Poll of the Day > If you press this button, all covidiots will die in their sleep.

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Why die in their sleep? Because if they have to drop dead now, collateral casualties could be involved, e.g. if one of them is driving a vehicle. This is based on a popular philosophical question. Are you willing to sacrifice all the bad apples to save humanity?

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Do I have to push it immediately or can I wait for it to propagate further?

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No. Killing people regardless of their actions is wrong. You are not the judge, jury, and executioner.

What's a covidiot?

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SpeedDemon20 posted...

Do I have to push it immediately or can I wait for it to propagate further?

What do you mean? This is about killing covidiots, not people infected with COVID-19. Covidiots are people who deny the pandemic, don't practice social distancing, don't wear a mask, don't give a shit about getting infected and infecting other people, etc.

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I'm not a murderer.

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I'd want to, but wouldn't do it. There are far more COVID deniers and anti maskers than there are people who will die from it. Millions of people are going to die because of them, but that's their burden to hold. I don't want the burden of knowing I killed hundreds of millions of stupid people.

If everyone had acted like I did, this would have been over by May at the absolute latest. People are fucking stupid.

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WastelandCowboy posted...

No. Killing people regardless of their actions is wrong. You are not the judge, jury, and executioner.

Tell that to the 840,000+ people who died of it in less than a year, which is more than the Holocaust's death rate.

faramir77 posted...

I'd want to, but wouldn't do it. There are far more COVID deniers and anti maskers than there are people who will die from it. Millions of people are going to die because of them, but that's their burden to hold. I don't want the burden of knowing I killed hundreds of millions of stupid people.

That's understandable, but would you still say that if people you loved actually died because of them? Instead of focusing on the number of deaths you'd cause, you should focus on the number of lives you'd save. Should you kill all mass murderers before they have a chance to kill innocent people?

faramir77 posted...

If everyone had acted like I did, this would have been over by May at the absolute latest. People are fucking stupid.

And thanks to those stupid people, the pandemic will never end.

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Accrovideogames posted...

What do you mean? This is about killing covidiots, not people infected with COVID-19. Covidiots are people who deny the pandemic, don't practice social distancing, don't wear a mask, don't give a shit about getting infected and infecting other people, etc.

I'll wait a few days for it to propagate further.

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SpeedDemon20 posted...

I'll wait a few days for it to propagate further.

Do you realize that this makes you a covidiot and that pressing the button will also cause your death?

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Accrovideogames posted...

Do you realize that this makes you a covidiot and that pressing the button will also cause your death?

I see this as an absolute win!

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Maybe the real covidiots was the friends we made along the way.

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Nope...
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Accrovideogames posted...

Tell that to the 840,000+ people who died of it in less than a year, which is more than the Holocaust's death rate.

People die. That's a fact of life. You're born, you live, you die. It's unfortunate that this pandemic has killed so many people across the world, but that's the point of a disease - to infect the host. Whether or not they die is up to their body.

You, however, have the choice to kill these people. Unlike Covid-19, you know the consequences of killing these people. Covid-19 doesn't know the consequences. It just acts without conscience.

I'd rather have a button that kills all of the sorts of people who use the term "covidiot".
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PO please no I was using the term facetiously

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Do I also get a million dollars for each person I kill?

WastelandCowboy posted...

People die. That's a fact of life. You're born, you live, you die. It's unfortunate that this pandemic has killed so many people across the world, but that's the point of a disease - to infect the host. Whether or not they die is up to their body. You, however, have the choice to kill these people. Unlike Covid-19, you know the consequences of killing these people. Covid-19 doesn't know the consequences. It just acts without conscience.

But you have people who choose to further spread the disease and disregard human lives. Would you rather allow them to continue murdering innocent lives? Would you kill a spree killer to save future victims?

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Accrovideogames posted...

But you have people who choose to further spread the disease and disregard human lives. Would you rather allow them to continue murdering innocent lives? Would you kill a spree killer to save future victims?

