

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