Current Events > Okay, we have to stop with this group think bull shit

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A lot of you really need to stop with this BS about group think. Portland, BLM, Antifa, Proud Boys, black people, white people, women, men, ect, ect. All women do not think the same, all black people do not think the same, not everyone that votes for X agrees with everything X says.

It's f'n pathetic so many people think this way. Focus on people, not groups. This PERSON did this, THAT person did that. Once more and more people understand that, I think things might start getting better. But since the media brainwashes so many people from such an early age, I have a hard time seeing that happen.

You ever give a negative or positive remark for an entire group of people, you're pathetic. That's how we've been kept separate, too many idiots thinking that entire groups are the same.

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To suggest that there is not a group of individuals who are systemically oppressed is problematic however.

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I think an easier way for you to explain your situation is you hate it when people are generalized.

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you're going to have to kill twitter and facebook to stop it TC.

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You better watch it fella. This place don't take kindly to people who don't drink the blue Koolaid.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

To suggest that there is not a group of individuals who are systemically oppressed is problematic however.

No, I'm saying that people hate/like based on group think and not actual people. The Left/Right do this! Look at what the left/right did today! BLM are full of a bunch of thugs! Women always do this! Men always act like this!

It's all over the place

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Bad_Mojo posted...

No, I'm saying that people hate/like based on group think and not actual people. The Left/Right do this! Look at what the left/right did today! BLM are full of a bunch of thugs! Women always do this! Men always act like this!

It's all over the place

welcome to human nature. we've been doing it since literally the beginning of our species. its just worse now that we've got social media to further cloister ourselves in.

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The person who pretended to be a girl with cancer telling people on here how to think. Nice.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

The person who pretended to be a girl with cancer telling people on here how to think. Nice.

I'm not telling anyone how to think, I'm telling them how to act. If you think everyone in a group thinks the same way, you're not very bright.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

The person who pretended to be a girl with cancer telling people on here how to think. Nice.

rekt
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you mean a video clip of three randos acting poorly doesn't represent the entire group?!?!?

But it confirms my biases!
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shockthemonkey posted...

Oh, the person who pretended to be a girl with cancer is telling people how to act. Thats sooooo much better.

The plot thickens

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shockthemonkey posted...

Oh, the person who pretended to be a girl with cancer is telling people how to act. Thats sooooo much better.

Go right ahead and tell me how I'm wrong then, please.

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i hear you TC but unfortunately all of [group i disagree with] is full of evil people who don't think for themselves and only do what their media tells them

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Perhaps you should tell us why anyone should take you seriously in any sort of fashion after you pretended to be a girl with cancer.

Wasn't my question, but hey, this is CE, not many people here don't have good reading comprehension. You're talking about shit that happened like 10 years ago, and for what? Has zero to do with this subject, it only proves you have zero argument against me.

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The Trent posted...

i hear you TC but unfortunately all of [group i disagree with] is full of evil people who don't think for themselves and only do what their media tells them

That is pretty much every group. The good ones, the bad ones, the ones in the middle. It's a joke if you don't understand that.

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I've talked about this issue many many times before. Here's a few things I've learned from this:

People hate to be grouped up with groups even when they share almost the same logic and mantra. Why? I believe it's because it takes away their uniqueness or individualism. Everyone wants to believe they are special in their own way even when they share tons of similarities with a group of people.

Yes it's wrong to group people up and generalize people into thinking they're the one and the same and this should stop but that's just one part of the issue. Over the years of being on the Internet, what I've come to learn is that people LOVE to act like their entitled opinions is the end of all opinions, that their opinion is what the majority would agree on. People love to act like they're speaking on behalf of the world. You see it all the time: "No one likes this game" "Everyone hates this game" "We hate this game" "This game was not made for us". The person is acting like the majority stands with him when factually he should really speak for himself ONLY. Acting like you're speaking for a vast amount of people helps people group and label people together.

The last issue with this is people let others speak for them. If you don't want to be grouped up with this vocal ass dude tryna speak on your behalf then you need to step the fuck up and say something against it.

Vocal dude: We hate this game
You: No, YOU hate this game. Not everyone shares your opinion. Speak for yourself

That's all it takes. Do not LET vocal loud ass people speak for you. You have your own opinion. If you let these people talk their asses out and be all quiet about it then people will group you up with them. And then after people grouped you up with these people will you speak up about being an individual.

So let's gather up my points here:

• Do not group people up together
• Speak for yourself only
• Do not let people speak for you

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shockthemonkey posted...

I can read, I just cant type on my phone very well.

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Vegg, you just really have a problem with dissenting opinions, and you're projecting that into a topic that has nothing to do with it.

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@Veggeta_MAX

Those are all good points, but not really what I'm talking about. Maybe it is, and you just said it a different way?

I'm talking about all the hate that happens in this Country. A lot of it is because people think an entire group is X and another group is Y. Black people do this, men do this, women do this, white people do this, SJWs do this, Proud Boys do this, ect, ect.

BLM is getting bashed because some of their members are causing destruction in Portland. Proud Boys are getting bashed because some of their members are attacking people. Men are getting attacked because some of them sexually harass women, women are getting attacked because some of them are only in it for the money.

