Poll of the Day > If you press this button, all covidiots will die in their sleep.

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Accrovideogames 08/30/20 9:12:20 PM #51:	SunWuKung420 posted... "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD10 code U07.1" are 170k. "Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death." are less than 7k. Wow, just wow. I can't believe I read something this stupid. US Statistics All deaths involving COVID-19: 167,558 Deaths involving pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding influenza: 171,800 Deaths involving both pneumonia and COVID-19, excluding influenza: 74,236 All deaths involving influenza, with or without COVID-19 or pneumonia: 6,655 Deaths involving pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19: 270,792 How to read these numbers: Since the pandemic started, a total of at least 270,792 people died in the US due to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19. If we only count COVID-19 deaths, the total is at least 167,558 people. The difference between the two involve pneumonia and/or influenza deaths, but not COVID-19. Nearly 170,000 is a lot more than less than 7,000. --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944020209] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>"Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD10 code U07.1" are 170k. "Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death." are less than 7k.</quote>Wow, just wow. I can't believe I read something this stupid. US Statistics All deaths involving COVID-19: 167,558 Deaths involving pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding influenza: 171,800 Deaths involving both pneumonia and COVID-19, excluding influenza: 74,236 All deaths involving influenza, with or without COVID-19 or pneumonia: 6,655 Deaths involving pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19: 270,792 How to read these numbers: Since the pandemic started, a total of at least 270,792 people died in the US due to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19. If we only count COVID-19 deaths, the total is at least 167,558 people. The difference between the two involve pneumonia and/or influenza deaths, but not COVID-19. Nearly 170,000 is a lot more than less than 7,000. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 9:15:08 PM #52:	TC thinks "presumed" is a valid statistic. Lol --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944020319] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>TC thinks "presumed" is a valid statistic. Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/30/20 9:15:27 PM #53:	Accrovideogames posted... This means that even if you survive it, you may catch it over and over again. You can, but I also read that it's unlikely. Meaning that it could slow down over time... Accrovideogames posted... As long as covidiots are around, this pandemic will never end. Are you actually willing to live like this for the rest of your life? There will never be a vaccine, scientists have been trying to find one for coronaviruses for decades now and one was never found. Just because they haven't made one ye doesn't mean they won't. That's how science works... They eventually make new stuff... Accrovideogames posted... If you think pressing that button is evil, there's something wrong with you. I mean, it's still evil. You'd be a murderer. And tbh, it's possible you'd kill way more people pushing that button vs how many would die from the covidiots if you didn't... The only thing that changes is who dies. And tbh, some people might die either way since covidiots aren't the only ones who pass along the virus... And maybe covidiots don't have the virus, nor would they all pass it. And if people do the same things as those other families by not letting covidiots back in the house after a party, then it still lowers who catches it. And then, the covidiots will just kill each other off by then getting it and dying. Or suffering for a while and realizing it's pretty bad. Which brings up something else. Some, people are covidiots because it hasn't affected them or their family. All some of them need is to see someone they know get it, and then they'll realize it's real. Which can easily be done without killing millions of people... Also, this who things reeks of "The ends justifies the means" kind of logic. Which I've never fully agreed with... Especially in this case where you'd most likely kill more people than you'd save... Accrovideogames posted... Because what the covidiots are doing aren't already a horrific mass murder? Well, no. It's not like only covidiots catch or pass it. And mass murder for what they are doing is a ridiculous assumption. The people who are pushing the button are actually commiting mass murder, though. And on a horrific scale... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:944020329] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Accrovideogames posted...</cite> <quote>This means that even if you survive it, you may catch it over and over again.</quote> You can, but I also read that it's unlikely. Meaning that it could slow down over time... Accrovideogames posted...</cite> <quote>As long as covidiots are around, this pandemic will never end. Are you actually willing to live like this for the rest of your life? There will never be a vaccine, scientists have been trying to find one for coronaviruses for decades now and one was never found.</quote> Just because they haven't made one ye doesn't mean they won't. That's how science works... They eventually make new stuff... Accrovideogames posted...</cite> <quote>If you think pressing that button is evil, there's something wrong with you.