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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/20 12:17:53 AM
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I dont remember the ages of the actors involved and I havent seen cuties but I feel like the subject matter in kids was probably on a similar level.

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Questionmarktarius
09/20/20 12:25:40 AM
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Was the internet really a thing then?
There was definitely some decent outrage and moral panic, but it was sequestered to opinion columns and maybe some firehose on the local news.
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billcom6
09/20/20 12:27:02 AM
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yes, but social media didn't exist

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/20 12:31:00 AM
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yea I suppose the whole not really being much internet is probably a significant factor in it.

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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 12:34:30 AM
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I remember that movie being a big deal, as in a must watch lol. Then I seen it and was like "...ok". I probably was only a couple years older than the kids in the movie tho. Except the real young ones.

You ever see the movie Fresh? They got kids going and doing a dog fight lol. I love that movie. The ending gets me every time.

Samuel L Jackson is in it. Gus from Breaking Bad.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/20 12:35:21 AM
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I'll check out Fresh.

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IndustrialTrudg
09/20/20 12:40:44 AM
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I think the issue with Cuties is less the subject matter and more the way it shoots young girls doing adult dances in an erotic manner. Pixote is one of my favorite films and the subject matter and imagery is much more extreme but while it has child nudity it's never shown in a way that's erotic or could come across as if it's meant to arouse the viewer. If you want an older film with a similar message and controversy to Cuties there is Pretty Baby.
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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 12:44:03 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
I'll check out Fresh.

I honestly wanted to watch it again just talking about it. Probably been 2-3 years. It's just an entertaining movie to watch for me. The lil mexican kids funny. It's weird to me that no one ever talks about it. Like I said, it has some star power in it. I guess Gus dude wasn't really known. It's interesting to see him so much younger.

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g0ldie
09/20/20 12:50:07 AM
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I remember being in high school when copying over video tapes was still a thing, and a friend of mine wanted me to dub him this hip hop show that came on in the middle of the night.

before I copied over the tape, I put it in to see what was on it, and it was the movie Kids.

so, I'm just sitting there going "wtf" throughout this movie; it was probably the most wild thing that I've seen up to that point in my life.


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pfh1001
09/20/20 12:50:44 AM
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There was a big deal about Kids, yes, but there wasn't any social media & the internet was still in its infancy.

I remember when it first came out, watching it on Cinemax because it couldn't get shown in theaters due to the NC-17 rating. I was kinda disappointed by it-- the movie wasn't great, the guy that nailed all the virgins was ugly & creepy, most of the characters were completely unlikable, etc.

But the soundtrack was pretty great. I think I still have it somewhere. Also, first appearances of Rosario Dawson & Chloe Sevigny.
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Prestoff
09/20/20 1:14:48 AM
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Did the movie "kids" tackle the same topic as "cuties"?

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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 1:16:28 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Did the movie "kids" tackle the same topic as "cuties"?

I think it tackled the spread of deadly diseases through sex. I dunno, I haven't seen it in 14 years

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g0ldie
09/20/20 1:16:57 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Did the movie "kids" tackle the same topic as "cuties"?
I haven't seen Cuties, but if they descriptions that I read well represent the movie, then Kids is a lot more extreme.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/20 1:22:11 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
I think the issue with Cuties is less the subject matter and more the way it shoots young girls doing adult dances in an erotic manner. Pixote is one of my favorite films and the subject matter and imagery is much more extreme but while it has child nudity it's never shown in a way that's erotic or could come across as if it's meant to arouse the viewer. If you want an older film with a similar message and controversy to Cuties there is Pretty Baby.
Is there actually child nudity in Cuties?

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/20 1:24:35 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Did the movie "kids" tackle the same topic as "cuties"?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I feel like the subject matter in kids was probably on a similar level.


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IndustrialTrudg
09/20/20 1:30:09 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Is there actually child nudity in Cuties?

I've only seen clips but according to this yes.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg
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Questionmarktarius
09/20/20 1:58:16 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg

In one dance scene, a child lifts her top exposing her bare breast
Stay classy, France.
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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 2:00:35 AM
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That's actually wrong. It's not one the little girls you guys are imagining it is. It's an of age actress. it's not a child. You guys are so willing to be lead astray

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IndustrialTrudg
09/20/20 2:04:02 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
That's actually wrong. It's not one the little girls you guys are imagining it is. It's an of age actress. it's not a child. You guys are so willing to be lead astray

Its whoever wrote its fault for putting down false information.
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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 2:14:20 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Its whoever wrote its fault for putting down false information.

True. Talking about people being easily led astray would probably end up biting me in the ass eventually. This is the internet.

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Prestoff
09/20/20 2:15:43 AM
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Yeah there is no child nudity in the movie as far as I am aware (i actually watched it).

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IndustrialTrudg
09/20/20 2:17:58 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Yeah there is no child nudity in the movie as far as I am aware (i actually watched it).

Legit wondering was it maybe cut out of the American release? Or is it adult nudity being mistaken as child nudity?
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Lost_All_Senses
09/20/20 2:27:00 AM
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I didn't even watch it. I just watched a lot of different view points on it. People I've built up at least some type of trust on. One even debunked a few things on another list, even though he overall disapproved the movie.

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Prestoff
09/20/20 2:34:07 AM
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Yeah all the nudity is exclusively from the videos the girls watch (when the girls try to imitate what they're seeing to add it to their "risque" choreograph) which plays a big role for the TV MA rating. There is a scene though where the main girl takes a pic of her vagina and posts it on social media, but the vagina is never really shown.

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pfh1001
09/20/20 3:08:02 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Did the movie "kids" tackle the same topic as "cuties"?


The relevance is that Kids was about underage teens having sex (among other things) and specifically about how it lead to the spread of HIV.
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BlingBling22947
09/23/20 5:15:25 AM
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ZeldaNPC271x5
09/23/20 6:03:26 AM
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except the difference between cuties and kids is one has multiple shots of exploitative prepubescent child nudity during scenes of provocative dances and shit, closeups and all - and the other has adult actors portraying teenagers doing drugs and having sex

the comparison is not valid
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ZevLoveDOOM
09/23/20 6:04:07 AM
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is that the movie where Robin Williams is a child in a man's body?
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IfGodCouldDie
09/23/20 7:07:39 AM
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ZeldaNPC271x5 posted...
except the difference between cuties and kids is one has multiple shots of exploitative prepubescent child nudity during scenes of provocative dances and shit, closeups and all - and the other has adult actors portraying teenagers doing drugs and having sex

the comparison is not valid
Actually all the actors in kids were minors

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ZeldaNPC271x5
09/23/20 8:09:40 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Actually all the actors in kids were minors


The only minor was Rosario Dawson who was barely in the movie and had no suggestive scenes.
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IfGodCouldDie
09/23/20 5:53:54 PM
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ZeldaNPC271x5 posted...
The only minor was Rosario Dawson who was barely in the movie and had no suggestive scenes.
Thats actually not true. I just did some googling because I had remembered an article I read about it that claimed all the actors in kids were kids, turns out about half the cast was minors and the actor that played Telly was 16, Jennie's actress was 19/20ish, Rosario was 15, the actor that played Casper was 19/20ish, and so on and so forth, so there was a significant amount of minors in the film and some of them were involved in very suggestive scenes.

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Questionmarktarius
09/23/20 8:08:19 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
19/20ish
Where is that still a minor?
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IfGodCouldDie
09/23/20 8:17:56 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Where is that still a minor?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
turns out about half the cast was minors


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