You'd have to know they were going to kill someone, though. Not all of them will be responsible for the spread. While some don't care about the disease, it doesn't matter if they don't really go many places, anyway. If they never catch or spread it, then you'd be killing someone who is technically innocent. Or killing kids who just trust what their parents tell them. Personally, I'm not about killing anyone, anyway. I'll let others handle it. If someone else wants to just go around killing whoever, including innocent people, then they can. But I wouldn't, nor would I help them to do it...
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LinkPizza posted...

You'd have to know they were going to kill someone, though. Not all of them will be responsible for the spread. While some don't care about the disease, it doesn't matter if they don't really go many places, anyway. If they never catch or spread it, then you'd be killing someone who is technically innocent.

When someone blindfolds himself, spins around and repeatedly shoots in random directions, there's no guarantee that he'll kill someone. Is someone drinking and driving innocent even if he doesn't kill anyone? A covidiot also doesn't need to catch the virus and spread it to kill people, simply spreading misinformation is putting people's lives at risk.

LinkPizza posted...

Or killing kids who just trust what their parents tell them.

I agree that killing kids who blindly believe their stupid parents is tragic. Even if you could argue that it's no different than blaming the parents of a murderous sociopath instead of the sociopath himself, I would actually feel sad for the kids in question. Pedophiles are more often than not former victims of pedophilia themselves. If you get raped as a child, there's a good chance you'll do the same once you grow into an adult. We repeat what we're told and shown, so is such a pedophile innocent? If it can make you feel better about sacrificing those kids, you can think of it as their parents being responsible for their deaths, not you.

LinkPizza posted...

Personally, I'm not about killing anyone, anyway. I'll let others handle it. If someone else wants to just go around killing whoever, including innocent people, then they can. But I wouldn't, nor would I help them to do it...

What if the people they kill are your loved ones and/or you? Would you still let them do it? And turning a blind eye can be argued as being the same as helping them. I recently read an article that compared people denying COVID-19 to those who turned a blind eye during WWII. After the war, allied soldiers forced people who were living peacefully and plowing their yard near concentration camps to come see the suffering they allowed to happen. The writer of the article suggested doing the same with covidiots, forcing them to visit hospitals and see how much people are suffering from the virus, that medical staff are risking their lives, and that their stupid behaviors are allowing this to happen. I unfortunately couldn't find the article, but I remember it was written around the time the pandemic started.

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Yes, no hesitation, ok?

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Accrovideogames posted...

When someone blindfolds himself, spins around and repeatedly shoots in random directions, there's no guarantee that he'll kill someone.

True. And if he never kills anyone, he won't get charged with murder/manslaughter. He might get charged with something else, though. As what he did is probably another crime...

Accrovideogames posted...

Is someone drinking and driving innocent even if he doesn't kill anyone?

Innocent of murder/manslaughter? Yes. But they have committed a different crime. Drinking while driving. So, they would be in trouble for that instead...

Accrovideogames posted...

A covidiot also doesn't need to catch the virus and spread it to kill people, simply spreading misinformation is putting people's lives at risk.

Spreading information is bad. But it doesn't mean that people will actually listen to them. And that's if they're even spreading bad info. If the "covidiot" is someone who doesn't leave their house or talk to anybody, then in the end, they are still innocent...

Accrovideogames posted...

I agree that killing kids who blindly believe their stupid parents is tragic. Even if you could argue that it's no different than blaming the parents of a murderous sociopath instead of the sociopath himself, I would actually feel sad for the kids in question. Pedophiles are more often than not former victims of pedophilia themselves. If you get raped as a child, there's a good chance you'll do the same once you grow into an adult. We repeat what we're told and shown, so is such a pedophile innocent? If it can make you feel better about sacrificing those kids, you can think of it as their parents being responsible for their deaths, not you.

A pedophile isn't innocent. You can be both a victim and a perpetrator. So, they even though they were a victim when younger, they are still a perpetrator. And it doesn't matter to me still. Just because I could try to lie to myself about not being the killer doesn't make it so. So, my answer is still no. I'm not a killer, and won't act like lying to myself is going to work...

Accrovideogames posted...

What if the people they kill are your loved ones and/or you? Would you still let them do it?

Does it matter? Killing them won't bring my loved ones back. It just makes me a murderer who also has no loved ones. So, it doesn't change anything except make me a worse person.

Accrovideogames posted...

And turning a blind eye can be argued as being the same as helping them.

