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HeroDelTiempo17 11/05/20 8:20:50 PM #302:	TheRock1525 posted... But... they are. Maybe not as much as the most progressive ideas but they're certainly doing more expand health coverage and social safety nets than the GOP. They aren't stripping back departments like education or HUD. I know we are just rehashing the argument at some point but Dems just don't convince people they're helping, and voters either don't care about the details of the plans or don't believe them. Trump is at least selling something, and people are buying it. Dems need more used car salesmen in their party since apparently people love that shit --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:946786805] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>But... they are. Maybe not as much as the most progressive ideas but they're certainly doing more expand health coverage and social safety nets than the GOP. They aren't stripping back departments like education or HUD.</quote> I know we are just rehashing the argument at some point but Dems just don't convince people they're helping, and voters either don't care about the details of the plans or don't believe them. Trump is at least selling something, and people are buying it. Dems need more used car salesmen in their party since apparently people love that shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 11/05/20 8:21:16 PM #303:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... The plan should be to slowly ramp up minimum wage, and when we get back to where we were before this pandemic, have more of a yearly increase. i'll use NY as an example as it's the only i'm most familiar with. it was tiered in 4 categories with different pay scales ranging from 2016 to 2021. the max value was $15 and hit differently every year: NYC w/11+ employees - went up $2 every year for 3 years to be $15. NYC w/10 or less - went up $1.50 every year for 4 years to be $15. Long Island and Westchester - went up $1 every year for 5 years to be $15. rest of NY - went up $0.70 cents every year and will continue to do so until it reaches $15. https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage when broken down like this, i think it works really well. but the messaging of $15 min wage is pretty bad since this sort of breakdown isn't what anybody normally thinks of first. edit: and i think the concern of it doubling somebody's pay is remedied in the last situation, where it'll go from $9.70 to $15 over 8 years in steady increments. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:946786826] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote> The plan should be to slowly ramp up minimum wage, and when we get back to where we were before this pandemic, have more of a yearly increase.</quote> i'll use NY as an example as it's the only i'm most familiar with. it was tiered in 4 categories with different pay scales ranging from 2016 to 2021. the max value was $15 and hit differently every year: NYC w/11+ employees - went up $2 every year for 3 years to be $15. NYC w/10 or less - went up $1.50 every year for 4 years to be $15. Long Island and Westchester - went up $1 every year for 5 years to be $15. rest of NY - went up $0.70 cents every year and will continue to do so until it reaches $15. https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage when broken down like this, i think it works really well. but the messaging of $15 min wage is pretty bad since this sort of breakdown isn't what anybody normally thinks of first. edit: and i think the concern of it doubling somebody's pay is remedied in the last situation, where it'll go from $9.70 to $15 over 8 years in steady increments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/05/20 8:22:02 PM #304:	Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946786855] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/05/20 8:22:51 PM #305:	TheRock1525 posted... But... they are. Maybe not as much as the most progressive ideas but they're certainly doing more expand health coverage and social safety nets than the GOP. They aren't stripping back departments like education or HUD. A nebulous promise of expanded health coverage and social safety nets is too complicated, and that ignores all the millions of people in the middle who are just of qualifying range for those benefitsthey get nothing. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:946786889] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted... </cite> <quote>But... they are. Maybe not as much as the most progressive ideas but they're certainly doing more expand health coverage and social safety nets than the GOP. They aren't stripping back departments like education or HUD.</quote> A nebulous promise of expanded health coverage and social safety nets is too complicated, and that ignores all the millions of people in the middle who are just of qualifying range for those benefitsthey get nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/05/20 8:22:54 PM #306:	The Green New Deal is definitely poorly branded and poorly presented and they have done very little to make it seem "safe" for workers in other industries currently. But I feel like now more than ever people wouldn't be willing to listen and will just assume the worst anyway. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:946786891] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>The Green New Deal is definitely poorly branded and poorly presented and they have done very little to make it seem "safe" for workers in other industries currently. But I feel like now more than ever people wouldn't be willing to listen and will just assume the worst anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:23:13 PM #307:	Wanglicious posted... then yeah, that's what i thought you're familiar with here. Fauci thing is the beginning, with heads on pikes. the issue is what he says after that part because it shifts from imaginary exaggerated scenario to dark history to dark, plausible reality right now. jakyl posted it again earlier, i'll do it as well. it's this minute clip. https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1324471538310127618?s=21 first half i really can't think of a more clear 1:1 than the Kathy Griffith head thing. the second, well, good luck if you try your hand at that one because i got nothing. outrage or concern there is well warranted. It starts out as making an example out of them, but then he starts to get a little weird about it lol. Unsure if he was trying to segue into a history lesson there or what. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946786908] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite> <quote>then yeah, that's what i thought you're familiar with here. Fauci thing is the beginning, with heads on pikes. the issue is what he says after that part because it shifts from imaginary exaggerated scenario to dark history to dark, plausible reality right now. jakyl posted it again earlier, i'll do it as well. it's this minute clip. https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1324471538310127618?s=21 first half i really can't think of a more clear 1:1 than the Kathy Griffith head thing. the second, well, good luck if you try your hand at that one because i got nothing. outrage or concern there is well warranted.</quote>It starts out as making an example out of them, but then he starts to get a little weird about it lol. Unsure if he was trying to segue into a history lesson there or what. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuming 11/05/20 8:25:26 PM #308:	Democrats partially are really bad at branding because everyone in the party establishment right now wants the party to appeal to college educated professional class voters. And they are very good at that - but that's a third of the country. AOC, Bernie, and I'll give him credit, to a lesser extent Biden, are all pretty good at connection with the working class. But types like Hillary, Warren, Buttigieg are not really, and when they try it comes across fake and patronizing. And when people try to appeal by running bartenders, or guys from no money who worked odd jobs and wear ratty suits like Bernie - they get pushback which turns people off from the party because they don't feel welcome. When they use slogans or have plans that are digestible and simple - they get pushback. But those things are what give those candidates their appeal! <cite>fuming posted [p:946787009] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Democrats partially are really bad at branding because everyone in the party establishment right now wants the party to appeal to college educated professional class voters. And they are very good at that - but that's a third of the country. AOC, Bernie, and I'll give him credit, to a lesser extent Biden, are all pretty good at connection with the working class. But types like Hillary, Warren, Buttigieg are not really, and when they try it comes across fake and patronizing. And when people try to appeal by running bartenders, or guys from no money who worked odd jobs and wear ratty suits like Bernie - they get pushback which turns people off from the party because they don't feel welcome. When they use slogans or have plans that are digestible and simple - they get pushback. But those things are what give those candidates their appeal! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 11/05/20 8:25:36 PM #309:	So apparently no mailins have been counted yet in Alaska, and there's a very small possibility it might go blue. Uh.... Huh..... --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:946787017] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>So apparently no mailins have been counted yet in Alaska, and there's a very small possibility it might go blue. Uh.... Huh..... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:25:57 PM #310:	https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1324516719608692737 yikes lol --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946787029] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1324516719608692737 yikes lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/05/20 8:26:45 PM #311:	Wanglicious posted... i'll use NY as an example as it's the only i'm most familiar with. it was tiered in 4 categories with different pay scales ranging from 2016 to 2021. the max value was $15 and hit differently every year: NYC w/11+ employees - went up $2 every year for 3 years to be $15. NYC w/10 or less - went up $1.50 every year for 4 years to be $15. Long Island and Westchester - went up $1 every year for 5 years to be $15. rest of NY - went up $0.70 cents every year and will continue to do so until it reaches $15. https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage when broken down like this, i think it works really well. but the messaging of $15 min wage is pretty bad since this sort of breakdown isn't what anybody normally thinks of first. edit: and i think the concern of it doubling somebody's pay is remedied in the last situation, where it'll go from $9.70 to $15 over 8 years in steady increments. Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:946787076] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite> <quote>i'll use NY as an example as it's the only i'm most familiar with. it was tiered in 4 categories with different pay scales ranging from 2016 to 2021. the max value was $15 and hit differently every year: NYC w/11+ employees - went up $2 every year for 3 years to be $15. NYC w/10 or less - went up $1.50 every year for 4 years to be $15. Long Island and Westchester - went up $1 every year for 5 years to be $15. rest of NY - went up $0.70 cents every year and will continue to do so until it reaches $15. https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage when broken down like this, i think it works really well. but the messaging of $15 min wage is pretty bad since this sort of breakdown isn't what anybody normally thinks of first. edit: and i think the concern of it doubling somebody's pay is remedied in the last situation, where it'll go from $9.70 to $15 over 8 years in steady increments.</quote>Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/05/20 8:29:01 PM #312:	"We shouldn't consider X until things are different" is the enemy of progress. The economy will never be stable. You either start taking steps now or it never happens. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946787173] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>"We shouldn't consider X until things are different" is the enemy of progress. The economy will never be stable. You either start taking steps now or it never happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 11/05/20 8:29:08 PM #313:	Corrik7 posted... It starts out as making an example out of them, but then he starts to get a little weird about it lol. Unsure if he was trying to segue into a history lesson there or what. yeah that "little weird about it" part is the thing that freaks people out. technically yeah, it's a mini history lesson but that is a really bad time to do it since it sounds like something you actually want to do since these are very real terms being used on people and you're asking for people who get called it to die. you hear the "making an example" part. then hear the part after talking about revolution, civil war, traitors, all that. then go back to the example. and it's an "oh shit" moment. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:946787180] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>It starts out as making an example out of them, but then he starts to get a little weird about it lol. Unsure if he was trying to segue into a history lesson there or what.</quote> yeah that "little weird about it" part is the thing that freaks people out. technically yeah, it's a mini history lesson but that is a really bad time to do it since it sounds like something you actually want to do since these are very real terms being used on people and you're asking for people who get called it to die. you hear the "making an example" part. then hear the part after talking about revolution, civil war, traitors, all that. then go back to the example. and it's an "oh shit" moment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuming 11/05/20 8:31:22 PM #314:	KamikazePotato posted... Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try Democrats should try a lot harder to appeal to emotion! Some of you are baffled that voters do not always behave in the way you perceive as the logical way to vote, and then when people say it's because voters are not logic robots, but emotional and can't bring themselves to support people that they distrust and don't like who only offer the bare minimum more than the other guy because they are tired of the lies and manipulation and disappointment, you just call them stupid. To a lot of non voters, continuing to support democrats hoping for anything to get better seems illogical and stupid! <cite>fuming posted [p:946787279] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try</quote> Democrats should try a lot harder to appeal to emotion! Some of you are baffled that voters do not always behave in the way you perceive as the logical way to vote, and then when people say it's because voters are not logic robots, but emotional and can't bring themselves to support people that they distrust and don't like who only offer the bare minimum more than the other guy because they are tired of the lies and manipulation and disappointment, you just call them stupid. To a lot of non voters, continuing to support democrats hoping for anything to get better seems illogical and stupid! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/05/20 8:32:34 PM #315:	KamikazePotato posted... "We shouldn't consider X until things are different" is the enemy of progress. The economy will never be stable. You either start taking steps now or it never happens. I felt the economy BEFORE the pandemic was perfectly stable for implementing something like that. But it's going to take time to get back there now. Doing this sort of thing on a federal level now does not help small businesses. We should be taking a step to getting our economy back to where it was as a priority. I'm all about increasing minimum wage, but doing it at the significant rate presented when a bunch of small businesses are either shuttered or seriously struggling now isn't a good idea. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:946787338] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>"We shouldn't consider X until things are different" is the enemy of progress. The economy will never be stable. You either start taking steps now or it never happens.</quote>I felt the economy BEFORE the pandemic was perfectly stable for implementing something like that. But it's going to take time to get back there now. Doing this sort of thing on a federal level now does not help small businesses. We should be taking a step to getting our economy back to where it was as a priority. I'm all about increasing minimum wage, but doing it at the significant rate presented when a bunch of small businesses are either shuttered or seriously struggling now isn't a good idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/05/20 8:34:00 PM #316:	Corrik7 posted... https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1324516719608692737 yikes lol Deserved --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:946787400] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1324516719608692737 yikes lol </quote> Deserved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:34:01 PM #317:	Democrat in Alaska seems to think he will win that Senate seat. We will see on that one. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946787401] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Democrat in Alaska seems to think he will win that Senate seat. We will see on that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 11/05/20 8:36:34 PM #318:	I think Alaska is still a long shot, but if it did switch seats that would be absolutely wild. --- https://m.twitch.tv/sorozone/profile <cite>Sorozone posted [p:946787521] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>I think Alaska is still a long shot, but if it did switch seats that would be absolutely wild. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:37:14 PM #319:	https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1324517060903202816 --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946787547] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1324517060903202816 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 11/05/20 8:37:49 PM #320:	fuming posted... Democrats should try a lot harder to appeal to emotion The problem is, anytime we do that the Republicans scream at us for 'appealing to emotion' and say that we're 'virtue signaling.' points at Sandy Hook "The bodies aren't even cold yet!" they'll scream every time a mass shooting happens and we want some level of gun control beyond "Let fucking everyone have guns." (Then as soon as an undocumented immigrant kills someone, they'll SCREAM AND SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS how illegal immigration is so dangerous) --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:946787574] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>fuming posted... </cite> <quote>Democrats should try a lot harder to appeal to emotion</quote> The problem is, anytime we do that the Republicans scream at us for 'appealing to emotion' and say that we're 'virtue signaling.' points at Sandy Hook "The bodies aren't even cold yet!" they'll scream every time a mass shooting happens and we want some level of gun control beyond "Let fucking everyone have guns." (Then as soon as an undocumented immigrant kills someone, they'll SCREAM AND SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS how illegal immigration is so dangerous) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:40:02 PM #321:	Corrik7 posted... Democrat in Alaska seems to think he will win that Senate seat. We will see on that one. That's crazy talk. The polling would have to be absurdly off in the other direction for this to be even close. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946787682] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>Democrat in Alaska seems to think he will win that Senate seat. We will see on that one.</quote> That's crazy talk. The polling would have to be absurdly off in the other direction for this to be even close. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:40:22 PM #322:	https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1324519655114002433 --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946787694] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/status/1324519655114002433 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:40:57 PM #323:	I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946787720] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/05/20 8:42:12 PM #324:	Suprak the Stud posted... That's crazy talk. The polling would have to be absurdly off in the other direction for this to be even close. Well... --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:946787769] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote> That's crazy talk. The polling would have to be absurdly off in the other direction for this to be even close. </quote> Well...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:42:32 PM #325:	Suprak the Stud posted... I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point. What? You mean %? Trump is gonna lose PA by 150k. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946787779] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point.</quote>What? You mean %? Trump is gonna lose PA by 150k. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/05/20 8:43:47 PM #326:	KamikazePotato posted... Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try This may be true but I can still blame the political party with money and power that should know all this and sucks at winning elections --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:946787857] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Democrats can be bad at branding but people never seem willing to admit that maybe voters are fucking stupid and branding is hard when dealing with a populace that runs on a single shared brain cell It's easy for the GOP because all they have to do is appeal to hateful emotion. Democrats have to actually try</quote> This may be true but I can still blame the political party with money and power that should know all this and sucks at winning elections </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 11/05/20 8:44:17 PM #327:	Suprak the Stud posted... I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point. No offense, but every single GA update you keep saying "it's getting further" and literally every other analyst is saying "it's getting easier" <_< --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:946787882] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like Trump is going to win Arizona by as much as Biden wins Pennsylvania at this point.