Current Events > I think I'm gonna play Dark Souls for the first time

(+) Yeah! (+)

Remastered..... on the switch.

Never played a Souls game so well see how this goes

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Your instinct will be to button mash and play like every action RPG you've ever played.

The way to "git gud" is to be patient. Souls games aren't hard, they just require different pacing and learning enemy movesets.

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Some things: resistance is useless, and faith/ intelligence don't really matter if you're going for a melee build. If you go normal melee, the stats you want to level are vit/end/str/dex.

Your str/dex spread depends on what weapons you end up liking but I won't go further than that to avoid making it seem overwhelming.

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Dont fall into the trap of using the starting, shitty weapon with no range throughout the game.

Learn stamina management.

Understand that certain weapons or certain attacks from some weapons will had a bad hitbox on certain enemies.

You'll do fine then.
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You will want to play something else, you will get frustrated, you will quit, you will lose, you will hate this game, and this game will hate you

but if you persevere my friend.. if you power through your losing and your lack of skill

you will be greatly rewarded with a sense of accomplishment and incredible lore

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i didn't see him asking for advice.
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It's not as hard as it's made out to be

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Ok here we go

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He's under no obligation to take it, just as you are under no obligation to continuously shit your pants.
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1. NEVER level Resistance.
2. The key is the best starting gift, but very op. Wouldn't recommend on a first playthtough, imo.
3. Dexterity stat also improves spell casting speed (Level 45 being the hard cap)
4. When progressing through the game, you want to go up instead of down, but you're relatively free to explore.
5. Never kill NPC's unless they're aggressive to you first, but even then you don't have to kill them. They can reset their agro, by paying for your sins.
6. Don't get too attached to your Souls early on.

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Oh god already Im indecisive about my class

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Fluttershy posted...

i didn't see him asking for advice.

Who cares?

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Death run for the Zwei, pump up STR and its easy mode

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Your class doesnt really matter tbh.

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BlueBoy675 posted...

Oh god already Im indecisive about my class

What's your playstyle preference?

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BlueBoy675 posted...

Oh god already Im indecisive about my class

Just go deprived
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Death run for the Zwei, pump up STR and its easy mode

Zweihander isn't a Strength weapon though, but rather a quality weapon where it scales with both Dexterity and Strength.

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BlameAnesthesia posted...

Your instinct will be to button mash and play like every action RPG you've ever played.

The way to "git gud" is to be patient. Souls games aren't hard, they just require different pacing and learning enemy movesets.

I'm not mad at this post, but I wanna nit-pick something that bothers me.

The argument that a game isn't hard because you can learn to be good at it. That makes pretty much every game not be able to qualify as hard and you just throw away even having the conversation. It makes much more sense to judge a games difficulty by stuff like its initial accessibility. And even when you factor that in, you're not getting to a point in Dark Souls where you can just coast because you figured it out and have the upgrades to breeze pass most stuff. It keeps punishing you with harder enemies and different movesets.

Plenty of games DON'T do this stuff and it's why Dark Souls earned it's difficulty reputation. Why does it get to so many people that it's considered hard? Nobody worthwhile has implied that hard has to mean you can never be good at it. But that seems to be how people approach this conversation about Dark Souls.

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BlueBoy675 posted...

Oh god already Im indecisive about my class

Just affects starting stats. You can play them all the same, just if you had a playstyle in mind, that "class" will get you there faster in terms of weapon or magic requirements.

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Who cares?

i do. the souls community sucks about letting people play it for themselves and letting them figure out things out on their own.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Dont fall into the trap of using the starting, shitty weapon with no range throughout the game.

Learn stamina management.

Understand that certain weapons or certain attacks from some weapons will had a bad hitbox on certain enemies.

You'll do fine then.

This is terrible general advice. Longsword is one of the starting weapons and it's great.

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RedJackson posted...

You will want to play something else, you will get frustrated, you will quit, you will lose, you will hate this game, and this game will hate you

but if you persevere my friend.. if you power through your losing and your lack of skill

you will be greatly rewarded with a sense of accomplishment and incredible lore

Hell, Id recommend that you do have a game to play when you get frustrated. Cause them you stay in the gaming mind space and after an hour goes by you're ready to give it another shot. I'm a From Soft veteran and I think I still had like 3 games going while getting through Sekiro lol

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I'm not mad at this post, but I wanna nit-pick something that bothers me.

The argument that a game isn't hard because you can learn to be good at it. That makes pretty much every game not be able to qualify as hard and you just throw away even having the conversation. It makes much more sense to judge a games difficulty by stuff like its initial accessibility. And even when you factor that in, you're not getting to a point in Dark Souls where you can just coast because you figured it out and have the upgrades to breeze pass most stuff. It keeps punishing you with harder enemies and different movesets.