No. Not to me. I'm not spreading anything. And who said I'm turning a blind eye. You can help other ways than by killing them. Unless you're saying that you are also currently helping them since I haven't heard about any mass murderers killing covidiots. You can help others ways, though. Like spreading correct information.

Accrovideogames posted...

I recently read an article that compared people denying COVID-19 to those who turned a blind eye during WWII. After the war, allied soldiers forced people who were living peacefully and plowing their yard near concentration camps to come see the suffering they allowed to happen. The writer of the article suggested doing the same with covidiots, forcing them to visit hospitals and see how much people are suffering from the virus, that medical staff are risking their lives, and that their stupid behaviors are allowing this to happen. I unfortunately couldn't find the article, but I remember it was written around the time the pandemic started.

Sure. They can do that. Better than just killing random people...
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LinkPizza posted...

Does it matter? Killing them won't bring my loved ones back. It just makes me a murderer who also has no loved ones. So, it doesn't change anything except make me a worse person.

But aren't you afraid that your loved ones and/or you will get killed? Don't you want to prevent deaths that could easily be avoided by getting rid of the covidiots who are killing thousands of people everyday? Do you even care about the people who will die tomorrow because of them?

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Accrovideogames posted...

But aren't you afraid that your loved ones and/or you will get killed? Don't you want to prevent deaths that could easily be avoided by getting rid of the covidiots who are killing thousands of people everyday? Do you even care about the people who will die tomorrow because of them?

Im not scared for me. Pretty sure I already had it. Even if I didnt, Im pretty sure Id be fine.

And sure, Im worried for my family. But Im not going to do any preventative killing. Especially since theres no proof that they would be responsible for killing them.

I see no proof that the covidiots are causing thousands of deaths. Nor do I have any proof that killing them would save my loved ones. Its all just assumptions. How do I know people will die tomorrow because of them? The answer is I dont. So, still no. Im not killing anyone...
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LinkPizza posted...

I see no proof that the covidiots are causing thousands of deaths.

Do you even watch the news? They talk about covidiots going to parties and infecting people for the "lulz". In most of these stories, people died.

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Accrovideogames posted...

Do you even watch the news? They talk about covidiots going to parties and infecting people for the "lulz". In most of these stories, people died.

Sure. And some of them do catch it at parties like that. Some obviously already had it, though. Or else it could spread. And theres no way to tell how many of them already had it before. Theres also no way to tell how many people they have it to, if any. They already had some stories of families not letting them back into the house so that they couldnt infect the family. And there were probably a good amount that lived by themselves, or with a roommate who was with them. For all we know, they are mostly killing themselves without our help instead of killing innocent people.

In the end, we could talk about this all day. But nothing you say will make me push the button to kill who knows how many people. Especially since a majority of them could be innocent. Being stupid isnt a crime. And I wont just kill someone for it. If that gets your rocks off, more power to you. Killing people isnt my thing...
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>Claims to be concerned about mass casualties
>Literally advocates murdering more people than have died of COVID

As far as wildly offensive troll topics go, it's a good one. It's doubly fun since this is one of those topics that shows the hypocrisy of the mod team, since you're literally advocating mass murder on a scale that conceivably dwarfs every other mass murder in history.

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Sorry I wasnt listening

I pushed this button tho lol

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SpeedDemon20 posted...

I see this as an absolute win!

You know, drinking bleach is really inexpensive.

Zeus posted...

>Claims to be concerned about mass casualties
>Literally advocates murdering more people than have died of COVID

As far as wildly offensive troll topics go, it's a good one. It's doubly fun since this is one of those topics that shows the hypocrisy of the mod team, since you're literally advocating mass murder on a scale that conceivably dwarfs every other mass murder in history.

Yeah, umm, if we don't force evolution to happen then it isn't going to and it really needs to.

This is like the trolly problem

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CarefreeDude posted...

This is like the trolly problem

I can see that...
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Arcturusisnow posted...

Yeah, umm, if we don't force evolution to happen then it isn't going to and it really needs to.

Getting infected and surviving is evolution. You, literally advocating for mass murder, isn't.

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No. I don't wish folk dead due to their beliefs. Providing it's legal.

