Current Events > Are you capable of separating the art from the artist?

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For example, meatloaf. Hes got pretty shit beliefs, but his music is good.
Or michael jackson, if you believe he did what was alleged

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Sometimes. Idk. It really just depends for me I think.

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if i was already invested, sometimes. maybe even usually. but getting into someone new? i'll find someone else, thanks.

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Medussa posted...

if i was already invested, sometimes. maybe even usually. but getting into someone new? i'll find someone else, thanks.

Yeah I guess this is generally how I am.

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Yes, kevin spacey and james wood are both great actors

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It is impossible to do that with idols
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Benoit

Meatloaf has a shit name

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Medussa posted...

if i was already invested, sometimes. maybe even usually. but getting into someone new? i'll find someone else, thanks.

Well yeah. Tainting from the get go is hard to overlook

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It sort of depends on if I liked their stuff before they came out as shit birds. Michael Jackson was always the king of pop. He was weird but you could recognize his skill. Roman Polanski, I have never seen one of his movies, by all measures I hear I should love it, but refuse to watch any of his movies.

Tom Cruise is a particularly interesting one. I think he is weird as fuck and I don't want to support him, but I can't help but enjoy many of his movies.

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Yes, I loved mad max an apocalyptica

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I can do it with R Kelly or Michael Jackson because their moral character isn't necessarily linked to the product. Not that I'm a huge fan of either.

I can't do it with Bill Cosby because his whole act and characters reek of arrogance looking backwards in context and I can't take him seriously. I was a big Bill Cosby fan growing up.

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Also I find it much easier to look past film actors shitty behaviour. They're really such a small part of the production in the grand scheme of things

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Edification posted...

Benoit

the guy who killed his family in a murder suicide? I guess if you consider that he became severely mentally ill after his popular years but I don't really know much about the situation.

Harvey Weinstein movies are another example. He was a monster but he wasn't in the product.

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Yeah, although I don't always do it. I pretty much wrote off Frank Miller during that... phase.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

Yeah, although I don't always do it. I pretty much wrote off Frank Miller during that... phase.

what'd he do?

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Sometimes yes.

Other times no. I'm never gonna watch something with Mel Gibson or Kevin Hart (not that Kevin hart is talented anyway)

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Medussa posted...

if i was already invested, sometimes. maybe even usually. but getting into someone new? i'll find someone else, thanks.

Yeah mostly this

its hard for me to give up, say, Brand New

but i avoid metal bands with Nazi connections like MGLA because theres enough good music out there that I dont need to start with bands like that

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berlyman101 posted...

Harvey Weinstein movies are another example. He was a monster but he wasn't in the product.

Yeah, I mean that's literally discrediting the work of thousands of people because the guy who secured financing was a shitbag

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berlyman101 posted...

what'd he do?

He was really physically ill probaby 10 or so years ago, wrote Holy Terror which is really racist and turned into a right-wing spaz on social media. He's since claimed that it was the illness and resultant stress affecting his judgement, but... meh. Whatever.

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Yes but only if I like the artist. cause if I hate the artist then I can't watch/listen to anything theydo

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Generally separating art from the artist means that I still enjoy things that they made in the past, but I don't support future projects from them, etc.

There are occasionally situations where the offenses are egregious enough or contradictory enough to their persona that I can't even do that though tbh.

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Anteaterking posted...

Generally separating art from the artist means that I still enjoy things that they made in the past, but I don't support future projects from them, etc.

This for me too.

Im pretty big into rap so I kind of have to.

That said I also went through my Warped Tour phase and stopped listening to a lot of artists who turned out to be abusers or pedos which was way too common in the 2010s.

At least with rap a lot of them are gang members first and musicians second so crime is kind of expected. Not so much for mallcore.

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