</quote> I mean, it's still evil. You'd be a murderer. And tbh, it's possible you'd kill way more people pushing that button vs how many would die from the covidiots if you didn't... The only thing that changes is who dies. And tbh, some people might die either way since covidiots aren't the only ones who pass along the virus... And maybe covidiots don't have the virus, nor would they all pass it. And if people do the same things as those other families by not letting covidiots back in the house after a party, then it still lowers who catches it. And then, the covidiots will just kill each other off by then getting it and dying. Or suffering for a while and realizing it's pretty bad. Which brings up something else. Some, people are covidiots because it hasn't affected them or their family. All some of them need is to see someone they know get it, and then they'll realize it's real. Which can easily be done without killing millions of people... Also, this who things reeks of "The ends justifies the means" kind of logic. Which I've never fully agreed with... Especially in this case where you'd most likely kill more people than you'd save... Accrovideogames posted...</cite> <quote>Because what the covidiots are doing aren't already a horrific mass murder?</quote> Well, no. It's not like only covidiots catch or pass it. And mass murder for what they are doing is a ridiculous assumption. The people who are pushing the button are actually commiting mass murder, though. And on a horrific scale...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/30/20 9:16:49 PM #54:	SunWuKung420 posted... TC thinks "presumed" is a valid statistic. Lol COVID-19 deniers are the worse. --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944020391] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>TC thinks "presumed" is a valid statistic. Lol</quote>COVID-19 deniers are the worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 9:19:34 PM #55:	TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid. Inflated numbers are inflated. Science doesn't assume or presume unless you are building a hypothesis. --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944020496] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid. Inflated numbers are inflated. Science doesn't assume or presume unless you are building a hypothesis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 08/30/20 9:29:31 PM #56:	SunWuKung420 posted... TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid. Inflated numbers are inflated. Science doesn't assume or presume unless you are building a hypothesis. There are over 200,000 more people dead so far this year than in a normal year. So if it's not COVID-19, what is it? https://www.sciencealert.com/2020-has-killed-up-to-200-000-extra-people-in-the-us-so-far --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:944020866] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid. Inflated numbers are inflated. Science doesn't assume or presume unless you are building a hypothesis.</quote>There are over 200,000 more people dead so far this year than in a normal year. So if it's not COVID-19, what is it? https://www.sciencealert.com/2020-has-killed-up-to-200-000-extra-people-in-the-us-so-far </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/30/20 9:31:00 PM #57:	captpackrat posted... So if it's not COVID-19, what is it? Murder hornets? But really, I mean, its been a pretty shitty year... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:944020930] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>So if it's not COVID-19, what is it?</quote> Murder hornets? But really, I mean, its been a pretty shitty year...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/30/20 9:44:57 PM #58:	LinkPizza posted... You can, but I also read that it's unlikely. Meaning that it could slow down over time... No, the only thing unlikely is that a second infection will kill you. If you survived from it once, you are less likely to die from it. This isn't a guarantee however. The more you get infected, the more likely you'll suffer complications and die from it. To better explain it, I will give you an analogy. Do note that the numbers aren't actually accurate and are only meant as a representation of what I mean. You catch the virus for the first time, your chance of survival is 90%. Should you survive and catch it a second time, your chance of survival is 92%. Should you survive and catch it a third time, your chance of survival is 93%. Should you survive and catch it a fourth time, your chance of survival is 93.5%. This continues on an on. While individually speaking, your chances of survival are higher than the previous time, the risk of dying does increase the more you get infected. Probability of surviving one infection: 90% Probability of surviving two infections in a row: 83% Probability of surviving three infections in a row: 77% Probability of surviving four infections in a row: 72% LinkPizza posted... Just because they haven't made one ye doesn't mean they won't. That's how science works... They eventually make new stuff... And you really want to bet your future on that? They've been trying to find a vaccine for coronaviruses for over 30 years now and they never found one. They've been trying to do the same for AIDS and they still failed repeatedly. No, we need to face reality and accept the truth: there won't be a vaccine. Vaccines only work when acquired immunity exists, and that doesn't exist for COVID-19. Maybe in 500 years we'll find a cure for cancer, AIDS and SARS (aka what COVID-19 actually is), but it won't be a vaccine. SunWuKung420 posted... TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid. And you left out the word "confirmed". --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944021464] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>You can, but I also read that it's unlikely. Meaning that it could slow down over time...