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Endgame posted...

Well, he's right. I live in Florida and most maskless idiots are indeed white.

The only black person I've seen that hasn't worn a mask recently was this one woman who was guarding the ballot box when I went to turn in my ballot. (I rejected the I Voted sticker because of her. Didn't want to get near her.)

Hell, whenever I get a black dasher from Doordash, they are almost always wearing masks while it's generally the white dashers that don't.

I live in sc and most people wear masks, although most people arnt wearing them correctly. I shouldn't say much though. I have diabetes and asthma and i wear a mask whenever i go out, which is rare.

I can't speak for all white people but it bothers me to be lumped in with a group of people who do something wrong when i go out of my way to do things. I wore a mask the entire time i was in the hospital even though the nurses told me i didn't have too because i wanted them to feel safer around me.

I don't know. I guess i don't want to think of myself as a bad person when someine is saying the group of people i belong to is bad.

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That show felt like they didnt have material written because they expected to have a winner earlier in the week.

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Smells like snowflakes in here

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GameofWheels posted...

Smells like snowflakes in here

Yeah, what is going on is so much crazier than when he makes the left mad.

Kastrada posted...

Are the SNL crowds at half capacity or something? The front crowd looks normal but I don't know what it's like in the upper sections. Burr's, Mulaney's and now Dave's have all had about the same levels of laughter.

I would assume that because of the covid. But yeah not all of his jokes landed, but when they did they landed hard lol.

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That's been in his routines forever. Wasn't it one of his very first specials where he was talking about how only white people are fucked up enough to be mass shooters or whatever? It's funny. And it also happens to be true, almost all serial killers are white men who think they're a lot more special than they actually are.

I don't see how someone can be offended by the truth unless they feel personally attacked by it?

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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

Yeah, what is going on is so much crazier than when he makes the left mad.

That's not who I see mad in this topic

love his skit it was fucking funny yall need to stop being snowflakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMJWeluZ3tI

I thought Bill Burr was funnier but Dave Chappelle still killed it.

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_TrustOurAces_ posted...

That's not who I see mad in this topic

I saw like one person and this bit about any other group of people would get someone banned from mainstream tv. I like anyone who is cool with destroying everyone. Let's not act these are the people getting outraged constantly and trying to ruin lives for harmless jokes.

Dave's very adept to what happens around him and pulls it into a narrative/his next skit. Sometimes it's weak, because what he had to go off was weak. But that seems to be a part of his live-and-die, and majority of the time it works.

He is, like another person said, also just speaking his mind with less concern of fully crafting a theatrical skit out of it. Half of it is funny observation, another half is conveying his perspective.

And how he escalates his conversation about white people is a bit of a spin of how (some) white people talk of black people. If you replace "white" with "black" in his dialogue, you've probably heard those same statements before. It's teetering on a line of "stooping to their level", but I didn't think he crossed it. Did enough to make people think about it in one way or another.

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Wasnt his best but had some funny parts. Didnt make fun of white ppl anymore than he usually does

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Chappelle shows was amazing, but that's because he had a team of amazing writers backing him up and refining his good comedy instincts and probably shooting down his bad/unfunny tendencies.

He had some good stand up in the 90s, but ever since he bailed on the Chapelle show and left his entire staff hanging, he has barely been funny. Hiis come back tour sucked, Netflix special sucked, tonight sucked. It's like he is going for this provocateur angle but not actually being smart, interesting or funny like Richard Pryor and George Carlin.

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CashPrizes posted...

Chappelle shows was amazing, but that's because he had a team of amazing writers backing him up and refining his good comedy instincts and probably shooting down his bad/unfunny tendencies.

He had some good stand up in the 90s, but ever since he bailed on the Chapelle show and left his entire staff hanging, he has barely been funny. Hiis come back tour sucked, Netflix special sucked, tonight sucked. It's like he is going for this provocateur angle but not actually being smart, interesting or funny like Richard Pryor and George Carlin.

I mean every comedian out there says that he's the best comic alive but sure lets listen to you. You are the real judge when it comes to comedy.

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CashPrizes posted...

Chappelle shows was amazing, but that's because he had a team of amazing writers backing him up and refining his good comedy instincts and probably shooting down his bad/unfunny tendencies.

Yeah that team of amazing writers that consisted of Neal Brennan and Dave Chappelle


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Prestoff posted...

