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Blue_Dream87 10/07/20 8:47:56 PM #1:	https://youtu.be/pMALdj8u_do Now we got a left wing counter to PragerU. Not a bad video either, good animation and decent intro into more anti-capitalist thought --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945584196] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/pMALdj8u_do Now we got a left wing counter to PragerU. Not a bad video either, good animation and decent intro into more anti-capitalist thought </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/07/20 8:49:29 PM #2:	Imagine thinking that a left wing version of PragerU is a good thing --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:945584254] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking that a left wing version of PragerU is a good thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/07/20 8:55:11 PM #3:	Damn_Underscore posted... Imagine thinking that a left wing version of PragerU is a good thing Better than letting them run unchecked besides hour-long reaction videos by white dudes in their basement --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945584463] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine thinking that a left wing version of PragerU is a good thing</quote> Better than letting them run unchecked besides hour-long reaction videos by white dudes in their basement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/07/20 8:57:46 PM #4:	Blue_Dream87 posted... Better than letting them run unchecked besides hour-long reaction videos by white dudes in their basement People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:945584551] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted... </cite> <quote>Better than letting them run unchecked besides hour-long reaction videos by white dudes in their basement</quote> People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/07/20 9:01:46 PM #5:	Damn_Underscore posted... People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments While luckily we don't have people here who buy into it, I'm sure a lot of us know people who do post these videos on social media. Here's a counter to that propaganda, and these videos don't seem to be pushing misinformation. Just providing some tools for us to use against the oligarchy --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945584699] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments</quote> While luckily we don't have people here who buy into it, I'm sure a lot of us know people who do post these videos on social media. Here's a counter to that propaganda, and these videos don't seem to be pushing misinformation. Just providing some tools for us to use against the oligarchy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lightwarrior78 10/07/20 9:03:51 PM #6:	Wow, I can't eat anything I want without getting fat and unhealthy. Why am I not free to eat anything I want [without consequence]. --- http://backloggery.com/reddthesock <cite>lightwarrior78 posted [p:945584772] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Wow, I can't eat anything I want without getting fat and unhealthy. Why am I not free to eat anything I want [without consequence]. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/07/20 9:04:36 PM #7:	It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:945584794] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 10/07/20 9:06:34 PM #8:	Damn_Underscore posted... People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments So GI is countering by doing the exact same thing? --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:945584883] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote> People don't post PragerU vids on here though The entire point of PragerU is to push an agenda with misleading evidence and arguments </quote> So GI is countering by doing the exact same thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/07/20 9:12:14 PM #9:	Damn_Underscore posted... It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda. Everyone has an agenda, that means nothing. And this channel was formed specifically to fight conservative propaganda, you don't need to fight misinformation with misinformation. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945585137] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda.</quote> Everyone has an agenda, that means nothing. And this channel was formed specifically to fight conservative propaganda, you don't need to fight misinformation with misinformation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/07/20 9:14:40 PM #10:	Blue_Dream87 posted... you don't need to fight misinformation with misinformation. That's exactly what I've been saying... --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:945585249] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted... </cite> <quote>you don't need to fight misinformation with misinformation.</quote> That's exactly what I've been saying... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 10/07/20 9:16:31 PM #11:	Damn_Underscore posted... That's exactly what I've been saying... And I'm saying you're adding nothing to this, you have no evidence GI is feeding misinformation or using that tactic. You just read "left wing counter" and go straight up both sides on it. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:945585324] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>That's exactly what I've been saying...</quote> And I'm saying you're adding nothing to this, you have no evidence GI is feeding misinformation or using that tactic. You just read "left wing counter" and go straight up both sides on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 10/07/20 9:16:54 PM #12:	Title is a false dichotomy <cite>coh posted [p:945585343] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Title is a false dichotomy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 10/07/20 9:17:45 PM #13:	Capitalism = Freedom Socialism = Slavery --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:945585389] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Capitalism = Freedom Socialism = Slavery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/07/20 9:18:15 PM #14:	If an organization is created to be a left wing version of PragerU, it most likely is going to be propaganda. The video is literally called "Capitalism vs. Freedom" --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:945585418] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>If an organization is created to be a left wing version of PragerU, it most likely is going to be propaganda. The video is literally called "Capitalism vs. Freedom" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 10/07/20 9:19:46 PM #15:	lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:945585499] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FantasticAssGas 10/07/20 9:20:37 PM #16:	Capitalism IS freedom though... <cite>FantasticAssGas posted [p:945585548] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Capitalism IS freedom though... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 10/07/20 9:24:12 PM #17:	Damn_Underscore posted... It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda. Propaganda and agenda are such flaccid buzzwords. What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound. Which, given that they're countering PragerU, shouldn't be all that hard. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:945585745] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>It's not a counter though, it's just more propaganda but with a different agenda.</quote> Propaganda and agenda are such flaccid buzzwords. What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound. Which, given that they're countering PragerU, shouldn't be all that hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 10/07/20 9:25:22 PM #18:	Evening_Dragon posted... What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound. Who wants to tell him? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:945585812] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound.</quote> Who wants to tell him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 10/07/20 9:25:23 PM #19:	Evening_Dragon posted... What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound. No, they're not. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:945585814] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>What matters is if their presented information and arguments are correct and sound.</quote>No, they're not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 10/07/20 9:25:38 PM #20:	Zephyr Teachout is cool and good. Also right: you are not free if your livelihood is governed by autocrats. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:945585835] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Zephyr Teachout is cool and good. Also right: you are not free if your livelihood is governed by autocrats. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 10/07/20 9:31:39 PM #21:	FantasticAssGas posted... Capitalism IS freedom though... The point is they do not understand what actual freedom is, and yes anyone who is financially in a good place wants less government and more freedom. Communism is NOT freedom and nor is the bullshit of "the green new deal" about environmentalism it has been outed as just communism with some envirementalism words sprinkled in. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:945586161] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>FantasticAssGas posted... </cite> <quote>Capitalism IS freedom though...</quote>The point is they do not understand what actual freedom is, and yes anyone who is financially in a good place wants less government and more freedom. Communism is NOT freedom and nor is the bullshit of "the green new deal" about environmentalism it has been outed as just communism with some envirementalism words sprinkled in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/07/20 9:33:06 PM #22:	Offworlder1 posted... yes anyone who is financially in a good place wants less government and more freedom. lmao I had to laugh at this because a large reason the government exists is to protect wealthy people from socialists --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:945586224] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Offworlder1 posted... </cite> <quote>yes anyone who is financially in a good place wants less government and more freedom.</quote>lmao I had to laugh at this because a large reason the government exists is to protect wealthy people from socialists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 10/07/20 9:36:29 PM #24:	Broseph_Stalin posted... lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it. I missed it. What was the exposure? <cite>Esrac posted [p:945586424] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it.</quote> I missed it. What was the exposure? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 10/07/20 9:39:25 PM #25:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Who wants to tell him? Mike_Stanton posted... No, they're not. You already watched the video, then? --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:945586593] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Who wants to tell him?</quote> Mike_Stanton posted... </cite> <quote>No, they're not.</quote> You already watched the video, then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 10/07/20 9:40:11 PM #26:	Esrac posted... I missed it. What was the exposure? Evening_Dragon posted... You already watched the video, then? Their first video had a bunch misleading statistics on tax rates and wage growth. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:945586631] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>I missed it. What was the exposure?</quote> Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>You already watched the video, then?</quote> Their first video had a bunch misleading statistics on tax rates and wage growth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 10/07/20 9:41:50 PM #27:	Esrac posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it. I missed it. What was the exposure? Broseph_Stalin posted... Their first video had a bunch misleading statistics on tax rates and wage growth. I'll find the topic. Unless it doesn't have gravel in the name, it's already gone. So. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:945586736] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... lol we just had a topic on these guys where their first video got exposed. Propaganda does not become good when you agree with it. I missed it. What was the exposure?</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Their first video had a bunch misleading statistics on tax rates and wage growth.</quote> I'll find the topic. Unless it doesn't have gravel in the name, it's already gone. So. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/07/20 9:42:43 PM #28:	Gravel doesn't even know the argument they want to make. "Capitalism bad! Hurrr!!" is a gross simplification of the bizarre state of regulatory capture and cronyism we've wandered into. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:945586788] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Gravel doesn't even know the argument they want to make. "Capitalism bad! Hurrr!!" is a gross simplification of the bizarre state of regulatory capture and cronyism we've wandered into. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 10/07/20 9:44:08 PM #29:	Blue_Dream87 posted... these videos don't seem to be pushing misinformation. Idk if this video format could exist without pushing misinformation. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:945586851] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Dream87 posted... </cite> <quote>these videos don't seem to be pushing misinformation.</quote> Idk if this video format could exist without pushing misinformation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 10/07/20 9:46:47 PM #30:	Also worth mentioning that there's a direct correlation between political freedom and economic freedom. If these people can name a country that got rid of capitalism and increased freedom I'd love to see it. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:945587008] in Capitalism... [t:79026471]...</cite> <quote>Also worth mentioning that there's a direct correlation between political freedom and economic freedom. If these people can name a country that got rid of capitalism and increased freedom I'd love to see it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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