Current Events > Using an ability patch on gen 4 or earlier pokemon makes them illegal for online

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NeonOctopus 10/27/20 7:01:23 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudHQgdR2n8 lolGameFreak Imagine grinding out 200 Dynite ores only to get fucked like this --- https://imgur.com/7nfPhE2 <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:946381631] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vudHQgdR2n8 lolGameFreak Imagine grinding out 200 Dynite ores only to get fucked like this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 10/27/20 7:07:48 PM #2:	Can't wait for the Gamefreak defenders to come rolling in --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:946381869] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Can't wait for the Gamefreak defenders to come rolling in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 10/27/20 7:11:00 PM #3:	So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating? --- Hello I'm Duncan, I like Video Games and comedies let's be friends <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:946381966] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 10/27/20 7:12:26 PM #4:	I think the issue might be that this Lugia from Gale of Darkness knows Feather Dance and that particular Lugia can only have Pressure for an Ability since it's from before Hidden Abilities were a thing. So if it were to no longer have Feather Dance, it probably wouldn't be illegal. Still stupid though and something that should definitely be altered because you can legitimately get Feather Dance on Lugia. EDIT: I read the comments and apparently it does cause issues when used on Gen 4 and earlier pokemon. This should definitely be resolved ASAP. There's no good reason that legitimate pokemon from earlier gens should be illegal just because their ability changes if it's legal for the same pokemon in new gens. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:946382011] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>I think the issue might be that this Lugia from Gale of Darkness knows Feather Dance and that particular Lugia can only have Pressure for an Ability since it's from before Hidden Abilities were a thing. So if it were to no longer have Feather Dance, it probably wouldn't be illegal. Still stupid though and something that should definitely be altered because you can legitimately get Feather Dance on Lugia. EDIT: I read the comments and apparently it does cause issues when used on Gen 4 and earlier pokemon. This should definitely be resolved ASAP. There's no good reason that legitimate pokemon from earlier gens should be illegal just because their ability changes if it's legal for the same pokemon in new gens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BatmanWTtP 10/27/20 7:15:19 PM #6:	It's probably due to an illegal move combination, which is stupid since you were able to do it in-game, but this is another example of GameFreak being ass --- I'll never let you win, never. <cite>BatmanWTtP posted [p:946382112] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>It's probably due to an illegal move combination, which is stupid since you were able to do it in-game, but this is another example of GameFreak being ass </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 10/27/20 7:25:32 PM #7:	It's a massive programming error. They'll patch it, but it's still pretty awful for now. Several similar issues came up when Home launched, and then several more when Isle of Armor was released. It takes day to weeks for them to fix it, and sometimes they never bother. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:946382544] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>It's a massive programming error. They'll patch it, but it's still pretty awful for now. Several similar issues came up when Home launched, and then several more when Isle of Armor was released. It takes day to weeks for them to fix it, and sometimes they never bother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 10/27/20 10:21:33 PM #8:	Duncanwii posted... So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating? Its not cheating. The ability patch makes these doable in-game. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:946388901] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating?</quote> Its not cheating. The ability patch makes these doable in-game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 10/27/20 10:23:49 PM #9:	Duncanwii posted... So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating? Duncan, the patch is something the developers put in the game for people to use. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:946388981] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating?</quote> Duncan, the patch is something the developers put in the game for people to use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 10/28/20 10:43:02 AM #10:	bump >_> --- https://imgur.com/2aof3ao <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:946405150] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>bump >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarReaper13 10/28/20 11:04:29 AM #11:	GiftedACIII posted... Its not cheating. The ability patch makes these doable in-game. Evening_Dragon posted... Duncan, the patch is something the developers put in the game for people to use. Duncan doesn't play pokemon games beyond the E4 so he has no idea what he's talking about. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long <cite>StarReaper13 posted [p:946405998] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>GiftedACIII posted... </cite> <quote>Its not cheating. The ability patch makes these doable in-game.</quote> Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>Duncan, the patch is something the developers put in the game for people to use.