I would assume that because of the covid. But yeah not all of his jokes landed, but when they did they landed hard lol.

Yeah when he said about there being crappy people on both sides, the audience def wasnt feeling that one.

Which is silly cuz hes right. Both sides have jerks and corrupt politicians.

Kastrada posted...

Yeah that team of amazing writers that consisted of Neal Brennan and Dave Chappelle

Neal Brennan is an unbelievably insufferable person who probably craps on white people way more than Chappelle.

Like I like an awful lot of what Chappelle does, but the whole crapping on white people deal does get old.

It's a pretty old trope. A black comic makes fun of white people in a harsh way that would be considered massively racist if spun around. It obviously says a lot about racial attitudes. Chappelle was by no means the first or last to do it.


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DJquackquack posted...

Yeah when he said about there being crappy people on both sides, the audience def wasnt feeling that one.

Which is silly cuz hes right. Both sides have jerks and corrupt politicians.

But right now everyone is supposed to be elated that Joe Biden will be president and beyond ecstatic that we will have the first woman and woman of color as the VP.

Don't stray from the crowd or be ostracized.

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We have had 4 years of an extremely racist president and his supporters shitting on people of color where were u then

Just watched the monologue. It had some decent parts, but I'd rank it pretty low as far as Chappelle is concerned. I'm honestly just very tired of the whole "let's criticize white people for this or that....."

Like I'm well aware of Chappelle's upbringing. He wasn't a poor kid from the ghetto. Both of his parents were extremely well acco.plished academics. Chappelle grew up in a very white neighborhood. It's always weird for me to hear him talk about how horrible his experience was when neither of my parents even went to college and I was one of seven children. Economically speaking, Chappelle had a much more privileged background than me.

Like I had been performing stand up for about a year and a half before covid happened. So maybe that is why I notice this stuff more, but there are tons of black dudes who go to open mics and try to do the whole let's crap on white people deal. It is a massively common trope at this point. I mean, there are a lot of tropes in comedy you can see repeated excessively by different people at open mic nights. Like white women who very openly talk about sex like it's super progressive to talk about sex constantly and how much sex they're having.

Honestly, I just feel more sour on comedy as a whole. There doesn't appear to be a ton of originality out there.

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CADE FOSTER posted...

We have had 4 years of an extremely racist president and his supporters shitting on people of color where were u then

Yeah IDK if this is supposed to be directed at me or not, but it is an extremely odd point to make at anyone. Unless I was a close friend or someone you interacted with frequently then you can't exactly ask where I was then, because we were never around each other anyways.

I am very anti Trump. I can't tell you how many times I've been in awkward scenarios where people thought I may be a Trumper. I'm LGBT and massively anti police brutality. I hate everything about Trump and his idiot followers. Last weekend I sped past a Trump caravan giving the middle finger to all of those morons.

Like there's always this weird vibe that if you aren't 100% down with everything woke (though a lot of woke people would argue there are many problematic parts to Chappelle) then you probably condone Trumpisms to some extent.

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Don't take that dude seriously. Everything he posts is some variation of "the right is evil".

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TommyG663513 posted...

Like I'm well aware of Chappelle's upbringing. He wasn't a poor kid from the ghetto. Both of his parents were extremely well acco.plished academics. Chappelle grew up in a very white neighborhood. It's always weird for me to hear him talk about how horrible his experience was when neither of my parents even went to college and I was one of seven children. Economically speaking, Chappelle had a much more privileged background than me.

When exactly does Chappelle talk about how hard things are for him specifically? He talks about and for black people and their collective experience in America. He's almost never talking about himself specifically.

And this is a really, really odd thing to bring up. "This black man is more privileged than most black people so why is he talking about racist issues" is what it sounds like you are saying. And you say you have been doing stand up for less than two years and you are sounding like a gatekeeper of comedy, critiquing a person who has been doing this for decades and has near universal praise from his peers.

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shnangyboos posted...

Don't take that dude seriously. Everything he posts is some variation of "the right is evil".

I mean, they kind of are lol

I take more issue with people who look at Biden/Harris as all or mostly good, because they are the significantly lesser evil, but still fairly evil.

Like I'm happy Trump has been voted out, but I've always been very bothered that voting for Biden was my best chance at voting Trump out. The idea that people are praising Kamala Harris as a win for the woke crowd with her track record as a prosecutor is downright vomit enducing.