</quote> No offense, but every single GA update you keep saying "it's getting further" and literally every other analyst is saying "it's getting easier" <_< </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 11/05/20 8:45:18 PM #328:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy. well... considering covid is STILL fucking with a bunch of businesses, that's fair. but the answer there really is that there should be a stimulus to help businesses up front in the first place. if this were to become the policy there should be one of those forgiven loans again where it'd be a case of 'look, hire people at the new min wage standard, get your loan forgiven.' just spitballing ideas there but do think the two would need to be hand in hand, especially right now. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:946787912] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy.</quote> well... considering covid is STILL fucking with a bunch of businesses, that's fair. but the answer there really is that there should be a stimulus to help businesses up front in the first place. if this were to become the policy there should be one of those forgiven loans again where it'd be a case of 'look, hire people at the new min wage standard, get your loan forgiven.' just spitballing ideas there but do think the two would need to be hand in hand, especially right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:47:04 PM #329:	https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1324505584117391360 --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946788002] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1324505584117391360 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:48:01 PM #330:	Corrik7 posted... What? You mean %? Trump is gonna lose PA by 150k. By %, yeah. Not raw vote. Trump is on pace to lose PA by at least 75k (up to 150k depending on percentages). UshiromiyaEva posted... No offense, but every single GA update you keep saying "it's getting further" and literally every other analyst is saying "it's getting easier" <_< So I only did three updates before I gave up on my very rough model! But it was 1.5k loss to 3.5k loss to 1k loss. So what you're saying isn't true. Also I said that my model was very conservative on how much better Biden did in mail in ballot, and it was egregiously wrong in red counties where Biden did much better than my estimate of a 10 point swing. The problem was I was using a ten point swing based on how he was doing in blue counties, but the swing was actually much more significant in red counties. And I just quit then because I realized my model was dumb and I'd need to make a more complex one which I didn't feel like whipping up. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946788037] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>What? You mean %? Trump is gonna lose PA by 150k.</quote> By %, yeah. Not raw vote. Trump is on pace to lose PA by at least 75k (up to 150k depending on percentages). UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>No offense, but every single GA update you keep saying "it's getting further" and literally every other analyst is saying "it's getting easier" <_<</quote> So I only did three updates before I gave up on my very rough model! But it was 1.5k loss to 3.5k loss to 1k loss. So what you're saying isn't true. Also I said that my model was very conservative on how much better Biden did in mail in ballot, and it was egregiously wrong in red counties where Biden did much better than my estimate of a 10 point swing. The problem was I was using a ten point swing based on how he was doing in blue counties, but the swing was actually much more significant in red counties. And I just quit then because I realized my model was dumb and I'd need to make a more complex one which I didn't feel like whipping up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 11/05/20 8:48:51 PM #331:	Corrik7 posted... https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1324505584117391360 Don't worry about that. Anyone who tries to remove and arrest the president is just acting of their own accord and it's not Keith Olbermann's fault for saying words. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:946788077] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1324505584117391360</quote> Don't worry about that. Anyone who tries to remove and arrest the president is just acting of their own accord and it's not Keith Olbermann's fault for saying words. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crossfiyah 11/05/20 8:49:47 PM #332:	https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html?fbclid=IwAR19ksNF0mAKMcLQidewtnl4ghOiN_XgVc4Xe_9SMS5-iI_BrA7vmKM5aiY Trump isn't even on pace in AZ either right now. We'll see the next Maricopa drop but he's behind now. --- Jagr_68: "hittes Blake Kesseguin a super saiyan NHL star who gives earth a chance to win the Cell gaemz" <cite>Crossfiyah posted [p:946788122] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html?fbclid=IwAR19ksNF0mAKMcLQidewtnl4ghOiN_XgVc4Xe_9SMS5-iI_BrA7vmKM5aiY Trump isn't even on pace in AZ either right now. We'll see the next Maricopa drop but he's behind now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:50:26 PM #333:	What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946788162] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 11/05/20 8:50:56 PM #334:	KamikazePotato posted... Also this is a very useful site: https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html Who is this person and what is their gamefaqs username This is exactly what I wanted and it's straight up a gfaqs contest stats app --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = azuarc <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:946788184] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>Also this is a very useful site: https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html</quote>Who is this person and what is their gamefaqs username This is exactly what I wanted and it's straight up a gfaqs contest stats app </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/05/20 8:51:09 PM #335:	Wanglicious posted... well... considering covid is STILL fucking with a bunch of businesses, that's fair. but the answer there really is that there should be a stimulus to help businesses up front in the first place. if this were to become the policy there should be one of those forgiven loans again where it'd be a case of 'look, hire people at the new min wage standard, get your loan forgiven.' just spitballing ideas there but do think the two would need to be hand in hand, especially right now. Covid is literally keeping small businesses in a constant state of uncertainty, and adding on a creeping increase in costs for employees doesn't help. But yes, there needs to be a stimulus for small businesses now and isn't one now. There are ideas they could try, but I feel like anything gets shot down even with Biden in charge, because they would have to be forced to add something that benefits big businesses a lot more to get it through which sucks. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:946788194] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite> <quote>well... considering covid is STILL fucking with a bunch of businesses, that's fair. but the answer there really is that there should be a stimulus to help businesses up front in the first place. if this were to become the policy there should be one of those forgiven loans again where it'd be a case of 'look, hire people at the new min wage standard, get your loan forgiven.' just spitballing ideas there but do think the two would need to be hand in hand, especially right now.</quote>Covid is literally keeping small businesses in a constant state of uncertainty, and adding on a creeping increase in costs for employees doesn't help. But yes, there needs to be a stimulus for small businesses now and isn't one now. There are ideas they could try, but I feel like anything gets shot down even with Biden in charge, because they would have to be forced to add something that benefits big businesses a lot more to get it through which sucks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:51:12 PM #336:	Crossfiyah posted... https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html?fbclid=IwAR19ksNF0mAKMcLQidewtnl4ghOiN_XgVc4Xe_9SMS5-iI_BrA7vmKM5aiY Trump isn't even on pace in AZ either right now. We'll see the next Maricopa drop but he's behind now. I'd hope not figuring Maricopa isn't reporting yet and it's been blue areas. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946788198] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Crossfiyah posted... </cite> <quote>https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html?fbclid=IwAR19ksNF0mAKMcLQidewtnl4ghOiN_XgVc4Xe_9SMS5-iI_BrA7vmKM5aiY Trump isn't even on pace in AZ either right now. We'll see the next Maricopa drop but he's behind now.</quote>I'd hope not figuring Maricopa isn't reporting yet and it's been blue areas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:51:40 PM #337:	That big recent one is from Pima, which is why it is closer (only 52% Trump). Maricopa was much more slanted yesterday. The prediction is today wouldn't be as bad, but if it is Trump is actually ahead of pace. If that website is right and there are that many outstanding votes left. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946788224] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>That big recent one is from Pima, which is why it is closer (only 52% Trump). Maricopa was much more slanted yesterday. The prediction is today wouldn't be as bad, but if it is Trump is actually ahead of pace. If that website is right and there are that many outstanding votes left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:53:46 PM #339:	Corrik7 posted... What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? I believe former prisoners have to fight each other in a The Running Man type of scenario. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946788310] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone?</quote> I believe former prisoners have to fight each other in a The Running Man type of scenario. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 11/05/20 8:54:06 PM #340:	Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:946788327] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/05/20 8:54:37 PM #341:	Every other state besides PA is just foreplay anyway PA is going to be an easy win and that's all he needs --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946788350] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Every other state besides PA is just foreplay anyway PA is going to be an easy win and that's all he needs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/05/20 8:55:05 PM #342:	masterplum posted... Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing Yeah not sure what's going on there. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:946788373] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing</quote>Yeah not sure what's going on there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 11/05/20 8:56:55 PM #343:	Corrik7 posted... What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? legit what i expect to be his christmas gift or january finale. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:946788466] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone?</quote> legit what i expect to be his christmas gift or january finale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/05/20 8:57:07 PM #344:	Corrik7 posted... What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? But that would include HILLARY --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:946788474] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>What would happen if a President literally just pardoned everyone? </quote> But that would include HILLARY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 11/05/20 8:57:34 PM #345:	masterplum posted... Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing Whered you hear this --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD Guru! <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:946788493] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing</quote>Whered you hear this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:57:36 PM #346:	It appears he can sweeping pardon. Would be crazy to pardon every single person including for crimes committed or that may have been committed in the past. 0.o --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946788494] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>It appears he can sweeping pardon. Would be crazy to pardon every single person including for crimes committed or that may have been committed in the past. 0.o </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 11/05/20 8:58:02 PM #347:	foolm0r0n posted... Who is this person and what is their gamefaqs username This is exactly what I wanted and it's straight up a gfaqs contest stats app honestly, the one we have for gamefaqs is better. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:946788515] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite> <quote>Who is this person and what is their gamefaqs username This is exactly what I wanted and it's straight up a gfaqs contest stats app</quote> honestly, the one we have for gamefaqs is better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 11/05/20 8:58:32 PM #348:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy. It should never be considered on a federal level. There's a reason that highly specific NYC scheme sounded good to you. It's perfectly optimized for their local economy. There is no way to do it effectively at a federal or even a state level in many cases. That's what's statists can never get into their heads. If it works in their backyard then there's no chance it won't work on every square inch of the globe. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = azuarc <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:946788530] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Now see, this all seems a lot more reasonable to me. But I don't think this sort of system should be considered at all on a federal level until we havea more stable economy.</quote>It should never be considered on a federal level. There's a reason that highly specific NYC scheme sounded good to you. It's perfectly optimized for their local economy. There is no way to do it effectively at a federal or even a state level in many cases. That's what's statists can never get into their heads. If it works in their backyard then there's no chance it won't work on every square inch of the globe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 8:58:50 PM #349:	masterplum posted... Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing Well, couple of things. A huge chunk of those are from the Atlanta adjacent county that was giving Biden even better margins than Fulton. And there are still a ton of provisional ballots out (3k in Atlanta by itself) that are not included in those totals and are expected to heavily skew Biden. So hope is not lost there yet! --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946788548] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing</quote> Well, couple of things. A huge chunk of those are from the Atlanta adjacent county that was giving Biden even better margins than Fulton. And there are still a ton of provisional ballots out (3k in Atlanta by itself) that are not included in those totals and are expected to heavily skew Biden. So hope is not lost there yet! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/05/20 8:58:54 PM #350:	masterplum posted... Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing I believe what happened there was that Fulton batch for 11 some K they added but never took the votes off for it. Imo. Like I said before, there is only 4 counties left. 1 is Blue. The other 3 red. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:946788553] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite> <quote>Well Georgia went from looking solid Biden to not Biden based on 12000 estimated votes disappearing</quote>I believe what happened there was that Fulton batch for 11 some K they added but never took the votes off for it. Imo. Like I said before, there is only 4 counties left. 1 is Blue. The other 3 red. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/05/20 9:00:39 PM #351:	Hbthebattle posted... Whered you hear this https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html They updated their total outstanding left. There's is sort of a guess, so it is possible they just thought there was more than there actually are or some counties reported without them realizing. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:946788621] in Politics C... [t:79088297]...</cite> <quote>Hbthebattle posted... </cite> <quote>Whered you hear this</quote> https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html They updated their total outstanding left. There's is sort of a guess, so it is possible they just thought there was more than there actually are or some counties reported without them realizing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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