Board 8 > Tell me about Danganronpa

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Leonhart4 posted...

(not sure I'd put DR1 above any of them

I would absolutely put DR1 above AA4 and DGS1
The original trilogy > DR2 > can't bother to rank the rest but AAI2 is probably next
DR2 is that good

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Eh, I like AJ more than most. DR1 is better as a concept than a game.

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DR1 is my favorite of the DR games. I remember the days before DR2 came out when most of the people who played DR1 were fans...
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Beat the first chapter.

I could tell Sayaka would be either the first killer or the first victim, and figured out it was Leon midway through because he was kind of boring compared to the other characters. What I did not expect was Junko's death. I knew someone would have to die to prove that things were serious, but I expected it to be Leon, the psychic, or the fat guy.

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it was obvious leon was the killer because the "upside down numbers" was the most basic thing ive seen in my life and i figured it out the instant i saw it

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I held out on it being Leon for as long as possible because I knew that the upside-down letters had to be a red herring planted by the real killer

UshiromiyaEva posted...

This wasn't particularly directed at your comment, but more with comments like KPs that imply the games can't be enjoyed without caveats.

I've been accused before of straight up lying about how much I like DR2 and V3 to try and convince people to play them.

I wouldn't accuse you of lying, but it's definitely my opinion that for most people the game can't be enjoyed without caveats. You have to be REALLY okay with anime tropes to fully enjoy the series.

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Paratroopa1 posted...

I held out on it being Leon for as long as possible because I knew that the upside-down letters had to be a red herring planted by the real killer

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that is some hope i wish i held

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The issue with the first case is it was meant to be easily solvable in a country where English is the SECOND language

In a country where English is the first language...yeaaaaaah.

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Is there any reason not to hang out with the same person twice in a day?

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DR1's social point system is much more obtuse than the sequels. That really just depends on the character. I wouldn't worry about it too much, just hang out with who you wanna hang out with.

Definitely don't look it up, because the amount of points it takes to max a character's hang out events in DR1 is a spoiler for approximately how long they last in the sorry for just about all of them. This is was fixed in the sequels where everything is normalized to the same numbers.

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everyone has a certain number of social links, and you have a limited number of periods in which to level them up.

however just spend the time how you want, if you really feel the need to you can get any ones you missed after beating the story.
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Thanks. I was thinking of looking up the characters on TVTropes and the Wiki after beating the game, but I'm worried that even that might lead to spoilers for D2 and D3.

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Just hanging out with the characters you like best is the way to go, yeah.
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Anagram posted...

Thanks. I was thinking of looking up the characters on TVTropes and the Wiki after beating the game, but I'm worried that even that might lead to spoilers for D2 and D3.

Yuuuuuuuuup

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Is there any reason to hang out with someone after getting a star on their profile?

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DR1 has a way to view all those events outside of the main story without having to just replay the game a bunch anyway.

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Anagram posted...

Thanks. I was thinking of looking up the characters on TVTropes and the Wiki after beating the game, but I'm worried that even that might lead to spoilers for D2 and D3.

Never, ever, for any reason, look up anything related to Danganronpa. If you have any questions, you can always come to me, I am very good at dancing around spoilers.

Wow, this random game console item from 2010 looks just like a Wii U controller.

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Oh god, it's doing that Persona thing of asking obscure questions about Japanese geography.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Never, ever, for any reason, look up anything related to Danganronpa. If you have any questions, you can always come to me, I am very good at dancing around spoilers.

I may take you up on that.

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Although that said I forgot the exact specifics on how free times work in DR1 lol. But yeah NEVER look those up, get someone else to do it for you. You do need to present the right kind of gift to get a full scene so that's important.

I played Danganronpa before I played Ace Attorney. I never felt like Ace Attorney lived up to what i was expecting. Yes, DR has flaws, but I felt like I routinely hit much bigger ones in Ace Attorney. I know it's the mascot of Board 8, and a total darling that I don't dare speak ill of, but I'd rather play a new Danganronpa than a new Ace Attorney.

Anagram, do NOT look anything up. The ability to be inadvertently spoiled is absurdly high. Even for simple little things.

As for the first trial, (a) it's meant to be easy, and (b) it's written for people who aren't English-native speakers. There's still enough meat in the development of that story to make it interesting, even if there's a lot of really basic shit happening there.

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If we're talking blanket statement, I would prefer a new DR to a new AA.

If we're talking reality, the new DR (which they did in fact start hiring up for last year) won't be written by Kodaka, and a new AA would assumbaly still be the AA5/6 team, so....would by default have to give the advantage to a new AA.

Funny to me that the DR team without Kodaka is a thing to worry about (hello Zanki Zero), while with AA the last thing you want is Takumi back.

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I assume this is similar to AA, in that you can't miss a piece of evidence, right? Because I keep examining the correct item to progress the story, robbing me of the ability to look at other things.

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Definitely won't actually effect gameplay if you progress without seeing everything. Just flavor text.

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Anagram posted...

I assume this is similar to AA, in that you can't miss a piece of evidence, right? Because I keep examining the correct item to progress the story, robbing me of the ability to look at other things.

correct

azuarc posted...

Anagram, do NOT look anything up. The ability to be inadvertently spoiled is absurdly high. Even for simple little things.

Seconding this. And it won't be minor spoilers either.


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Thanks. It's happened like four times now that I clicked on the story progression item when I didn't know it would do that.

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I actually liked the first one way more than the second. There was a few characters I absolutely hated in 1 and some I really liked. I have no real feeling. Either way on the characters in 2. I didnt manage to finish 2, I had problems with Steam and havent gotten back to finish it yet. Finishing FFVIII again first

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Beat case 2.