People right now are way too happy that Trump is gone, but I'm crazy depressed that he was ever there in the first place and that he was as close as he was to a second term. America may have just averted a fascist moron, but we still have crazy significant issues that need immediate attention. I don't get all of these people celebrating in the streets like your team won the Super Bowl especially with the covid risk.

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Kastrada posted...

When exactly does Chappelle talk about how hard things are for him specifically? He talks about and for black people and their collective experience in America. He's almost never talking about himself specifically.

And this is a really, really odd thing to bring up. "This black man is more privileged than most black people so why is he talking about racist issues" is what it sounds like you are saying. And you say you have been doing stand up for less than two years and you are sounding like a gatekeeper of comedy, critiquing a person who has been doing this for decades and has near universal praise from his peers.

You massively misinterpreted what I was saying. Just lol man. Learn basic reading comprehension then get back to me.

I didn't gatekeep a damn thing. I pointed out the existence of tropes and how common they are.

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"Dave Chappelle grew up around white people and was well to do! Why is that black man complaining????"

Endgame posted...

Well, he's right. I live in Florida and most maskless idiots are indeed white.

i work in oakland and the only people at the job wearing masks are white people. the black guys refuse to work with it on

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Andrew clearly lying

TommyG663513 posted...

You massively misinterpreted what I was saying. Just lol man. Learn basic reading comprehension then get back to me.

I didn't gatekeep a damn thing. I pointed out the existence of tropes and how common they are.

Fine. I'll reword it. You've been in stand up comedy less than two years and you already criticizing your peers and one of the most decorated comedians in history.

And to the bigger point, you bring up his background and how he had a privileged upbringing. Yet I ask you again. When does he specifically talk about his life and struggles with race? His act has always been black people at the forefront. He's almost never front and center of his jokes. It's about the collective black experience.

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_TrustOurAces_ posted...

"Dave Chappelle grew up around white people and was well to do! Why is that black man complaining????"

I didn't say anything close to that, but try harder. I'm sorry you weren't able to understand what I said so you needed to devise a straw man.

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CADE FOSTER posted...

Andrew clearly lying

and you clearly haven't done manual labor. i can count on one hand the number of people on my shift that wear a mask, and even less wear it over their nose.

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Kastrada posted...

Fine. I'll reword it. You've been in stand up comedy less than two years and you already criticizing your peers and one of the most decorated comedians in history.

And to the bigger point, you bring up his background and how he had a privileged upbringing. Yet I ask you again. When does he specifically talk about his life and struggles with race? His act has always been black people at the forefront. He's almost never front and center of his jokes. It's about the collective black experience.

I'm if you go to open mics enough then you will see people repeat the same tropes. This is a reality. If you see the same act enough then it comes off more repetitive and less pleasurable to watch. That is just how it works and I am by no means the only comic to notice this. There are tons of different tropes in comedy. People should be aware of them and trying to mess with audience expectations. Often enough they just go the predictable route though.

I bring up his privileged upbringing, because I find it odd at how indignant he is about the black experience when being black clearly isn't the whole deal. Being poor and living in a crappy neighborhood are the bigger factors. Then there is how being poor in a crappy neighborhood interacts with also being black.

And Chappelle does talk about how hard he has it. He still talks about how he walked away from Chappelle's show and how hard of a deal that was. He just ignores the part that walking away from a $50 million contract is a massively privileged thing to be able to do.

Chappelle is always quick to bring up racial experiences he has had, but always seems to downplay all of the privileges he has.

I'm saying that as a white person in a large family without a ton of money it can come off a little off putting to hear a black guy who grew up economically privileged tell me a bunch of stuff I must think as a white person.

I very much like Chappelle and would easily label him as the best of this generation, but I don't have to like every single thing about him. There are parts of him that I will criticize. The guy isn't perfect. Dont put him up on a pedestal.

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TommyG663513 posted...

I didn't say anything close to that, but try harder. I'm sorry you weren't able to understand what I said so you needed to devise a straw man.

You're downplaying the amount of racism and struggles he probably went through as a young black kid/man in the white part of DC shortly after the end of Jim Crow. Just stop.

_TrustOurAces_ posted...

You're downplaying the amount of racism and struggles he probably went through as a young black kid/man in the white part of DC shortly after the end of Jim Crow. Just stop.

