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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:02:11 PM
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Syber Cube case with 5x programmable RGB fans
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Thermaltake liquid cooling
1 TB Patriot Viper VP4100 PCIe Gen 4 SSD 5000/4400 speed
32 GB GSKILL Trident Z RBG DDR-3200 RAM
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W power supply
GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X

$3500

Or I can shave off $900 and get an RTX 3080

(The pic is a stock example of a Syber Cube, btw)

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littlebro07
09/30/20 4:04:06 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Or I can shave off $900 and get an RTX 3080

Don't do it

Go big or go home

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:04:21 PM
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PlCCOLO posted...
you got a 3090 or not?

It's the one thing that's kept me from submitting the order. Not sure whether to fork over double the cash for a mere 10-15% improvement in performance

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Dustin1280
09/30/20 4:05:33 PM
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That looks like an airflow nightmare...

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ScazarMeltex
09/30/20 4:05:46 PM
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Good luck getting the 3090 or 3080 but other than that looks good.

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:07:49 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
That looks like an airflow nightmare...

There's literally no seals anywhere





Plus it has five fans

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:09:47 PM
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See how displaced the sides of the case are? Basically the whole thing allows air movement


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monkmith
09/30/20 4:10:03 PM
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https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00A2-00004

you need one of these if you want MAXIMUM AIRFLOW!!!, look, its got 12 FANS!

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Axiom
09/30/20 4:11:30 PM
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3090 isn't even close to worth it for such a small increase
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Dustin1280
09/30/20 4:12:21 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
See how displaced the sides of the case are? Basically the whole thing allows air movement
Interesting... I probably wouldn't get that case till I saw some actual reviews on it personally.

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ScazarMeltex
09/30/20 4:14:40 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i really hate that case
I actually kind of dig it. It has a weird modern art feel to it.

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:17:10 PM
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Honestly, I think I'm going with the 3080 simply because the 3090 is so damn huge it'll create space issues

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BignutzisBack
09/30/20 4:17:39 PM
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Why would you spend that much money on a dying platform?

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:20:02 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Why would you spend that much money on a dying platform?

Getting my gaming laptop taught me exactly why PC gaming is far superior to console gaming.

ESPECIALLY now that Microsoft has basically integrated PC into the Xbox ecosystem.

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Questionmarktarius
09/30/20 4:24:38 PM
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How much would it cost without the superfluous casing?
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ScazarMeltex
09/30/20 4:25:58 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i hate modern art
Lol I do as well, but it can occasionally look stylish.

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Ruvan22
09/30/20 4:27:22 PM
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DarkRoast posted...


See how displaced the sides of the case are? Basically the whole thing allows air movement

Don't open seals mean more dust can come in?
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Questionmarktarius
09/30/20 4:28:53 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Don't open seals mean more dust can come in?
Why not just have no case, and just build a support structure out of an Erector set or something?
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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:33:41 PM
#24:


Questionmarktarius posted...
How much would it cost without the superfluous casing?

The case is $129


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Ruvan22
09/30/20 4:34:03 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why not just have no case, and just build a support structure out of an Erector set or something?
I'm not trying to be smart alecky, genuinely curious
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Questionmarktarius
09/30/20 4:35:26 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
I'm not trying to be smart alecky, genuinely curious
Dust is going to get in, regardless.
Big ol' gaps means it's slightly less likely to stay in.
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DarkRoast
09/30/20 4:40:56 PM
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The Gen 4 SSD is really what jacked up the price the most.

Those specs with the RTX 3080 is about $2,500


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monkmith
09/30/20 5:09:52 PM
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you paid $2500 for something like that, and didn't even get a custom loop setup?

