Current Events > Majority of states reject Trump's latest attempt to artificially lower COVID #s

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Rathinor
09/02/20 10:02:19 AM
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https://reut.rs/2YYKWZ0

Get fucked. Health officials are turning against the CDC itself now that Trump is just using it for political means

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/ignore-the-cdc-former-top-health-experts-say-some-states-already-have/
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mach25687
09/02/20 10:04:07 AM
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Why the fuck would you trust that crazy grandpa.

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Turbam
09/02/20 10:05:35 AM
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Wait...Trump is trying to artificially lower the Coivd numbers?

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pinky0926
09/02/20 10:05:58 AM
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I have so much second hand embarrassment for america

Literally the plot of idiocracy

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Rathinor
09/02/20 10:07:56 AM
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Turbam posted...
Wait...Trump is trying to artificially lower the Coivd numbers?
He had the CDC push guidance to no longer test asymptomatic people even if they closely interacted with known infected people. It was done to try and lower testing numbers, he's gearing up to try and declare victory over COVID before the election
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Turbam
09/02/20 10:19:57 AM
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Rathinor posted...
He had the CDC push guidance to no longer test asymptomatic people even if they closely interacted with known infected people. It was done to try and lower testing numbers, he's gearing up to try and declare victory over COVID before the election
Oh ok, that makes more sense then what I thought.
I thought he was trying to lower the number of cases that had already been confirmed >_>

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realnifty1
09/02/20 10:28:05 AM
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Turbam posted...
Oh ok, that makes more sense then what I thought.
I thought he was trying to lower the number of cases that had already been confirmed >_>

They did that as well I believe. I believe they changed the death totals to only count people that died from Covid without other complications. So like, you have Covid, and that causes you to develop pneumonia and you die, not a Covid death.
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CableZL
09/02/20 10:30:22 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
They did that as well I believe. I believe they changed the death totals to only count people that died from Covid without other complications. So like, you have Covid, and that causes you to develop pneumonia and you die, not a Covid death.
Where are you getting this from?

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Mezcla
09/02/20 10:31:22 AM
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Trumpers: "China is bad cuz they're hiding the numbers!"
Trump: "i'm hiding the numbers."
Trumpers:" HIDE THE NUMBERS!"

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Rathinor
09/02/20 10:32:17 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
They did that as well I believe. I believe they changed the death totals to only count people that died from Covid without other complications. So like, you have Covid, and that causes you to develop pneumonia and you die, not a Covid death.
That was actually just a conspiracy.

Even our president was dumb enough to fall for it and retweet it

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/cdc-has-not-reduced-death-count-related-covid-19
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gunplagirl
09/02/20 10:35:07 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
They did that as well I believe. I believe they changed the death totals to only count people that died from Covid without other complications. So like, you have Covid, and that causes you to develop pneumonia and you die, not a Covid death.
Or if you have received treatment for your cancer that's in remission and are immunocompromised, if you die from covid it won't count. Doesn't matter that covid was the death sentence.

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realnifty1
09/02/20 10:49:56 AM
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Rathinor posted...
That was actually just a conspiracy.

Even our president was dumb enough to fall for it and retweet it

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/cdc-has-not-reduced-death-count-related-covid-19

Well that is a relief at least, I never got to really follow up on it, I just remember that Trump had retweeted it, but then again the Trump Twitter feed is not exactly known for factual content.
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Christian RULES
09/02/20 10:54:44 AM
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I believe it's called deflation. Other countries aren't at America's level of testing. So America's numbers should be lowered so all countries can be weighted equally.

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Rathinor
09/02/20 10:56:05 AM
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Christian RULES posted...
I believe it's called deflation. Other countries aren't at America's level of testing. So America's numbers should be lowered so all countries can be weighted equally.
Stupidest post of the day goes to this guy!
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Were_Wyrm
09/02/20 10:56:32 AM
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I would've thought the more liberal states would've said "fuck the CDC we're listening to WHO" by now.