No I'm not downplaying it, I'm pointing out the economic advantages he had that I never ever had. Chappelle does sometimes talk about this, but he mostly ignores it.

What Chappelle went through is way better than most black people and better than quite a few white people went through.

My main argument here is that people tend to ignore economic advantages by conflating them with racial advantages when they are separate things, but with a lot of overlap.

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And your point about that being true is motivated by what purpose exactly? He's not allowed to tell white jokes because he wasn't poor? That he somehow didn't suffer the same racism a poor black person would? I'm not understanding your endgame here.

The Popo posted...

Dont let hunger dictate your life.

this is legitimately funny.
that masks thing however is not something i agree with. (some of us are taking it seriously, others however are not). i'm scared out of my mind to catch covid. some on CE have breathing problems as a result i could end up dead.

and yes if it does get worse. i'm avoiding the store altogether and doing the online pickup if i have to.
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_TrustOurAces_ posted...

And your point about that being true is motivated by what purpose exactly? He's not allowed to tell white jokes because he wasn't poor? That he somehow didn't suffer the same racism a poor black person would? I'm not understanding your endgame here.

He clearly didn't suffer the same racism a poor black person would. That is incredibly clear. Living in the ghetto is a major disadvantage and Chappelle didn't have that disadvantage. Chappelle went to good schools and I would think with both of his parents being incredibly serious academics very likely pushed him to study.

Economics can protect you from many aspects of racism. Certainly not all of them, but don't act like Chappelle and a poor black kid living in the ghetto had an experience that was all that close.
I'm not saying he isn't allowed to tell white jokes. I've been a big fan of Chappelle since his show aired. I like a ton of his white people jokes. I just think it gets old, because he has been doing it for so long. Making jokes about white people as a black person is a super old comedy trope. I'm in general, sick of seeing comedy tropes done to death. It just isn't that funny for the millionth time and then there is the reality that Chappelle is way more privileged than I could ever dream to be.

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As a woman of color I need to explain something to you. No matter how "privileged" some of us are, we are still going to be looked down by a large portion of society. We are going to be distrusted. We are still going to be stereotyped. We are still going to viewed as "less than".

Yes he grew up in a better position than a poor black kid in a downtrodden ghetto. And yes you had a hard life coming up.

But here's the thing. Your life doesn't negative his experiences. Just as his experiences don't negate yours. The difference is, he isn't saying anything about you.

If anything, most of Chappelle's comedy about poor white people specifically is how most of them support people and groups that actively hurt them. It's teasing but also a "Wake the fuck up and realize you are hurting yourselves".


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Did he do a sketch that was the same as his 2016 one about people not being able to believe that Trump won? If he did that and reversed it to be about Republicans and Biden that wouldve been really funny
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They didnt kick Blll Burr over his White Women comment.

Kastrada posted...

As a woman of color I need to explain something to you. No matter how "privileged" some of us are, we are still going to be looked down by a large portion of society. We are going to be distrusted. We are still going to be stereotyped. We are still going to viewed as "less than".

Yes he grew up in a better position than a poor black kid in a downtrodden ghetto. And yes you had a hard life coming up.

But here's the thing. Your life doesn't negative his experiences. Just as his experiences don't negate yours. The difference is, he isn't saying anything about you.

If anything, most of Chappelle's comedy about poor white people specifically is how most of them support people and groups that actively hurt them. It's teasing but also a "Wake the fuck up and realize you are hurting yourselves".

As a bisexual person who grew up poor I need to condescendingly talk down to you and how you could never ever understand my experience.

Like seriously, all I'm saying is maybe the "haha white people" jokes that black comics have been doing for 40 years plus are getting a little old.

Maybe celebrities like Chappelle are way behind the experience of the average black man. Maybe Chappelle has achieved a level of privilege we could only dream of.

Again, all I'm saying is that maybe he lean a lot less heavily on the "haha white people" jokes. I'm sorry that me pointing this out gets you so offended.

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TommyG663513 posted...

As a bisexual person who grew up poor I need to condescendingly talk down to you and how you could never ever understand my experience.

Like seriously, all I'm saying is maybe the "haha white people" jokes that black comics have been doing for 40 years plus are getting a little old.

Maybe celebrities like Chappelle are way behind the experience of the average black man. Maybe Chappelle has achieved a level of privilege we could only dream of.

Again, all I'm saying is that maybe he lean a lot less heavily on the "haha white people" jokes. I'm sorry that me pointing this out gets you so offended.

