Current Events > Vtubers suspended for acknowledging Taiwan's existence

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pogo_rabid
09/27/20 11:13:26 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/j0pz82/cover_suspends_cocohaachama_for_3_weeks_for/

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/20 11:14:27 AM
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'Vtubers'

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pogo_rabid
09/27/20 11:15:13 AM
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What would you suggest they be referred to as?

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awesome999
09/27/20 11:15:36 AM
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The Chinese government is just sad, I feel for the Taiwanese

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 11:16:16 AM
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They can recondition people in as little as 3 weeks?

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Funkydog
09/27/20 11:19:10 AM
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Unfortunate reality for any company that deals with China, and given the company that runs them works and has vtubers in China they likely had little choice.

Obviously China's government can go fuck itself and really these companies shouldn't be working with them to begin with.

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 11:25:36 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Unfortunate reality for any company that deals with China, and given the company that runs them works and has vtubers in China they likely had little choice.

Obviously China's government can go fuck itself and really these companies shouldn't be working with them to begin with.
It's infuriating that basically the entire world is complicit in China's crimes.

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ssjevot
09/27/20 11:25:56 AM
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My understanding is they simply were reading what percent of their viewers were from each country and it of course listed Taiwan. So I don't get why they aren't blaming it on the analytics instead of the people reading them.

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LordFarquad1312
09/27/20 11:27:53 AM
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That's rough, I guess one of the prices they have to pay for their manufactured image is not being able to speak openly.

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Funkydog
09/27/20 11:28:43 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's infuriating that basically the entire world is complicit in China's crimes.
It really is, but I don't know what we can do as your average people. These companies aren't going to stop doing business with them it seems.

ssjevot posted...
My understanding is they simply were reading what percent of their viewers were from each country and it of course listed Taiwan. So I don't get why they aren't blaming it on the analytics instead of the people reading them.
China dislikes the mention of these things that much. They censor what is known to such a degree they want their citizens kept entirely in the dark about the existence of certain things, so if they see mention of it it means they may find out the government is lying to them.

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ssjevot
09/27/20 11:32:24 AM
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Funkydog posted...
China dislikes the mention of these things that much. They censor what is known to such a degree they want their citizens kept entirely in the dark about the existence of certain things, so if they see mention of it it means they may find out the government is lying to them.

Half my family lives in China. They know the government lies to them. You seem to misunderstand the situation. People aren't in the dark, they just don't care. Due to nationalism or apathy most simply do not care what the government is saying or doing as long as they can continue to live a decent life. Online nationalists are a mix of genuine or paid, but the vast majority simply don't care. The Taiwan situation is well understood, it's in the news constantly and they love to talk about how they are ready to invade and retake it all the time. They aren't in the dark about it, they are told it is a part of China and eventually the government will take it back, and most either don't care or support it out of nationalism.

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Funkydog
09/27/20 11:35:30 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Half my family lives in China. They know the government lies to them. You seem to misunderstand the situation. People aren't in the dark, they just don't care. Due to nationalism or apathy most simply do not care what the government is saying or doing as long as they can continue to live a decent life. Online nationalists are a mix of genuine or paid, but the vast majority simply don't care. The Taiwan situation is well understood, it's in the news constantly and they love to talk about how they are ready to invade and retake it all the time. They aren't in the dark about it, they are told it is a part of China and eventually the government will take it back, and most either don't care or support it out of nationalism.
Fair enough.

Either way doesn't change they don't want mention of it though ultimately.

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Hop103
09/27/20 11:35:58 AM
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Chinese nationalists are acting like 3rd graders yet again, CCP as well. Get the hell over it, Taiwan is not yours.
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uwnim
09/27/20 11:36:58 AM
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Taiwan is its own country. There is no denying that. Like it is simply the truth.

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Powdered_Toast
09/27/20 12:08:57 PM
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Instead of trying to get streamers to read slurs, trolls will now try to get them to say other forbidden words.

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Murphiroth
09/27/20 12:11:28 PM
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I got the distinct vibe that Coco only did it to take some of the heat of Haachama. She had to have known of the reaction the Chinese trolls had to Haachama merely reading the percentage of viewers she had in Taiwan and still did the same thing.

The Chinese antis are apparently saying this isn't enough and that Coco needs to be fired so she seems to be tanking most of the hate, I hope she's safe from that fate as she's Hololive's biggest earner.


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LordFarquad1312
09/27/20 12:11:35 PM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
Instead of trying to get streamers to read slurs, trolls will now try to get them to say other forbidden words.
That's actually kind of fucked.

One of the EN girls can't read japanese very well, so sometimes she uses Google to learn how to pronounce things. Imagine someone with a controversial name donating to her, then she googles the name and gets in trouble.