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PoundGarden
09/02/20 11:07:58 AM
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Rathinor posted...
He had the CDC push guidance to no longer test asymptomatic people even if they closely interacted with known infected people. It was done to try and lower testing numbers, he's gearing up to try and declare victory over COVID before the election
Sad thing is most of his base is just that stupid, they're already buying it. Funny af seeing all my conservative friends trying to spread that bullshit 6% number and its flagged as false and they're melting down over it being flagged
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DP3
09/02/20 11:09:40 AM
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CDC has sold out for Trump. Fuck them
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Ruvan22
09/02/20 11:17:59 AM
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Christian RULES posted...
I believe it's called deflation. Other countries aren't at America's level of testing. So America's numbers should be lowered so all countries can be weighted equally.

Which countries "aren't at America's level of testing"?
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monkmith
09/02/20 11:19:49 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Which countries "aren't at America's level of testing"?
i'd imagine a good number of 3rd world ones.

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Rathinor
09/02/20 11:21:02 AM
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Christian is just butthurt that Trump's awful response is universally criticized so he wants us to hide our results and pretend everything is OK
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Goldenguy
09/02/20 11:27:56 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Sad thing is most of his base is just that stupid, they're already buying it. Funny af seeing all my conservative friends trying to spread that bullshit 6% number and its flagged as false and they're melting down over it being flagged

I posted rebuttals to it on my end and I have people who are like "wHo FaCt ChEcKs ThE fAcT cHeCkErS?"

"Uhh.. reality?"

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Ruvan22
09/02/20 11:28:12 AM
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monkmith posted...
i'd imagine a good number of 3rd world ones.

Care to point out a specific one that uses a different methodology for testing?
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monkmith
09/02/20 11:35:24 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Care to point out a specific one that uses a different methodology for testing?
'points vaguely at africia'

you're acting like i'm screaming its a conspiricy, when in reality its common sense that many third world countries with functionally no government aren't doing much of any testing.

do you think i'm using this to defend trump?

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creativerealms
09/02/20 11:42:18 AM
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Turbam posted...
Wait...Trump is trying to artificially lower the Coivd numbers?
Apparently if you remove old people and People with existing conditions that make covid19 worse the death count is under ten thousand. So don't count the people at the highest risk and the disease isn't that deadly.

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CableZL
09/02/20 12:43:55 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Apparently if you remove old people and People with existing conditions that make covid19 worse the death count is under ten thousand. So don't count the people at the highest risk and the disease isn't that deadly.
The "under 10,000" count came from a chart they're reading incorrectly. The CDC at one time posted a chart that showed 10,000 deaths in a certain time period. The CDC has not at all suggested, in any form, that the number of deaths from COVID-19 is under 10,000.

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kingdrake2
09/02/20 12:48:17 PM
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realnifty1 posted...
you have Covid, and that causes you to develop pneumonia and you die, not a Covid death.


they say it isn't a covid death but a contributing factor from the disease counts :(.
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Sir Will
09/02/20 12:49:18 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
I believe it's called deflation. Other countries aren't at America's level of testing. So America's numbers should be lowered so all countries can be weighted equally.
Everything you said is wrong.

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CableZL
09/02/20 12:59:17 PM
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Correction: After re-reading the posts that this is about, it's referring to the comorbidities of deaths related to COVID-19.

The CDC is not at all suggesting that less than 10,000 people died from COVID-19. It's merely tracking data on deaths where only COVID-19 is listed and deaths where COVID-19 and other systems are listed, including pneumonia.

COVID-19 is a disease that attacks your respiratory system and can cause a number of other illnesses. To suggest that people who develop other illnesses "don't count" is asinine.

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PoundGarden
09/02/20 1:16:46 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Which countries "aren't at America's level of testing"?
Hey, we already have "alternative facts" now, why not have "alternative math" too and just say fuck science, truth and statistics altogether?

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