Youre the only person in the topic thats offended right now
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The monologue was good. But the bit after that with Chappelle as the All State guy had me rolling.

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YookaLaylee posted...

Youre the only person in the topic thats offended right now

Um no. I pointed out that I'm annoyed at "haha white people" humor and everyone got really bothered by that.

Keep in mind, I'm still very much a person who would label Chappelle as the best comic of this generation. I've been consuming his comedy for a couple of decades. I just think his "lol white people" humor can be a little off putting especially considering he grew up economically pretty well off.

Funny enough, Chappelle has also done a bit about white trash and how he didn't understand the concept until he got high up in show biz.

People have this weird caricature of white people. Like they're all prep school kids with trust funds or something. There's a pretty wide net of economic conditions facing white people.

My girlfriend is from a very rural area which has exposed me to the living conditions of rural white people that I never considered. I never realized how ghetto a lot of these small rural towns can be. Just a bunch of methed out people living in trailers with wild dogs everywhere. Not a whole lot of economic opportunity in those areas.

If there wasn't such significant overlap between these rural types and Trumpers people might have some sympathy for these methed out rural towns.


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People who aren't offended don't write six paragraph explanations as to why they aren't offended.

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TommyG663513 posted...

YookaLaylee posted...

Youre the only person in the topic thats offended right now

Um no. I pointed out that I'm annoyed at "haha white people" humor and everyone got really bothered by that.

Keep in mind, I'm still very much a person who would label Chappelle as the best comic of this generation. I've been consuming his comedy for a couple of decades. I just think his "lol white people" humor can be a little off putting especially considering he grew up economically pretty well off.

Funny enough, Chappelle has also done a bit about white trash and how he didn't understand the concept until he got high up in show biz.

People have this weird caricature of white people. Like they're all prep school kids with trust funds or something. There's a pretty wide net of economic conditions facing white people.

My girlfriend is from a very rural area which has exposed me to the living conditions of rural white people that I never considered. I never realized how ghetto a lot of these small rural towns can be. Just a bunch of methed out people living in trailers with wild dogs everywhere. Not a whole lot of economic opportunity in those areas.

If there wasn't such significant overlap between these rural types and Trumpers people might have some sympathy for these methed out rural towns.

Cry more.
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TommyG663513 posted...

He clearly didn't suffer the same racism a poor black person would. That is incredibly clear. Living in the ghetto is a major disadvantage and Chappelle didn't have that disadvantage. Chappelle went to good schools and I would think with both of his parents being incredibly serious academics very likely pushed him to study.

This is a fucking moronic argument. Chappelle doesn't live in a bubble

I grew up in affluent parts of metro Atlanta, got full rides for both undergrad and grad school, and a single homeowner in the metro DC area. There have been zero major struggles in my life. Can even buy random bullshit like a $1k VR headset.

However I have this weird thing called....uh family and ermmm...what was it....friends? Where some of both groups have dealt with hardships that Chappelle mentions in his routine. Growing up in Atlanta didn't prevent me from spending an assload of time with both sides of my family in RandomTownsWithoutAPostOffice, MS (my mom literally had to physical deliver a present I bought for my grandma from Amazon) and Jackson, MS. Just because I could escape back to preppy Alpharetta doesnt mean I magically forgot living with family members who live off food stamps and deal with bullshit daily in family friendly Jackson, MS. It even got to the point where there was a major fight in my family where the poor part of family was jealous about how my mom and dad were successful and there was a physical, not verbal, brawl. But my parents can't take care of all of them so there's jack that can be done.

And I'm sure my experience is not that unique, so tell me more about Chappelle's childhood that left him stuck in a bubble shacked up in DC to leave him oblivious about struggling.

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Bio1590 posted...

His monologue was about a bunch of different things but there was one part where he said Trump getting covid was like Freddie Mercury getting aids and you didn't have to question how or why he got it >_> he looked at someone behind him for a bit after that before continuing.

And this was right after he says Women make too much money and then complaining I tHoUgHt We WeRe DoInG a CoMeDy ShOw when people rightfully jeered.

SNL needs to stop trying to rehabilitate controversial comedians or whatever this latest kick is.

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Chapelle is literally top 2 or 3 alive. SNL is not rehabilitating one of the best comics walking the planet. The show should be honoured he's even on the show.

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