Current Events > Does the Breoanna Taylor case prove that the home defense fantasy is a farce?

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MutantJohn
09/26/20 10:12:07 AM
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Someone finally defends their home from an intruder breaking in and...

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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:12:35 AM
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The caveat is you have to be white, apparently

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TommyG663513
09/26/20 10:12:37 AM
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Basically, yes

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Orlando_Jordan
09/26/20 10:16:21 AM
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Finally? You act like it's never happened when it happens all the time.

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:21:11 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
The caveat is you have to be white, apparently


You can't seriously be dense enough to think that those cops wouldn't have returned fire if that guy were white. Right!?

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fan357
09/26/20 10:22:11 AM
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The guy was released once the situation was apparent. You guys are insane. His race had nothing to do with it. Also people defend their homes from invaders all the time.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/26/20 10:23:51 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
You can't seriously be dense enough to think that those cops wouldn't have returned fire if that guy were white. Right!?
If the guy was white this never would have happened.

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Ving_Rhames
09/26/20 10:24:08 AM
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dolomedes posted...
the right's dislike for black people is stronger than their obsessive love of guns


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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:24:57 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
You can't seriously be dense enough to think that those cops wouldn't have returned fire if that guy were white. Right!?

You cant seriously be that ignorant to not know that shit literally happens all the fucking time. Right?!

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:26:18 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
You cant seriously be that ignorant to not know that s*** literally happens all the f***ing time. Right?!

>someone shoots at cops
>cops shoot back
>CEmen act surprised

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fan357
09/26/20 10:26:46 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
You cant seriously be that ignorant to not know that shit literally happens all the fucking time. Right?!
What happens? No knock warrants gone wrong? Happens to white people too.

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Unsugarized_Foo
09/26/20 10:27:58 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
You can't seriously be dense enough to think that those cops wouldn't have returned fire if that guy were white. Right!?

You've obviously played MGS2 too much where the only black person is impossible to shoot

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:27:59 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
If the guy was white this never would have happened.


Can't believe I'm the first person to tell you this, but they do no knock raids on white people too

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fan357
09/26/20 10:31:13 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
You've obviously played MGS2 too much where the only black person is impossible to shoot

Lmao it took me a minute. I wish for that fight you had to find a different way to beat her.

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Lysandear
09/26/20 10:31:47 AM
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Always has been
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MutantJohn
09/26/20 10:32:01 AM
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Yeah, no knock warrants are also issued for white people as well.

The real problem is that police were in a situation they shouldn't have been in. It's really a fault of the judge that issued the warrant.

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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:32:27 AM
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fan357 posted...
What happens? No knock warrants gone wrong? Happens to white people too.

Never said it didn't. My point, which flew spectacularly over a few heads, was to imply white people are treated exactly the same is complete bullshit. Mass shooters for one. "Oh I'm tired of shooting people now, I give up." and there apprehended without further incident 99% of the time.
White people also abso fucking lutely do get into shootouts with pigs (happened just a couple weeks ago) and still by and far are able to surrender and be apprehended fairly peacefully.

Black man cant even eat a fuckin bowl of ice cream on his couch without being shot to death by some idiot fucking shit pig

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:33:42 AM
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I'm pretty sure they knocked and identified themselves. Neighbors stated they did. Even if they didn't they didn't have to knock since they had a warrant.

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:34:31 AM
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monkmith
09/26/20 10:37:30 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
If the guy was white this never would have happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPIpqEnL5k

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MutantJohn
09/26/20 10:38:04 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
I'm pretty sure they knocked and identified themselves. Neighbors stated they did. Even if they didn't they didn't have to knock since they had a warrant.

Ideally, body cam footage would confirm this.

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:38:14 AM
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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:38:18 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
I'm pretty sure they knocked and identified themselves. Neighbors stated they did. Even if they didn't they didn't have to knock since they had a warrant.

That's simply not true, at all.

ONE neighbor says they knocked. SEVERAL say they didn't.
So you're opinion on what happened is based in the testimony of one person? Gee, I wonder why that could be....

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:38:51 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Never said it didn't. My point, which flew spectacularly over a few heads, was to imply white people are treated exactly the same is complete bullshit. Mass shooters for one. "Oh I'm tired of shooting people now, I give up." and there apprehended without further incident 99% of the time.
White people also abso fucking lutely do get into shootouts with pigs (happened just a couple weeks ago) and still by and far are able to surrender and be apprehended fairly peacefully.

Black man cant even eat a fuckin bowl of ice cream on his couch without being shot to death by some idiot fucking shit pig


No one said they're always treated the same.

But by all means, what mass shooter shot at the cops and was peacefully taken into custody?

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:39:37 AM
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MutantJohn posted...
Ideally, body cam footage would confirm this.

The jury probably saw body cam footage. Theres a reason they got acquitted

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Zikten
09/26/20 10:39:39 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
I'm pretty sure they knocked and identified themselves. Neighbors stated they did. Even if they didn't they didn't have to knock since they had a warrant.

No knock warrants should be illegal anyway

And no they didn't knock. Only one "witness" claims they knocked and it was someone who lives on the floor above Breonna. The witnesses on her floor all say they didn't knock. The ones who stuck their head out and looked the hall and actually saw it happen, unlike the person upstairs
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Lysandear
09/26/20 10:40:44 AM
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It's really sad the shit you guys post to get your rocks off. It's sad this site lets you. Like genuinely sad, it makes me sad. Don't be this way please
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voldothegr8
09/26/20 10:41:09 AM
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Only if you're unlucky enough to have unannounced civilian dressed cops beat down your door
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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:41:44 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
So you're opinion on what happened is based in the testimony of one person? Gee, I wonder why that could be....

No? My opinion of what happened was from the report and the jury acquitting them over it. So you think 12 people just said **** fuck it and acquitted them?