I've played four major Japanese series over the course of the last two years (Persona, Resident Evil, Phoenix Wright, and now Danganronpa), and only RE hasn't had a weird trans character issue. Oh well.

Predicting that this mysterious sixteenth high schooler will be someone's twin who's been here all along.

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2 > V3 > 1

I also think I'd be more excited for a new DR release than an AA release, despite thinking the latter is better. With a new DR comes the predictions and fan discussions, which I don't think I've seen from any other franchise. It's a really unique feeling and I'm really surprised that something as silly as Danganronpa can actually achieve it.

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Anagram posted...

Beat case 2.

I've played four major Japanese series over the course of the last two years (Persona, Resident Evil, Phoenix Wright, and now Danganronpa), and only RE hasn't had a weird trans character issue. Oh well.

Predicting that this mysterious sixteenth high schooler will be someone's twin who's been here all along.

They think it's cute or something idk

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

a new AA would assumbaly still be the AA5/6 team

actually Yamazaki (head writer for those games and both AAI games) left Capcom earlier this year

but I'd also be totally cool if the series ended with AA6 for what it's worth

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LeonhartFour posted...

actually Yamazaki (head writer for those games and both AAI games) left Capcom earlier this year

but I'd also be totally cool if the series ended with AA6 for what it's worth

I am not really a huge fan of AA5 and AA6 but I still want another one!
Also surprising he made both AAI games considering how AAI2 is such a step up from his other works

Wish DGS2 translation will be complete soon so I can see if it's worth the hype or not

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It's really badly written, has bad graphics and even worse gameplay. People dismiss any negatives of it as taking it too seriously, even though the games are extremely self-serious (much moreso than AA and Zero Escape) and demand 40+ hours of your time. It's nothing like AA in general (I've only played 1), although it's a little like 1-5 in that it's very long and drawn out for no reason.

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foolm0r0n posted...

It's really badly written, has bad graphics and even worse gameplay. People dismiss any negatives of it as taking it too seriously, even though the games are extremely self-serious (much moreso than AA and Zero Escape) and demand 40+ hours of your time. It's nothing like AA in general (I've only played 1), although it's a little like 1-5 in that it's very long and drawn out for no reason.

I was expecting you and expecting a harsher post
I assume you got tired of bashing the series every time it comes up


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I finished chapter 3 yesterday (technically today after midnight). So far Im honestly not sure what I think.

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I think the second half of the game is better than the first, for what it's worth.

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Chapter 4 is the best one in this game.

I would say nearly every chapter of both DR2 and V3 is better than any chapter in DR1 save for 1-4 and maybe the last depending on how you want to specify that.

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Nanis23 posted...

I assume you got tired of bashing the series every time it comes up

Definitely. Enough other people do it for me nowadays so that's good. As long as people don't feel crazy for not loving it.

A lot of people nowadays do say that 2 is massively better than 1 though. That's not true either. It has a couple nice twists to the formula but it's 90% more of the same (which is good if you liked 1, but it seems like even people who do like started to get sick of the formula by the 3rd game).

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Suprak the Stud posted...

It is pretty close to AA with worse court segments and not fun mini-games shoehorned in.

Story and characters are great though and if you like AA you should like these too!

This. You have to solve the case then assemble an annoying Manga-style puzzle that recaps the murder from start to finish. I'd recommend Googling these puzzles when you reach them to save time (by this point you know the outcome anyway).

DR1 blew me away. Absolutely loved it.

DR2 feels bloated and slowly paced by comparison. I got like 40% through and quit.

DR3 I hear mixed opinions on.

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The pace is slow in all of those games (DRV3 was the worst..it took like 50 hours wtf)
But this is also true for the 3DS Ace Attorney games

I have no idea why they decided to be so text heavy lately

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The 3DS AA games are like 35 hours.

(And AAI2 probably has the longest case average)

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So Celestia could pass for European, but was actually pure Japanese? Eh, fine, okay. I was warned going in that the series was silly.

Speaking of which, whoever said that all of the mini games are awful was right. Every single one is terrible.

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It's just really damn hard to write tight and efficient stories. Like exponentially harder. The difference between AA 1-4 and 1-5 is the most clear example of that. You can clearly feel the massive effort into refining the original cases, that was just missing from 1-5.

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Anagram posted...

Speaking of which, whoever said that all of the mini games are awful was right. Every single one is terrible.

There's one in DR2 that's actually decent, that was pretty surprising

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foolm0r0n posted...

It's just really damn hard to write tight and efficient stories. Like exponentially harder. The difference between AA 1-4 and 1-5 is the most clear example of that. You can clearly feel the massive effort into refining the original cases, that was just missing from 1-5.

This is true, I was not really a fan of 1-5 because it dragged far too long
Shorter can be better sometimes. Look at 3-4

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AA always felt a lot slower to me than DR...though I guess it varies more on a case to case basis with AA. A bad AA case can feel much more seperated from the rest of a game than a bad DR case, making it feel all the more painful. AA4 is probably the biggest offendor there.

Anagram posted...

Speaking of which, whoever said that all of the mini games are awful was right. Every single one is terrible.

This improves significantly in following games, but even as a megafan it's never going to be super good.

As for the stuff that's not specifically a "mini game" but is instead an in-trial mechanic, I think a few of those actually get pretty great.

There's a new one in V3 that's BGM music is so good I could do it for hours.

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Theres only a single halfway decent mini-game and it doesnt appear until V3