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:25:37 PM
#30:


I checked, it's a full tower
I'm getting the RTX 3090

So here it is:

Syber Cube case with 5x programmable RGB fans
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X w/ 15% Overclock
Thermaltake Water 3.0 120mm ARGB Sync Edition high performance CPU waterblock Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate
1 TB Patriot Viper VP4100 PCIe Gen 4 SSD 5000/4400 speed
32 GB GSKILL Trident Z RBG DDR-3200 RAM
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W power supply
GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X
Professional wiring (braided cables, tied together, etc)
Free included: Watch Dogs Legion and AC Valhalla

$3,500


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DarthAragorn
09/30/20 5:26:18 PM
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that case is absolute dogshit and the 3090 isn't even close to worth it but really this is just a "look at me i have so much money" topic so whatever
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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:27:26 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
that case is absolute dogshit and the 3090 isn't even close to worth it but really this is just a "look at me i have so much money" topic so whatever

You seem kind of mad
You should try not being mad

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monkmith
09/30/20 5:29:23 PM
#33:


DarkRoast posted...
I checked, it's a full tower
I'm getting the RTX 3090

So here it is:

Syber Cube case with 5x programmable RGB fans
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X w/ 15% Overclock
Thermaltake Water 3.0 120mm ARGB Sync Edition high performance CPU waterblock Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate
1 TB Patriot Viper VP4100 PCIe Gen 4 SSD 5000/4400 speed
32 GB GSKILL Trident Z RBG DDR-3200 RAM
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W power supply
GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X
Professional wiring (braided cables, tied together, etc)
Free included: Watch Dogs Legion and AC Valhalla

$3,500
that radiator is hilariously tiny.

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:30:02 PM
#34:


monkmith posted...
that radiator is hilariously tiny.

It's also totally fine for a Ryzen CPU


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MarthGoomba
09/30/20 5:33:32 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
See how displaced the sides of the case are? Basically the whole thing allows air movement

The front fans are still near useless because they need the area in front of them to be open in order to do anything. Pulling from small openings to the sides means the full surface area of each fan isn't going to be pulling air in, which is why they crammed four in.

A single fan with a filter in front of it could run at a lower RPM, providing better temperatures AND less noise.
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Dustin1280
09/30/20 5:34:17 PM
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These case looks cool, I just don't trust it's design until reviews come out about it. It screams air circulation problems to me.

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:39:48 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
These case looks cool, I just don't trust it's design until reviews come out about it. It screams air circulation problems to me.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/syber-cube-specs-price-release-date,news-29028.html


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ScazarMeltex
09/30/20 5:42:03 PM
#38:


Honestly the costs of a large SSD os one of the things keeping me from pulling the trigger on a new rig right now.

How did you manage to get ahold of a 3090.

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Dustin1280
09/30/20 5:43:05 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/syber-cube-specs-price-release-date,news-29028.html
I'm waiting for this:

The Cube will be available to order soon, so keep an eye out for it (and our eventual review) if you're looking for an over-the-top gaming desktop that will make your command center truly look one of a kind.

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:48:43 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
That's the ugliest gimmick case I've seen in a long while, and I liked that ridiculous tristellar nuclear bomb looking thing from awhile back

Well I like it





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APM
09/30/20 5:50:42 PM
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That ain't no spare no expense.

That ain't no 3950x
You can run 2 of those ssds on raid 0,
What the hell you doing only running 32gb of ram and why is it only clocked at 3200? Pretty sure you can get 4600mhz clocked ram and way more than just 32.
Only 850w psu? Boy you better not be upgrading to the 4000 series gpus whenever they come out

zen 3 coming out in like next month btw

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DarkRoast
09/30/20 5:51:49 PM
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APM posted...
That ain't no spare no expense.

That ain't no 3950x
You can run 2 of those ssds on raid 0,
What the hell you doing only running 32gb of ram and why is it only clocked at 3200? Pretty sure you can get 4600mhz clocked ram and way more than just 32.
Only 850w psu? Boy you better not be upgrading to the 4000 series gpus whenever they come out

There's overkill and there's overkilloverkill


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KamenRiderBlade
09/30/20 5:52:41 PM
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monkmith posted...
https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00A2-00004

you need one of these if you want MAXIMUM AIRFLOW!!!, look, its got 12 FANS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE
No, just NO!!!

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I just don't trust the Syber Cube Case design / airflow.

Everything else seems to be within reasonability of what you want.