Also it doesn't even matter if they knocked or not idk why you keep ignoring this

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:42:46 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
That's simply not true, at all.

ONE neighbor says they knocked. SEVERAL say they didn't.
So you're opinion on what happened is based in the testimony of one person? Gee, I wonder why that could be....


They definitely knocked, which is why the guy has time to go and get his firearm. the debate is whether or not they announced who they were, which I would assume they did. It makes zero sense to knock but not announce who they are.

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:43:14 AM
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Zikten posted...
And no they didn't knock. Only one "witness" claims they knocked and it was someone who lives on the floor above Breonna. The witnesses on her floor all say they didn't knock. The ones who stuck their head out and looked the hall and actually saw it happen, unlike the person upstairs

And again the jury saw things we didn't so either way. Also no knock warrants should not be illegal lmao

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Ving_Rhames
09/26/20 10:44:09 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
No one said they're always treated the same.

But by all means, what mass shooter shot at the cops and was peacefully taken into custody?

Jason Michael Mesich


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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:46:13 AM
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Zikten posted...
No knock warrants should be illegal anyway

And no they didn't knock. Only one "witness" claims they knocked and it was someone who lives on the floor above Breonna. The witnesses on her floor all say they didn't knock. The ones who stuck their head out and looked the hall and actually saw it happen, unlike the person upstairs


Her boyfriend testified that they did knock bro, he just said they didn't identify who they were

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The_Ivory_Man
09/26/20 10:46:36 AM
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I don't get how this proves the home defense fantasy is a farce?

He shot a cop and didn't receive charges, so he didn't get in any trouble at all. Doesn't that prove the home defense works? If he actually got charged I could see the point you were making, but I don't get it now.
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Lysandear
09/26/20 10:47:09 AM
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The_Ivory_Man posted...
I don't get how this proves the home defense fantasy is a farce?

He shot a cop and didn't receive charges, so he didn't get in any trouble at all. Doesn't that prove the home defense works? If he actually got charged I could see the point you were making, but I don't get it now.

Ya fuckin me right
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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:48:10 AM
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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 10:48:27 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Jason Michael Mesich


Officers went in the home in an attempt to find other victims but Jason Mesich was the only person in the residence. He was screaming, throwing objects and firing guns in the basement, the complaint states. He eventually surrendered to the police and was arrested.

nope, try again

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fan357
09/26/20 10:48:36 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Never said it didn't. My point, which flew spectacularly over a few heads, was to imply white people are treated exactly the same is complete bullshit. Mass shooters for one. "Oh I'm tired of shooting people now, I give up." and there apprehended without further incident 99% of the time.
White people also abso fucking lutely do get into shootouts with pigs (happened just a couple weeks ago) and still by and far are able to surrender and be apprehended fairly peacefully.

Black man cant even eat a fuckin bowl of ice cream on his couch without being shot to death by some idiot fucking shit pig

Shes in jail.

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BeyondWalls
09/26/20 10:53:34 AM
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The_Ivory_Man posted...
I don't get how this proves the home defense fantasy is a farce?
Probably because his firing of a weapon sparked a hail of gunfire and if it wasnt for the media hed be in jail as an attempted cop killer.

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The_Ivory_Man
09/26/20 10:55:53 AM
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Lysandear posted...
Ya fuckin me right

I don't know what the point is, man shot at home intruders doesn't receive punishment after it turns out they were police.

How does this prove anything about the "home defense fantasy"
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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:56:45 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
No one said they're always treated the same.

But by all means, what mass shooter shot at the cops and was peacefully taken into custody?

Dont cherry pick. Mass shooters AND people who fire at pigs/resist arrest by and far get taken in alive, as long as they're white. As far as specifics, here you go champ. Take your pick. Whew, Google is haaaaaard

https://tinyurl.com/y5pfyj8v

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coh
09/26/20 10:56:56 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
>someone shoots at cops
>cops shoot back
>CEmen act surprised
all that needs to be said really
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PoundGarden
09/26/20 10:58:37 AM
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fan357 posted...
Shes in jail.

Which is awesome, she absolutely should be.

Point stands, black people cant even mind their own business at home without possibly being shot by dangerous trigger happy shit pigs.

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 10:59:05 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Which is awesome, she absolutely should be.

Point stands, black people cant even mind their own business at home without possibly being shot by dangerous trigger happy shit pigs.

I dont think thats true bud

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hitokoriX
09/26/20 11:05:06 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
I dont think thats true bud
It has literally been proven time and time again

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 11:06:36 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
Dont cherry pick. Mass shooters AND people who fire at pigs/resist arrest by and far get taken in alive, as long as they're white. As far as specifics, here you go champ. Take your pick. Whew, Google is haaaaaard

https://tinyurl.com/y5pfyj8v


Lol @ accusing me of cherry picking. I'm literally asking you to cherry pick an example that proves your point. I could just ask you to provide statistical evidence of what you're saying

I'm asking you to name one incidence of a white man shooting at cops and not being fired upon back. Not of violent white offenders who were arrested peacefully. Surely you have the cognitive function to see the difference between those two, correct?

People who knowingly shoot at the cops have generally accepted the fact that they're about to die right now.

The fact that you can't do that speaks volumes

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Solid Snake07
09/26/20 11:07:47 AM
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hitokoriX posted...
It has literally been proven time and time again


Are white people are never wrongfully killed at home or something?

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CEs_EFG
09/26/20 11:08:09 AM
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hitokoriX posted...
It has literally been proven time and time again

Gonna need examples that don't involve the cops being in danger

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Dathrowed1
09/26/20 11:15:23 AM
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No, weren't the charges against her boyfriend dropped?

It seems some people don't understand that justice implies impartiality

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