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I don't think more dead people is the solution

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LinkPizza posted...

In the end, we could talk about this all day. But nothing you say will make me push the button to kill who knows how many people. Especially since a majority of them could be innocent. Being stupid isnt a crime. And I wont just kill someone for it. If that gets your rocks off, more power to you. Killing people isnt my thing...

That's fair. I may disagree with you but most of your arguments are understandable.

Zeus posted...

>Claims to be concerned about mass casualties
>Literally advocates murdering more people than have died of COVID

As far as wildly offensive troll topics go, it's a good one. It's doubly fun since this is one of those topics that shows the hypocrisy of the mod team, since you're literally advocating mass murder on a scale that conceivably dwarfs every other mass murder in history.

But most people would actually press that button, so it's a popular opinion. And there's a difference between executing murderers to save humanity and allow this pandemic to continue forever, killing more and more innocent people. Would you say the same if we were in 1944 and I was advocating executing every single Nazis on the planet?

As long as covidiots are around, this pandemic will never end. Are you actually willing to live like this for the rest of your life? There will never be a vaccine, scientists have been trying to find one for coronaviruses for decades now and one was never found. A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. Acquired immunity is what you get after surviving an infection (that is, if you survive). Not all pathogens grant acquired immunity. Examples of those that do are the flu, tetanus, polio, measles, smallpox, etc. Before you say something stupid like "but I was vaccinated against the flu and still got it", be aware that there are thousands of strands of flu, so you may be immune to one but not another.

Unfortunately, our immune systems can't develop immunity for coronaviruses. This means that even if you survive it, you may catch it over and over again. The only way to get rid of this virus altogether is by quarantining. If everyone had done that, the pandemic would have been over only two weeks after it started. This is what I mean by saving humanity. Unless you can convince everyone to quarantine, it will never end. But since covidiots exist, everyone has to suffer forever.

Remember the "over-exaggeration" over A-H1N1 back in 2009? It was a particularly deadly type of flu. It was responsible for the deaths of 50 million people in 1918-1919. More than 50% of the population contracted it during that century old pandemic because no one was practicing social distancing. It's also much less deadly than COVID-19, so just imagine how the world would be like if governments weren't enforcing quarantining measures? So how come humanity wasn't wiped out in 1918? That's because once someone survived the infection, they got acquired immunity. If it wasn't for that, we would still be suffering from it.

After having calculated the difference in death rate between A-H1N1 and COVID-19, if we weren't practicing social distancing, over 180 million people would be dead by the end of this year. The number of deaths would gradually become lower until only a few millions were killed each year by the virus. The reason for this is because not everyone dies from it. Those who survive it once would keep getting infected over and over again until they grow too weak or too old to be able to survive it anymore. Our life expectancy would drastically lower (approximately 65 years old). Combined with a much higher infantile death rate, our population would be significantly lower. And don't forget that a high percentage of survivors develop permanent damage, so we'll have more and more people suffering from chronic respiratory diseases. The world would truly be a horrible place to live in.

If you think pressing that button is evil, there's something wrong with you. At the very least, I'm relieved to see that a majority of voters would actually press it.

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no, I dont want to kill people because Im not a fucking murdering psychopath.

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papercup posted...

I don't think more dead people is the solution

I dunno man

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Arcturusisnow posted...

Yeah, umm, if we don't force evolution to happen then it isn't going to and it really needs to.

That's not evolution, it's a really weird form of what's intended to be eugenics but fails spectacularly. If you actually wanted to "force evolution," you'd simply let the disease play out with no intervention at all and the survivors would ultimately become immune. It would also be a shitty plan, but that would actually change humanity whereas your plan for all of the tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions) it kills ultimately wouldn't do anything to evolve humans.

Accrovideogames posted...

But most people would actually press that button, so it's a popular opinion.

Overlooking the fact that your statement is glaringly wrong and even most of the people who claim they'd do in here wouldn't do it (except the true sociopaths), even if it was a popular opinion, what bearing does that have on anything? You're proposing trying to save MAYBE a million people (probably far less than that, since we aren't even at a million now) by executing tens if not hundreds of millions.