That is where are this stupid hate is coming from, idiots too stupid understand that people are people and not entire groups. Not all of the Left are oversensitive people, not everyone on the Right is a racist, not all men are rapists , not all women are gold diggers, not all cops are bastards, not all black people are criminals, not all white people are hateful.

THAT is what is destroying this Country, and it's thanks for social media

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Guide posted...

you just really have a problem with dissenting opinions

Yes I do because some people act like their opinions are facts and they act like they're opinion is incredibly backed up by a ton of people agreeing and they act like their opinions can't be argued and must be accepted.

Guide posted...

and you're projecting that into a topic that has nothing to do with it

It has everything to do with the point of this topic. TC is saying you should judge a person individually and should not think that one person represents a group. While I agree with that statement, it takes more than that to resolve this issue and I've described what I feel that also must be done.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

The person who pretended to be a girl with cancer telling people on here how to think. Nice.

Wait hang on... TC you did this?

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Bad_Mojo posted...

@Veggeta_MAX

Those are all good points, but not really what I'm talking about. Maybe it is, and you just said it a different way?

I'm talking about all the hate that happens in this Country. A lot of it is because people think an entire group is X and another group is Y. Black people do this, men do this, women do this, white people do this, SJWs do this, Proud Boys do this, ect, ect.

BLM is getting bashed because some of their members are causing destruction in Portland. Proud Boys are getting bashed because some of their members are attacking people. Men are getting attacked because some of them sexually harass women, women are getting attacked because some of them are only in it for the money.

That is where are this stupid hate is coming from, idiots too stupid understand that people are people and not entire groups. Not all of the Left are oversensitive people, not everyone on the Right is a racist, not all men are rapists , not all women are gold diggers, not all cops are bastards, not all black people are criminals, not all white people are hateful.

THAT is what is destroying this Country, and it's thanks for social media

I agree with the point of your topic but I just wanted to add that for people to not generalized others than they must also not speak for others and not let others speak for them because I believe that's what help causes the whole generalizing issue.

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Jiggy101011 posted...

Wait hang on... TC you did this?

About 10 years ago now, yeah. I've apologized countless times, yet people still bring it up. I don't mind it, I deserve the hate for it, but it's really fucking stupid to do it to try and discredit my opinion when they have nothing else to say. It's just pathetic.

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Bad_Mojo posted...

About 10 years ago now, yeah. I've apologized countless times, yet people still bring it up. I don't mind it, I deserve the hate for it, but it's really fucking stupid to do it to try and discredit my opinion when they have nothing else to say. It's just pathetic.

What was your original account?

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Bad_Mojo posted...

It's just pathetic.

I agree, pretending to be a teenage girl dying of cancer is pathetic.

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Guide posted...

What was your original account?

Rain6152

5/8/2009 is when I came clean about the whole thing after people started to try and. . what the word? Not hack me, but. . .anyways, they tried to get personal info from me so I just came clean about it

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

I agree, pretending to be a teenage girl dying of cancer is pathetic.

It is, welcome to many years ago. I'm not asking you to get over it, I'm asking you to stop using it as an argument, it's really pathetic

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Rain6152

5/8/2009 is when I came clean about the whole thing after people started to try and. . what the word? Not hack me, but. . .anyways, they tried to get personal info from me so I just came clean about it

Doxx is the word you're looking for.

And yeah, if you've apologized enough and it happened a decade ago, it shouldn't be relevant.

@FursonaNonGrata Do you ever let things go, or was a particular button pushed, or something?

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Proud Boys are getting bashed because some of their members are attacking people.

But that's their whole purpose.
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Antifar posted...

But that's their whole purpose.

Just like it's Antifa's purpose to cause havoc? Both of them are made up of good and bad people that do both good and bad things.

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okay now do westboro baptist church

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shockthemonkey posted...

I wont speak for him, but personally for me its more the fact that an obviously awful human being is trying to convince people to be nicer to Proud Boys

Fuck. I see it now, excuse me.

I always like to give people a chance, but...

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Just like it's Antifa's purpose to cause havoc? Both of them are made up of good and bad people that do both good and bad things.

You are either terribly misinformed or purposefully obfuscating the difference between Proud Boys (an avowed white nationalist hate group) and "Antifa" (literally short for "antifascist" ) which isn't an actual organization.

There is not a good Proud Boy. The tenets of the Proud Boy organization is literally the antithesis of what a good person is, even by the loosest of moral philosophies. Stop doing this.

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Conflict posted...

uh no i'm absolutely gonna keep generalizing a group of nazis thanks

Here is a man that joined the literal KKK just to spy on them -

https://www.history.com/news/black-cop-infiltrate-kkk-real-story

Guess he's a real piece of shit too, huh?


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Fairness does not require you to pretend that every group is the same.
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Yes, there's no need to be nice to extremists if that was part of your point, TC. My point was towards the whole generalizing thing, not to say the KKK or Proud Boys are anyway shape or form that they're good people.

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Bad_Mojo posted...

Here is a man that joined the literal KKK just to spy on them -

https://www.history.com/news/black-cop-infiltrate-kkk-real-story

Guess he's a real piece of shit too, huh?

So he's not actually KKK.

You're not doing great, here.

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