</quote>Duncan doesn't play pokemon games beyond the E4 so he has no idea what he's talking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 10/28/20 11:14:20 AM #12:	Man, I forgot what crazy shit people say on game boards >_> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/79065757/946406246 --- https://imgur.com/2aof3ao <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:946406334] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Man, I forgot what crazy shit people say on game boards >_> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/79065757/946406246 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 10/28/20 11:20:45 AM #13:	NeonOctopus posted... Man, I forgot what crazy shit people say on game boards >_> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/79065757/946406246 Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:946406555] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>NeonOctopus posted... </cite> <quote>Man, I forgot what crazy shit people say on game boards >_> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/79065757/946406246</quote>Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proto_Spark 10/28/20 11:23:26 AM #14:	Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either. <cite>Proto_Spark posted [p:946406661] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/28/20 11:23:46 AM #15:	StarReaper13 posted... Duncan doesn't play pokemon games beyond the E4 so he has no idea what he's talking about. Seems like he never plays more than a few hours, never mind even getting to the E4 --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:946406671] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>StarReaper13 posted... </cite> <quote>Duncan doesn't play pokemon games beyond the E4 so he has no idea what he's talking about.</quote> Seems like he never plays more than a few hours, never mind even getting to the E4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cadcrafter 10/28/20 11:27:37 AM #16:	Proto_Spark posted... Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either. The patch ends up banning them from unranked battles and raids too --- "think before you press enter. all of you." - SmashFaqs Discord i want lemm to eat ten egg <cite>cadcrafter posted [p:946406810] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Proto_Spark posted... </cite> <quote>Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either.</quote>The patch ends up banning them from unranked battles and raids too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 10/28/20 11:58:00 AM #17:	Rikiaz posted... Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit. People are rightfully upset about dexit, the single worst decision Gamefreak has ever made. Therefore, to counter these people, it's important to defend Gamefreak from literally anything that can be construed as criticism, and to do so with the same intensity you would use to defend your family from a murderer. Proto_Spark posted... Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either. The check prevents using them UNRANKED as well. You can't use them in raids or trade them. Additionally, Gen 8 introduced an NPC that makes your pokemon "Battle Ready." If you take a pokemon from a previous gen to this NPC, it will erase any moves the pokemon can no longer learn and make it allowable in ranked. But this programing error with the legality checker would still mark them. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:946408006] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Rikiaz posted... </cite> <quote>Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit.</quote>People are rightfully upset about dexit, the single worst decision Gamefreak has ever made. Therefore, to counter these people, it's important to defend Gamefreak from literally anything that can be construed as criticism, and to do so with the same intensity you would use to defend your family from a murderer. Proto_Spark posted... </cite> <quote>Arent all Pokmon from pre Gen 8 considered illegal for online? You werent able to play ranked with that Lugia in Gen 8, 7, or 6 either.</quote>The check prevents using them UNRANKED as well. You can't use them in raids or trade them. Additionally, Gen 8 introduced an NPC that makes your pokemon "Battle Ready." If you take a pokemon from a previous gen to this NPC, it will erase any moves the pokemon can no longer learn and make it allowable in ranked. But this programing error with the legality checker would still mark them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/28/20 12:03:31 PM #18:	There's supposed to be an update today that may fix this. EDIT: I was wrong. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:946408226] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>There's supposed to be an update today that may fix this. EDIT: I was wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/28/20 12:04:00 PM #19:	Duncanwii posted... So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating? This is not cheating. It's a completely ingame function. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:946408244] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>So you're complaining that Gamefreak is punishing cheating?</quote>This is not cheating. It's a completely ingame function. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 10/28/20 12:04:36 PM #20:	If thats the price to pay for No Guard Fissure Machamp being illegal then so be it --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://discord.gg/Wgtz2y9 - Come join us for Among Us <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:946408262] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>If thats the price to pay for No Guard Fissure Machamp being illegal then so be it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/28/20 12:05:39 PM #21:	Rikiaz posted... Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit. That guy in that post is also an infamous Nintendo troll. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:946408302] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Rikiaz posted... </cite> <quote>Wow, thats just... what logic makes someone come to that conclusion that something entirely legal in the game, that is 100% not abusing unintended game mechanics, is an exploit.</quote>That guy in that post is also an infamous Nintendo troll. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GallisOTK 10/28/20 12:10:21 PM #22:	Alpha218 posted... If thats the price to pay for No Guard Fissure Machamp being illegal then so be it The Ability Patch can only go from non-HA to HA, not the other way. No Guard Fissure Machamp is still illegal either way. --- "WHAT THE HELL'S GOIN' ON OUT HERE!?" ~ Vince Lombardi https://imgur.com/rDu2AJS <cite>GallisOTK posted [p:946408489] in Using an a... [t:79067746]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>If thats the price to pay for No Guard Fissure Machamp being illegal then so be it</quote> The Ability Patch can only go from non-HA to HA, not the other way. No Guard Fissure Machamp is still illegal either way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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