Plenty of games DON'T do this stuff and it's why Dark Souls earned it's difficulty reputation. Why does it get to so many people that it's considered hard? Nobody worthwhile has implied that hard has to mean you can never be good at it. But that seems to be how people approach this conversation about Dark Souls.

My apologies. The only reason I framed it that way was because I found souls games deeply rewarding once it "clicked", but plenty of people are dissuaded by the initial difficulty. That was my attempt at preventing the bias from setting in. "This game is too hard and therefore unenjoyable" vs "This game is simply testing my ability to learn new mechanics, I'll get it with some practice."

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I went thief. Chose the ring that boosts HP

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MarthGoomba posted...

Just go deprived

Don't do him like that

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BlueBoy675 posted...

I went thief. Chose the ring that boosts HP

Choosing Thief also nets you the ring the other user told you about

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BlueBoy675 posted...

I went thief. Chose the ring that boosts HP

IIRC there's a translation error regarding that ring in the English language version where it says (in the gift screen) that it boosts HP regen, but in reality it raises your max hp a bit.
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Please post here every time you are triggered

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Zodd3224 posted...

Please post here every time you are triggered

Thats the plan. Im ready for pain

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Got my ass handed to on the first boss and haven't picked it up since lmao.

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Are bonfires checkpoints?

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Basically yes

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Slaya4 posted...

Got my ass handed to on the first boss and haven't picked it up since lmao.

Dude, you have to pick up the key to open your prison cell door. lmao

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BlameAnesthesia posted...

My apologies. The only reason I framed it that way was because I found souls games deeply rewarding once it "clicked", but plenty of people are dissuaded by the initial difficulty. That was my attempt at preventing the bias from setting in. "This game is too hard and therefore unenjoyable" vs "This game is simply testing my ability to learn new mechanics, I'll get it with some practice."

Fair enough. I try to make sure that post didn't seem to make it like I was specifically targeting you. I tend to just build up and then find a post that finally hits me in a mood where I feel like talking about it.

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Anyway TC feel free to ask questions freely. Going in blind made my first attempts at playing the game suck major ass. You'll know well enough what you want clarified and what you want to discover for yourself imo.

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1. Vitality to 25 should be your first priority
2. Find a weapon with a moveset you like, they can all be upgraded.
3. Bonfires are checkpoints, but they make every enemy respawn. Be careful.
4. Have fun, and don't give up.

We believe in you!

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7. Pyromancy doesn't require any Faith or Intelligence stat investment. Strictly upgrades with souls.
8. The game has several tiers of rolling
- Fast roll - Achievable at .25% load weight and under
- Medium roll -
- Fat roll -
9. If you go into Human form you can summom other players, and NPCs for limited help (until they die or the boss of your current area is dead)


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Anyway TC feel free to ask questions freely. Going in blind made my first attempts at playing the game suck major ass. You'll know well enough what you want clarified and what you want to discover for yourself imo.

there you go.
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Also your stamina regens more slowly if you're blocking. Probably the most important thing anyone told me about this game lol

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10. Two-handing weapons grants you an additional 1.25* damage boost to your weapons

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Vicious_Dios posted...

10. Two-handing weapoms grants you an additional 1.25* damage boost to your weapons

It also boosts the strength stat.
If a weapon needs 20strength you can use it with two hands so long as you have 16 strength.

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so theres a locked door and I have a master key but I cant open it

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Or do I have to kill the big monster guy

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Master key only unlocks certain doors. It's a shame you started with it because it can really break the natural pacing of the game.
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First death lol

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I don't really want to spoil anything or say too much to affect the way you approach the game but I hope you enjoy it because it really is that good.

I would up front say that patience and persistence outweigh pretty much everything. Also don't listen to the "git gud" people, half of them are just trying to make the game sound difficult for their own ego because they were able to beat it.

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Lordran is my favorite game world in all of gaming

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Zodd3224 posted...

Lordran is my favorite game world in all of gaming

I personally liked Bloodborne's setting a lot more.
Its the only platinum trophy I have (dlc included).
Fromsoft is great at world building and atmosphere.

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meestermj posted...

I personally liked Bloodborne's setting a lot more.
Its the only platinum trophy I have (dlc included).
Fromsoft is great at world building and atmosphere.

Berserk is my favorite story and Lordran nails the feel of Midland. But I also love Lovecraft and Bloodborne nails that as well. I feel like the areas and the world design in Lordran are more distinct and memorable than in Yharnam but you can't go wrong with either.

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Almost beat the first boss but got wrecked. Going in again!

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