</quote>No, the only thing unlikely is that a second infection will kill you. If you survived from it once, you are less likely to die from it. This isn't a guarantee however. The more you get infected, the more likely you'll suffer complications and die from it. To better explain it, I will give you an analogy. Do note that the numbers aren't actually accurate and are only meant as a representation of what I mean. You catch the virus for the first time, your chance of survival is 90%. Should you survive and catch it a second time, your chance of survival is 92%. Should you survive and catch it a third time, your chance of survival is 93%. Should you survive and catch it a fourth time, your chance of survival is 93.5%. This continues on an on. While individually speaking, your chances of survival are higher than the previous time, the risk of dying does increase the more you get infected. Probability of surviving one infection: 90% Probability of surviving two infections in a row: 83% Probability of surviving three infections in a row: 77% Probability of surviving four infections in a row: 72% LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Just because they haven't made one ye doesn't mean they won't. That's how science works... They eventually make new stuff...</quote>And you really want to bet your future on that? They've been trying to find a vaccine for coronaviruses for over 30 years now and they never found one. They've been trying to do the same for AIDS and they still failed repeatedly. No, we need to face reality and accept the truth: there won't be a vaccine. Vaccines only work when acquired immunity exists, and that doesn't exist for COVID-19. Maybe in 500 years we'll find a cure for cancer, AIDS and SARS (aka what COVID-19 actually is), but it won't be a vaccine. SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>TC left that word out (presumed) because it's the nail in the coffin regarding how many people have actually died from covid.</quote>And you left out the word "confirmed". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/30/20 9:48:41 PM #59:	I just found a few articles online while as work that said that while its possible to get it a second time, its unlikely. And no offense, but I think Ill believe the scientist from the article than a random person online... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:944021583] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>I just found a few articles online while as work that said that while its possible to get it a second time, its unlikely. And no offense, but I think Ill believe the scientist from the article than a random person online...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 9:50:47 PM #60:	captpackrat posted... There are over 200,000 more people dead so far this year than in a normal year. So if it's not COVID-19, what is it? https://www.sciencealert.com/2020-has-killed-up-to-200-000-extra-people-in-the-us-so-far There was a lot of people near death this year, coupled with sudden deaths and the 7000 actual covid deaths. We (my family) just lost an uncle to a sudden, non-covid death. Literally sitting near his family on a relaxing vacation day. I should research birth rates from 50-90 years ago (I'm betting it's high) because a lot of those people are going to die soon. That's life. --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944021643] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted... </cite> <quote>There are over 200,000 more people dead so far this year than in a normal year. So if it's not COVID-19, what is it? https://www.sciencealert.com/2020-has-killed-up-to-200-000-extra-people-in-the-us-so-far </quote> There was a lot of people near death this year, coupled with sudden deaths and the 7000 actual covid deaths. We (my family) just lost an uncle to a sudden, non-covid death. Literally sitting near his family on a relaxing vacation day. I should research birth rates from 50-90 years ago (I'm betting it's high) because a lot of those people are going to die soon. That's life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/30/20 9:52:47 PM #61:	LinkPizza posted... I just found a few articles online while as work that said that while its possible to get it a second time, its unlikely. And no offense, but I think Ill believe the scientist from the article than a random person online... Reinfection within a short time frame is indeed unlikely, as you do develop a resistance. But this resistance wears out quickly. I've seen reported cases of reinfection after only one month after surviving a previous one. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/covid-reinfection https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52446965 https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/can-you-get-coronavirus-twice --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944021712] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>I just found a few articles online while as work that said that while its possible to get it a second time, its unlikely. And no offense, but I think Ill believe the scientist from the article than a random person online...</quote>Reinfection within a short time frame is indeed unlikely, as you do develop a resistance. But this resistance wears out quickly. I've seen reported cases of reinfection after only one month after surviving a previous one. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/covid-reinfection https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52446965 https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/can-you-get-coronavirus-twice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 9:53:36 PM #62:	Accrovideogames posted... And you left out the word "confirmed". Combining confirmed and presumed (assumed) in the same scientific statement is the most unscientific thing aside from inventing data. Actually presumed (and assumed) is inventing data so it's not science. --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944021730] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>And you left out the word "confirmed".</quote> Combining confirmed and presumed (assumed) in the same scientific statement is the most unscientific thing aside from inventing data. Actually presumed (and assumed) is inventing data so it's not science. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/30/20 10:01:40 PM #63:	SunWuKung420 posted... Combining confirmed and presumed (assumed) in the same scientific statement is the most unscientific thing aside from inventing data. Actually presumed (and assumed) is inventing data so it's not science. For fuck sake, those (less than) 7,000 deaths in the US are those caused by the flu and the flu only! You keep saying those are the only "actual" COVID-19 deaths when they actually have nothing to do with it. All "presumed" (as you say) COVID-19 deaths were all confirmed to have tested positive to the virus and were caused by SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). They do say "all confirmed and presumed deaths" in the article you posted. They only added the word "presumed" just in case one of those deaths wasn't directly caused by COVID-19 despite the patient having tested positive and having died of SARS. --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944021971] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>Combining confirmed and presumed (assumed) in the same scientific statement is the most unscientific thing aside from inventing data. Actually presumed (and assumed) is inventing data so it's not science.</quote>For fuck sake, those (less than) 7,000 deaths in the US are those caused by the flu and the flu only! You keep saying those are the only "actual" COVID-19 deaths when they actually have nothing to do with it. All "presumed" (as you say) COVID-19 deaths were all confirmed to have tested positive to the virus and were caused by SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). They do say "all confirmed and presumed deaths" in the article you posted. They only added the word "presumed" just in case one of those deaths wasn't directly caused by COVID-19 despite the patient having tested positive and having died of SARS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 08/30/20 10:04:23 PM #64:	The table that SWK linked to prove his point completely disproves his point... --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:944022053] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>The table that SWK linked to prove his point completely disproves his point... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/30/20 10:05:49 PM #65:	papercup posted... The table that SWK linked to prove his point completely disproves his point... He's in denial, a serious case of denial. It's just like the Holocaust deniers, the flat earth idiots, the anti-vaxxers, etc. --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944022097] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite> <quote>The table that SWK linked to prove his point completely disproves his point...</quote>He's in denial, a serious case of denial. It's just like the Holocaust deniers, the flat earth idiots, the anti-vaxxers, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 10:10:14 PM #66:	ITT: people who can't read and don't understand data. --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944022219] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>ITT: people who can't read and don't understand data. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 08/30/20 10:13:30 PM #67:	Regardless, TC still thinks mass murdering more people than covid is ok. Psycho --- You should ask me how I can help you help yourself. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:944022308] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Regardless, TC still thinks mass murdering more people than covid is ok. Psycho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/31/20 1:14:47 AM #68:	Accrovideogames posted... But there will NEVER be a vaccine. The search for one is a delusion, a fairy tale. You have to be less blatant in your trolling, makes it too easy to figure out. Accrovideogames posted... Except that would kill a lot of innocent people. But you pretend to care about lives being put at risk. What about THOSE innocent lives? And unlike the people currently infected, they've been trying to not get infected whereas a lot of people infected right now either went into high risk fields (first responders), didn't take adequate precautions, etc. If you claim to want to stop the virus, why wouldn't you want to do that? Unlike your harebrained scheme, that would actually end COVID and ensure that nobody else was impacted ever again. Or you could just use the magical button to get rid of COVID itself. Sounds to me like you just want to mass murder and don't give a shit about human lives being saved. Then again, anybody sociopathic enough to suggest mass murder would be incapable of human empathy. Accrovideogames posted... These patients would rather leave the hospital and infect as many people as they can. And it's not just the medical staff, there are terrorists spitting and coughing on food for the "lulz" because they want to infect people. And you seem to be advocating mass infection because you don't want to use your magic button to end COVID and just want to kill more people than would ever be killed by COVID. By your revised definitions, you would be killing 60-70% of the planet. You, sir, are worse than Thanos! Accrovideogames posted... Even if you do everything to avoid contracting the virus, there's a very small chance that you'll be extremely unlucky and still get infected. Personally, I assume that everyone including myself could be infected, so I always keep my distance, don't touch my face, wash my hands, wear a mask, etc. But I don't live alone, and while everyone in my household take the necessary precautions, you never know what could happen. I met my fair share of assholes who wouldn't respect my personal space and who wouldn't wear a mask despite it being illegal where I live. I deliver food to the elderly, it's volunteered work (I don't get paid) and I've been doing it since before the pandemic started. I'd rather only the evil ones get killed instead of risking a single innocent life. And you could avoid ALL of that risk by using your button to take the disease itself out of circulation, rather than kill most of the planet and let the disease infect more people. More importantly, you claim that you're taking proper precaution then outright admit that you're not taking enough precautions. Your covidiocy risks spreading the disease. And factoring in people who THINK that they're on the right side but aren't taking proper precautions, you might as well use your button 90% of the population... at which point there may still be some COVID left, but more importantly, society would collapse and a new dark age would start. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:944026904] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>But there will NEVER be a vaccine. The search for one is a delusion, a fairy tale.</quote> You have to be less blatant in your trolling, makes it too easy to figure out. Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>Except that would kill a lot of innocent people.</quote> But you pretend to care about lives being put at risk. What about THOSE innocent lives? And unlike the people currently infected, they've been trying to not get infected whereas a lot of people infected right now either went into high risk fields (first responders), didn't take adequate precautions, etc. If you claim to want to stop the virus, why wouldn't you want to do that? Unlike your harebrained scheme, that would actually end COVID and ensure that nobody else was impacted ever again. Or you could just use the magical button to get rid of COVID itself. Sounds to me like you just want to mass murder and don't give a shit about human lives being saved. Then again, anybody sociopathic enough to suggest mass murder would be incapable of human empathy. Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>These patients would rather leave the hospital and infect as many people as they can. And it's not just the medical staff, there are terrorists spitting and coughing on food for the "lulz" because they want to infect people.</quote> And you seem to be advocating mass infection because you don't want to use your magic button to end COVID and just want to kill more people than would ever be killed by COVID. By your revised definitions, you would be killing 60-70% of the planet. You, sir, are worse than Thanos! Accrovideogames posted... </cite> <quote>Even if you do everything to avoid contracting the virus, there's a very small chance that you'll be extremely unlucky and still get infected. Personally, I assume that everyone including myself could be infected, so I always keep my distance, don't touch my face, wash my hands, wear a mask, etc. But I don't live alone, and while everyone in my household take the necessary precautions, you never know what could happen. I met my fair share of assholes who wouldn't respect my personal space and who wouldn't wear a mask despite it being illegal where I live. I deliver food to the elderly, it's volunteered work (I don't get paid) and I've been doing it since before the pandemic started. I'd rather only the evil ones get killed instead of risking a single innocent life.</quote> And you could avoid ALL of that risk by using your button to take the disease itself out of circulation, rather than kill most of the planet and let the disease infect more people. More importantly, you claim that you're taking proper precaution then outright admit that you're not taking enough precautions. Your covidiocy risks spreading the disease. And factoring in people who THINK that they're on the right side but aren't taking proper precautions, you might as well use your button 90% of the population... at which point there may still be some COVID left, but more importantly, society would collapse and a new dark age would start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/31/20 2:01:17 AM #69:	Clench281 posted... No I'm not a psychopath Sociopathy >>> psychopathy. Psychopaths are mentally ill. Sociopaths get results. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:944027906] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>No I'm not a psychopath</quote>Sociopathy >>> psychopathy. Psychopaths are mentally ill. Sociopaths get results. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fishy071 08/31/20 4:23:17 AM #70:	No. I think it will be dangerous. --- "You don't need a reason to help people." (Zidane Tribal of FFIX) <cite>fishy071 posted [p:944029864] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>No. I think it will be dangerous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 08/31/20 7:22:44 AM #71:	The US population is 330,000,000 or so. 200,000 really isn't a lot. I mean I'm not gonna say something stupid like the virus isn't a threat; just that maybe the hysteria surrounding it is a bit overblown. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:944031897] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>The US population is 330,000,000 or so. 200,000 really isn't a lot. I mean I'm not gonna say something stupid like the virus isn't a threat; just that maybe the hysteria surrounding it is a bit overblown. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 08/31/20 9:47:43 AM #72:	Unbridled9 posted... The US population is 330,000,000 or so. 200,000 really isn't a lot. I mean I'm not gonna say something stupid like the virus isn't a threat; just that maybe the hysteria surrounding it is a bit overblown. That's 67 9/11s. That's double the number of Americans killed in military actions since WWII, and more than 2/3 the number of American combat deaths in WWII. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:944034685] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>The US population is 330,000,000 or so. 200,000 really isn't a lot. I mean I'm not gonna say something stupid like the virus isn't a threat; just that maybe the hysteria surrounding it is a bit overblown.</quote> That's 67 9/11s. That's double the number of Americans killed in military actions since WWII, and more than 2/3 the number of American combat deaths in WWII. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancer62 08/31/20 10:27:37 AM #73:	captpackrat posted... That's 67 9/11s. That's double the number of Americans killed in military actions since WWII, and more than 2/3 the number of American combat deaths in WWII. One-third the number that die annually from heart disease, half the number that die from cancer, about the same as die from respiratory disease. Three times the annual seasonal flu death toll, nearly twice the annual deaths from traffic accidents. About the same number that die annually from medication errors. Certainly worth panic and wrecking the economy. --- If ballet was easy, it would be pointe-less <cite>dancer62 posted [p:944035717] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted... </cite> <quote>That's 67 9/11s. That's double the number of Americans killed in military actions since WWII, and more than 2/3 the number of American combat deaths in WWII.</quote>One-third the number that die annually from heart disease, half the number that die from cancer, about the same as die from respiratory disease. Three times the annual seasonal flu death toll, nearly twice the annual deaths from traffic accidents. About the same number that die annually from medication errors. Certainly worth panic and wrecking the economy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accrovideogames 08/31/20 10:36:06 AM #74:	Zeus posted... You have to be less blatant in your trolling, makes it too easy to figure out. When Zeus calls someone a troll, that person must be doing something right. Zeus posted... And you seem to be advocating mass infection because you don't want to use your magic button to end COVID and just want to kill more people than would ever be killed by COVID. The dilemma I posed was whether or not you would sacrifice all the covidiots to save humanity. Without the covidiots who keep spreading the virus, the pandemic would be contained within a few weeks. The number of new cases would drop significantly until it became zero. Of course I would magically end COVID-19 without killing anyone if it was possible, but that's not what the philosophical question is about. The whole point of this topic is to be a thought experiment, one that poses an ethical dilemma. A popular ethical dilemma is the trolley problem. There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You have two options: Do nothing and allow the trolley to kill the five people on the main track. Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person. Which is the more ethical option? Or, more simply: What is the right thing to do? Personally, I would pull the lever. What would you do? My choice would actually differ if new variables were added. For example, if the five people were strangers and the single person a loved one, I would selfishly do nothing. If the five people were old and didn't have much time left, and the single person is a baby, I would do nothing. If the five people chose to be there with the intention of committing suicide, while the single person just happened to be there, I would do nothing. I think you get the idea. Zeus posted... By your revised definitions, you would be killing 60-70% of the planet. You, sir, are worse than Thanos! I'm pretty sure covidiots are a minority. And Thanos' plan is to randomly wipe out half of the planet's population without any discrimination. If wiping out half of the human population was inevitable (in Thanos's case, there's a third option) and I was offered the chance to choose who live and who die, I would start making a list of criteria. Zeus posted... More importantly, you claim that you're taking proper precaution then outright admit that you're not taking enough precautions. Your covidiocy risks spreading the disease. And factoring in people who THINK that they're on the right side but aren't taking proper precautions, you might as well use your button 90% of the population... at which point there may still be some COVID left, but more importantly, society would collapse and a new dark age would start. No, I'm taking all the necessary precautions. Some people around me who also take their precautions think I'm exaggerating. I take the pandemic extremely seriously. I only go out when absolutely necessary. I barely leave home, I don't see any friends, I don't do any activities, I do nothing. The only times I leave is for important groceries I can't order online, and when I'm out to save old people from starvation. I started wearing a mask as soon as the pandemic started. The problem is that it doesn't matter how many precautions I take, there's always the risk that some drunk asshole runs me over while I'm on the sidewalk. You may be wearing your seat belt and never going over the speed limit, you never know if some asshole is going to burn a red light and crash into your car. --- I'm French speaking. 30/Male/Quebec <cite>Accrovideogames posted [p:944035951] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>You have to be less blatant in your trolling, makes it too easy to figure out.</quote>When Zeus calls someone a troll, that person must be doing something right. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>And you seem to be advocating mass infection because you don't want to use your magic button to end COVID and just want to kill more people than would ever be killed by COVID.</quote>The dilemma I posed was whether or not you would sacrifice all the covidiots to save humanity. Without the covidiots who keep spreading the virus, the pandemic would be contained within a few weeks. The number of new cases would drop significantly until it became zero. Of course I would magically end COVID-19 without killing anyone if it was possible, but that's not what the philosophical question is about. The whole point of this topic is to be a thought experiment, one that poses an ethical dilemma. A popular ethical dilemma is the trolley problem. There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is one person on the side track. You have two options: Do nothing and allow the trolley to kill the five people on the main track.Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person.Which is the more ethical option? Or, more simply: What is the right thing to do? Personally, I would pull the lever. What would you do? My choice would actually differ if new variables were added. For example, if the five people were strangers and the single person a loved one, I would selfishly do nothing. If the five people were old and didn't have much time left, and the single person is a baby, I would do nothing. If the five people chose to be there with the intention of committing suicide, while the single person just happened to be there, I would do nothing. I think you get the idea. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>By your revised definitions, you would be killing 60-70% of the planet. You, sir, are worse than Thanos!</quote>I'm pretty sure covidiots are a minority. And Thanos' plan is to randomly wipe out half of the planet's population without any discrimination. If wiping out half of the human population was inevitable (in Thanos's case, there's a third option) and I was offered the chance to choose who live and who die, I would start making a list of criteria. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>More importantly, you claim that you're taking proper precaution then outright admit that you're not taking enough precautions. Your covidiocy risks spreading the disease. And factoring in people who THINK that they're on the right side but aren't taking proper precautions, you might as well use your button 90% of the population... at which point there may still be some COVID left, but more importantly, society would collapse and a new dark age would start.</quote>No, I'm taking all the necessary precautions. Some people around me who also take their precautions think I'm exaggerating. I take the pandemic extremely seriously. I only go out when absolutely necessary. I barely leave home, I don't see any friends, I don't do any activities, I do nothing. The only times I leave is for important groceries I can't order online, and when I'm out to save old people from starvation. I started wearing a mask as soon as the pandemic started. The problem is that it doesn't matter how many precautions I take, there's always the risk that some drunk asshole runs me over while I'm on the sidewalk. You may be wearing your seat belt and never going over the speed limit, you never know if some asshole is going to burn a red light and crash into your car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 08/31/20 11:17:29 AM #75:	dancer62 posted... Certainly worth panic and wrecking the economy. Those numbers are despite closing everything down. If we'd done nothing at all the numbers would certainly have been worse. And with the health care system completely overwhelmed people would be dying from normally survivable things like car accidents, broken bones, heart attacks, etc. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:944037088] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>dancer62 posted... </cite> <quote>Certainly worth panic and wrecking the economy.</quote> Those numbers are despite closing everything down. If we'd done nothing at all the numbers would certainly have been worse. And with the health care system completely overwhelmed people would be dying from normally survivable things like car accidents, broken bones, heart attacks, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancer62 08/31/20 11:24:13 AM #76:	captpackrat posted... Those numbers are despite closing everything down. If we'd done nothing at all the numbers would certainly have been worse. And with the health care system completely overwhelmed people would be dying from normally survivable things like car accidents, broken bones, heart attacks, etc. Yes, indeed, in spite of politically correct magic charms like bandito bandanas and standing six feet apart in grocery aisles. --- If ballet was easy, it would be pointe-less <cite>dancer62 posted [p:944037268] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted... </cite> <quote>Those numbers are despite closing everything down. If we'd done nothing at all the numbers would certainly have been worse. And with the health care system completely overwhelmed people would be dying from normally survivable things like car accidents, broken bones, heart attacks, etc.</quote>Yes, indeed, in spite of politically correct magic charms like bandito bandanas and standing six feet apart in grocery aisles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 08/31/20 11:31:34 AM #77:	WastelandCowboy posted... No. Killing people regardless of their actions is wrong. You are not the judge, jury, and executioner. Only judge dredd can kill people --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:944037500] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>WastelandCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>No. Killing people regardless of their actions is wrong. You are not the judge, jury, and executioner.</quote>Only judge dredd can kill people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieTheReckless 08/31/20 11:43:31 AM #78:	The LAAaaaWWwwww <cite>ReggieTheReckless posted [p:944037881] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>The LAAaaaWWwwww </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJ StErOiDs 08/31/20 1:36:50 PM #79:	No way. --- A plethora of DKC-related fanart to numb your mind: http://kjsteroids.deviantart.com <cite>KJ StErOiDs posted [p:944041827] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>No way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 08/31/20 1:41:08 PM #80:	dancer62 posted... Yes, indeed, in spite of politically correct magic charms like bandito bandanas and standing six feet apart in grocery aisles. Not to mention other stupid shit like washing your hands and practicing basic hygiene. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:944041986] in If you pre... [t:78942943]...</cite> <quote>dancer62 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, indeed, in spite of politically correct magic charms like bandito bandanas and standing six feet apart in grocery aisles.</quote>Not to mention other stupid shit like washing your hands and practicing basic hygiene. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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