The rest of your post is equally nonsensical, stupid, and things that would get most people suspended. I wouldn't even risk quoting some of your nonsense although, I should note, that in your 1940s example, you aren't on the side you think you are. Most importantly, however, is that your plan to murder over a hundred million people (possibly several hundred million, given that you're saying anybody who doesn't social distance) would do little or nothing to actually stop COVID. Until a vaccine comes out or people build a natural herd immunity (which, by the way, is IMPEDED by trying to limit exposure meaning it can potentially drag out forever without a vaccine... which people are apparently opposed to because they're complaining about Trump's vaccine development), it's going to be an issue. Conversely, if you said "eliminate everybody who currently has COVID," then that would *actually* get rid of COVID and do it with maybe a quarter of the casualties that your idiotic plan would inflict (although obviously you're not serious because it's almost impossible to have an idea as dumb as this topic), although that would still be a horrific mass murder.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMIgth1OTs

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how about elderly/compromised/cowards stay home. let other people work and shop if they want to
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No. Because what about the people who didn't commit crimes deserving of death, got harsher punishments than they deserved, falsely accused, or whatever similar things might qualify. Not every crime is deserving of death and the way this is phrased seems to imply that basically anyone ever convicted, even if they were innocent or served their time, will be killed. So no, I will not push the button.

Edit: I just realized that this was talking about Covid Idiots instead of convicts. At that point NO! No way in freaking heck would I press that button! It's not the freaking plague or something. Even if you catch it you're more than likely to survive. I want people to wear masks and socially distance but killing someone for refusing is just a mile and a half off the deep end!

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Zeus posted...

Until a vaccine comes out or people build a natural herd immunity

But there will NEVER be a vaccine. The search for one is a delusion, a fairy tale.

Zeus posted...

Conversely, if you said "eliminate everybody who currently has COVID," then that would *actually* get rid of COVID and do it with maybe a quarter of the casualties that your idiotic plan would inflict

Except that would kill a lot of innocent people. There are people risking their lives to save patients in hospitals, those people are heroes and yet they still get infected because some patients are uncooperative and spitting on medical staff for holding them captive against their wills. These patients would rather leave the hospital and infect as many people as they can. And it's not just the medical staff, there are terrorists spitting and coughing on food for the "lulz" because they want to infect people. Even the people who are smart enough (i.e. the majority) to practice social distancing measures are at risk of contracting the virus because of those terrorists.

Even if you do everything to avoid contracting the virus, there's a very small chance that you'll be extremely unlucky and still get infected. Personally, I assume that everyone including myself could be infected, so I always keep my distance, don't touch my face, wash my hands, wear a mask, etc. But I don't live alone, and while everyone in my household take the necessary precautions, you never know what could happen. I met my fair share of assholes who wouldn't respect my personal space and who wouldn't wear a mask despite it being illegal where I live. I deliver food to the elderly, it's volunteered work (I don't get paid) and I've been doing it since before the pandemic started. I'd rather only the evil ones get killed instead of risking a single innocent life.

Zeus posted...

that would still be a horrific mass murder.

Because what the covidiots are doing aren't already a horrific mass murder?

Krazy_Kirby posted...

how about elderly/compromised/cowards stay home. let other people work and shop if they want to

So you want them to stay home indefinitely? Because as long as covidiots exist, the pandemic will never end.

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>CDC releases data with less than 7000 covid deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

>TC advocates for mass murder

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SunWuKung420 posted...

>CDC releases data with less than 7000 covid deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

>TC advocates for mass murder

That link states there have been nearly 170k US COVID deaths, and outright acknowledges the real number is higher because deaths are reported through this several days after they've happened, and that some states only report once per month.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxwGi8bTO8

Remember that pressing the button would get rid of these people.

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faramir77 posted...

That link states there have been nearly 170k US COVID deaths, and outright acknowledges the real number is higher because deaths are reported through this several days after they've happened, and that some states only report once per month.

"Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD10 code U07.1" are 170k.

"Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death." are less than 7k.


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No I'm not a psychopath

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Absolutely. Its horrible how many people just dont think or dont care about possibly killing the people around them or even their family members! During the last pandemic, people were told to wear a mask and they all did it, no one questioned it at all.

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