Steve Burke of Gamers Nexus talks about optimal AirFlow @ 26:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHz_68uxZB8

Round-Up of Best AirFlow cases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMNu0gWlZw

NOTE: Advice from Corsair's Thermal Engineer:

1) High AirFlow fans are good for cases without obstructions more than a Fan Grill. These fans perform best in "Free Air" conditions. The fans on the back of a Typical PC case is a good example. They can be used on the Front or Top positions if the case grille is highly open. Dust Filters will SIGNIFICANTLY impact airflow style fans and will need to be cleaned frequently. These fans are often low noise and low performance and can be run at full speed.

2) High 'Static Pressure' fans are good for flow resistant applications such as a liquid cooling radiators, dust filters and highly restrictive openings. Popular case designs these days are solid faced with openings only on the sides. If the solid front is at least 1" from the fan and the side vents are mostly open, then moderate pressure fans will perform well. However if the solid front panel is closer than 1" or the side inlets are obscured then the user will need higher pressure rated fans.

If the front is less than 1/4" from the solid panel, the end user probably shouldn't use that case or worry about populating those fan positions except as jewelry as they won't be moving very much air at all!

Another thing to look at is the airflow path for front case fans. If the air comes in the side, turns 90 to the back and enters the fan AND has 1" or more clearance, then they'll probably have a good time with lots of fans. However, I've seen several cases where the fan body is actually forward of the side vents so the air comes in, turns 90 forward, then 90 towards center, then 90 towards the back. These cases are going to have a bad time with all but the most powerful fans.

- Bobby Kinstle, Corsair Thermal Engineer

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monkmith
09/30/20 5:54:26 PM
#47:


DarkRoast posted...
It's also totally fine for a Ryzen CPU
if you say so. cant see spending $3500 on a PC without a custom loop.

if you absolutely refuse to build one might i suggest at least looking at ibuypower? they'll actually do a custom loop with hard tubing so it looks nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsNM05JYOs0&t

an example of what you can get.

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monkmith
09/30/20 5:54:49 PM
#48:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE
No, just NO!!!

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I just don't trust the Syber Cube Case design / airflow.

Everything else seems to be within reasonability of what you want.

Steve Burke of Gamers Nexus talks about optimal AirFlow @ 26:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHz_68uxZB8

Round-Up of Best AirFlow cases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMNu0gWlZw

NOTE: Advice from Corsair's Thermal Engineer:

1) High AirFlow fans are good for cases without obstructions more than a Fan Grill. These fans perform best in "Free Air" conditions. The fans on the back of a Typical PC case is a good example.
They can be used on the Front or Top positions if the case grille is highly open. Dust Filters will SIGNIFICANTLY impact airflow style fans and will need to be cleaned frequently. These fans
are often low noise and low performance and can be run at full speed.

2) High 'Static Pressure' fans are good for flow resistant applications such as a liquid cooling radiators, dust filters and highly restrictive openings. Popular case designs these days are solid
faced with openings only on the sides. If the solid front is at least 1" from the fan and the side vents are mostly open, then moderate pressure fans will perform well. However if the solid
front panel is closer than 1" or the side inlets are obscured then the user will need higher pressure rated fans.

If the front is less than 1/4" from the solid panel, the end user probably shouldn't use that case or worry about populating those fan positions except as jewelry as they won't be moving very
much air at all!

Another thing to look at is the airflow path for front case fans. If the air comes in the side, turns 90 to the back and enters the fan AND has 1" or more clearance, then they'll probably have
a good time with lots of fans. However, I've seen several cases where the fan body is actually forward of the side vents so the air comes in, turns 90 forward, then 90 towards center, then 90
towards the back. These cases are going to have a bad time with all but the most powerful fans.

- Bobby Kinstle, Corsair Thermal Engineer
you obviously dont understand sarcasm...

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KamenRiderBlade
09/30/20 5:56:02 PM
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monkmith posted...
you obviously dont understand sarcasm...
It's hard to hear the tone of your sarcastic voice over text on a messageboard on the internet.

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KamenRiderBlade
09/30/20 5:58:24 PM
#50:


DarkRoast posted...
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W power supply
I'd recommend a minimum of 1000W power supply.

Some people were getting black screens because of 3090's high power draw spikes with even 850 watts.

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