Murphiroth posted...
I got the distinct vibe that Coco only did it to take some of the heat of Haachama. She had to have known of the reaction the Chinese trolls had to Haachama merely reading the percentage of viewers she had in Taiwan and still did the same thing.

The Chinese antis are apparently saying this isn't enough and that Coco needs to be fired so she seems to be tanking most of the hate, I hope she's safe from that fate as she's Hololive's biggest earner.
I think she'll be fine. She's actually probably the person that's earned the most from super chats on YT as a whole.

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Irony
09/27/20 12:13:38 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Is she under a company that bows down to China?
Everyone is

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LordFarquad1312
09/27/20 12:13:39 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Is she under a company that bows down to China?
She's from the same agency as the two being discussed in this topic

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Funkydog
09/27/20 12:14:18 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Is she under a company that bows down to China?
They are all under Cover, the one that did the suspension to the current two.

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NeonOctopus
09/27/20 12:28:07 PM
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They should be suspended for being vtubers honestly

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Irony
09/27/20 12:43:37 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
They should be suspended for being vtubers honestly
Shut the fuck up

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skermac
09/27/20 12:46:30 PM
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las I checked taiwan is part of China, I dont recall China granting them independence

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NinjaWarrior455
09/27/20 12:47:38 PM
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Yikes^

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VonOrdelia
09/27/20 12:48:31 PM
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I really don't get China shills

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MarthGoomba
09/27/20 12:50:17 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
They should be suspended for being vtubers honestly

But Coco has the best boobs out of all VTubers
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Poop2
09/27/20 12:50:47 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
I really don't get China shills
its just the equation balancing itself out
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Tyranthraxus
09/27/20 12:51:54 PM
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uwnim posted...
Taiwan is its own country. There is no denying that. Like it is simply the truth.

Taiwan is dependent on China at the moment. China could literally "take it back" just by cutting off the supply of food and access to mainland business until Taiwan voluntarily surrendered.

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CM_Ponch
09/27/20 12:52:09 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
I really don't get China shills
Don't try to understand stupidity, it just opens stupid doors

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LordFarquad1312
09/27/20 12:54:38 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
They should be suspended for being vtubers honestly
yeah, let's suspend the biggest earners on the platform.

Hope you're never in charge of a large company.

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Cornhuskers
09/27/20 12:57:29 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


Taiwan is dependent on China at the moment. China could literally "take it back" just by cutting off the supply of food and access to mainland business until Taiwan voluntarily surrendered.

No you can't do that.

No nation is allowed to do an embargo on another. From the east side of the islabd, they could have food brought in.

Btw, this is Hololive as a meme atm:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/j0qi1m/hololive_in_a_nutshell/
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Tyranthraxus
09/27/20 12:59:40 PM
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Cornhuskers posted...
No you can't do that.

Ah magic words that totally will stop China.

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 1:03:39 PM
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skermac posted...
las I checked taiwan is part of China, I dont recall China granting them independence
las I checked shut the fuck up

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uwnim
09/27/20 2:06:47 PM
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skermac posted...
las I checked taiwan is part of China, I dont recall China granting them independence
You checked wrong. Also, China can't grand them independence since the current Chinese government has never had control over Taiwan.

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skermac
09/27/20 2:46:19 PM
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uwnim posted...
You checked wrong. Also, China can't grand them independence since the current Chinese government has never had control over Taiwan.

so you are saying china never had control of its own territory?

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KamenRiderBlade
09/27/20 2:49:57 PM
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skermac posted...
so you are saying china never had control of its own territory?
It was never part of China.

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Materus
09/27/20 2:54:01 PM
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The Chinese are so incredible fragile and bitch like its unreal lmao

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Lorenzo_2003
09/27/20 3:01:50 PM
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skermac posted...
las I checked taiwan is part of China, I dont recall China granting them independence

Lol, you might be trolling, but Ill admit that gave me a good laugh.

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pikachupwnage
09/27/20 3:03:05 PM
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Honestly we should make it illegal for all media companies to operate in China.

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NeonOctopus
09/27/20 3:03:25 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
But Coco has the best boobs out of all VTubers
Prove it

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Murphiroth
09/27/20 3:30:42 PM
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uwnim
09/27/20 3:33:59 PM
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skermac posted...
so you are saying china never had control of its own territory?
It was never the territory of the PRC and remained under ROC control.

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02fran
09/27/20 3:48:28 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
https://i.imgur.com/s9XlUTt.jpg
Actually lol'd. Are there more like this?
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Funkydog
09/27/20 3:50:09 PM
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02fran posted...
Actually lol'd. Are there more like this?
The reddit has several, yeah.

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02fran
09/27/20 3:59:37 PM
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Fuck it I'll do it myself


Hololive Just Announced A New Talent To Replace Coco and Haato. Introducing - Winnie-san


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