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FlameTurtle 11/12/20 12:44:20 PM #1:	https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/life/norway-bans-hate-speech-against-trans-and-bisexual-people/ The country already has hate speech protections for lesbian and gay people. Norway has expanded its penal code that protected lesbian and gay people from hate speech to now include members of the trans and bisexual community. Norways parliament backed the amendments to the 1981 legislation yesterday (10 November) without needing a vote, after it had been backed by parliamentarians in its first reading last week. The amendments now protect gender, gender identity or expression from hate speech and changed the phrase homosexual orientation to sexual orientation in order to mean that people within the bi+ community were protected. The existing penal code punished people with up to a year in jail for private remarks, and up to three years for public remarks. The bill was welcomed by LGBTQ+ advocates, with Birna Rorslett, the vice-president of the Association of Transgender People in Norway, saying: Im very relieved actually, because (the lack of legal protection) has been an eyesore for trans people for many, many years. In emails to the Thomson Reuters Foundation ahead of the legislation, Monica Mland, the Minister for Justice and Public Security, said that trans people were an exposed group when it comes to discrimination, harassment and violence. She added: It is imperative that the protection against discrimination offered by the criminal legislation is adapted to the practical situations that arise. The penal code has also been amended so that sentences for people charged with violent crimes will be harsher if its deemed that the attack had been motivated by a persons sexual orientation or gender identity. However, some hit out at the law, claiming it would criminalise free speech for those opposed to LGBTQ+ rights. Anine Kierulf, an assistant professor of law at the University of Oslo claimed: There are a lot of very hateful things you can say about the protected groups. Hck yeah --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:947079606] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/life/norway-bans-hate-speech-against-trans-and-bisexual-people/ <quote> The country already has hate speech protections for lesbian and gay people. Norway has expanded its penal code that protected lesbian and gay people from hate speech to now include members of the trans and bisexual community. Norways parliament backed the amendments to the 1981 legislation yesterday (10 November) without needing a vote, after it had been backed by parliamentarians in its first reading last week. The amendments now protect gender, gender identity or expression from hate speech and changed the phrase homosexual orientation to sexual orientation in order to mean that people within the bi+ community were protected. The existing penal code punished people with up to a year in jail for private remarks, and up to three years for public remarks. The bill was welcomed by LGBTQ+ advocates, with Birna Rorslett, the vice-president of the Association of Transgender People in Norway, saying: Im very relieved actually, because (the lack of legal protection) has been an eyesore for trans people for many, many years. In emails to the Thomson Reuters Foundation ahead of the legislation, Monica Mland, the Minister for Justice and Public Security, said that trans people were an exposed group when it comes to discrimination, harassment and violence. She added: It is imperative that the protection against discrimination offered by the criminal legislation is adapted to the practical situations that arise. The penal code has also been amended so that sentences for people charged with violent crimes will be harsher if its deemed that the attack had been motivated by a persons sexual orientation or gender identity. However, some hit out at the law, claiming it would criminalise free speech for those opposed to LGBTQ+ rights. Anine Kierulf, an assistant professor of law at the University of Oslo claimed: There are a lot of very hateful things you can say about the protected groups.</quote> Hck yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 11/12/20 12:44:57 PM #2:	Good --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:947079625] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 11/12/20 12:45:29 PM #3:	Nice. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:947079651] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 11/12/20 12:45:30 PM #4:	Garioshi posted... Good --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:947079652] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite> <quote>Good</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 11/12/20 12:47:35 PM #5:	Thats unfortunate. Free speech is pretty important. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:947079744] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Thats unfortunate. Free speech is pretty important. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 12:49:08 PM #6:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRy-hWCkErQ <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947079802] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRy-hWCkErQ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/12/20 12:56:05 PM #7:	At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947080067] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 12:59:11 PM #8:	One_Day_Remains posted... At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably? --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080181] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted... </cite> <quote>At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope</quote>Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 11/12/20 1:00:55 PM #10:	gunplagirl posted... Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably? To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:947080242] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably?</quote> To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 11/12/20 1:01:49 PM #11:	gunplagirl posted... Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably? You see, this amendment to a law adopted in 1981 is actually going to bring about the end times --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:947080274] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Slippery slope to what, actually treating trans people equitably?</quote>You see, this amendment to a law adopted in 1981 is actually going to bring about the end times </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 11/12/20 1:02:37 PM #12:	free sppeeech!! wtf!!! --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:947080312] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>free sppeeech!! wtf!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 11/12/20 1:02:52 PM #13:	One_Day_Remains posted... At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope Oh no, I can't shitpost on internet and IRL about LGBTQ people anymore!!!" --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:947080318] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted... </cite> <quote>At a glimpse this sounds like a nice thing but I'm curious if it would lead to a slippery slope</quote> Oh no, I can't shitpost on internet and IRL about LGBTQ people anymore!!!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 11/12/20 1:02:54 PM #14:	Eh not sure I agree with limiting speech --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:947080320] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Eh not sure I agree with limiting speech </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 1:02:56 PM #15:	gunplagirl posted... Slippery slope to what uh... getting loopy on ambien and making fun of someone's silly haircut, then getting accused of some sort of -ism and losing your tv show and being woke-exiled for at least a couple years. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947080322] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Slippery slope to what</quote>uh... getting loopy on ambien and making fun of someone's silly haircut, then getting accused of some sort of -ism and losing your tv show and being woke-exiled for at least a couple years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:02:59 PM #16:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC Trans women aren't men, so by saying what you have you're making the implication that you believe trans women are men. Incidentally, misgendering trans people and saying they're wrong about their gender is transphobic. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080325] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC</quote>Trans women aren't men, so by saying what you have you're making the implication that you believe trans women are men. Incidentally, misgendering trans people and saying they're wrong about their gender is transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/12/20 1:03:03 PM #17:	Laws like this usually don't get used because you think transwomen shouldn't be competing against non-trans women But yall knew that <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947080330] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Laws like this usually don't get used because you think transwomen shouldn't be competing against non-trans women But yall knew that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 11/12/20 1:04:20 PM #18:	gunplagirl posted... Trans women aren't men, so by saying what you have you're making the implication that you believe trans women are men. Incidentally, misgendering trans people and saying they're wrong about their gender is transphobic. Lol exactly, thanks for proving my point --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:947080372] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Trans women aren't men, so by saying what you have you're making the implication that you believe trans women are men. Incidentally, misgendering trans people and saying they're wrong about their gender is transphobic.</quote> Lol exactly, thanks for proving my point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:05:12 PM #19:	FlameTurtle posted... You see, this amendment to a law adopted in 1981 is actually going to bring about the end times The Pope was right, trans people are nuclear weapons! (He said something to that effect a few years ago, too lazy to dig up the actual quote though) Questionmarktarius posted... uh... getting loopy on ambien and making fun of someone's silly haircut, then getting accused of some sort of -ism and losing your tv show and being woke-exiled for at least a couple years. Roseann got what she had coming after years of bigotry and other fanatic nonsense. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080400] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>You see, this amendment to a law adopted in 1981 is actually going to bring about the end times</quote>The Pope was right, trans people are nuclear weapons! (He said something to that effect a few years ago, too lazy to dig up the actual quote though) Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>uh... getting loopy on ambien and making fun of someone's silly haircut, then getting accused of some sort of -ism and losing your tv show and being woke-exiled for at least a couple years.</quote>Roseann got what she had coming after years of bigotry and other fanatic nonsense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:05:49 PM #20:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Lol exactly, thanks for proving my point Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080424] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>Lol exactly, thanks for proving my point</quote>Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 11/12/20 1:07:21 PM #21:	gunplagirl posted... Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now. Hes been outspokenly transphobic for years --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:947080481] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now.</quote>Hes been outspokenly transphobic for years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/12/20 1:07:36 PM #22:	KILBOTz posted... Thats unfortunate. Free speech is pretty important. Free Speech doesn't mean you are allowed to say horrible shit to people. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:947080492] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>KILBOTz posted... </cite> <quote>Thats unfortunate. Free speech is pretty important.</quote> Free Speech doesn't mean you are allowed to say horrible shit to people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/12/20 1:08:44 PM #23:	Jagr_68 posted... Oh no, I can't shitpost on internet and IRL about LGBTQ people anymore!!!" Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947080533] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted...</cite> <quote> Oh no, I can't shitpost on internet and IRL about LGBTQ people anymore!!!" </quote> Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 11/12/20 1:09:13 PM #24:	One_Day_Remains posted... Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech Sure buddy --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:947080560] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted... </cite> <quote>Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech</quote>Sure buddy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/12/20 1:10:09 PM #25:	One_Day_Remains posted... Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech Dude I know. You're the hero we need We gave them gays the right not to beaten in the streets and suddenly we got gay frogs!!!! /s <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947080594] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted...</cite> <quote> Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech</quote> Dude I know. You're the hero we need We gave them gays the right not to beaten in the streets and suddenly we got gay frogs!!!! /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:11:32 PM #27:	One_Day_Remains posted... Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech If you don't state what the end result of the slippery slope would be, then people are going to make the assumption. And 99/100 times it's used regarding trans people, it's done so in a transphobic way. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080669] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted... </cite> <quote>Lol. You obviously have no idea what "slippery slope" means, because if you did, you'd know I'm not defending nor talking about hate speech</quote>If you don't state what the end result of the slippery slope would be, then people are going to make the assumption. And 99/100 times it's used regarding trans people, it's done so in a transphobic way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 11/12/20 1:11:38 PM #28:	LightHawKnight posted... Free Speech doesn't mean you are allowed to say horrible shit to people. It does though. And it means the state can't punish you for saying horrible shit. <cite>Esrac posted [p:947080673] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>Free Speech doesn't mean you are allowed to say horrible shit to people.</quote> It does though. And it means the state can't punish you for saying horrible shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 11/12/20 1:12:06 PM #29:	gunplagirl posted... Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now. That people can twist anything and be offended by it --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:947080694] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Your point being that you think trans women are men? Because that's what you've confirmed just now.</quote> That people can twist anything and be offended by it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:13:12 PM #30:	Crash posted... Yes it literally does. Nah. In the US it means that most things you say can't get the government to lock you up. I'm not aware that Norway is or ever has been part of the US, but I guess I could check. Google says it's not. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080740] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Crash posted... </cite> <quote>Yes it literally does.</quote>Nah. In the US it means that most things you say can't get the government to lock you up. I'm not aware that Norway is or ever has been part of the US, but I guess I could check. Google says it's not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolcono 11/12/20 1:13:34 PM #31:	But straight cis gendered people aren't protected? --- psn- trucano <cite>coolcono posted [p:947080757] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>But straight cis gendered people aren't protected? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/12/20 1:13:53 PM #32:	nothanks1 posted... Dude I know. You're the hero we need We gave them gays the right not to beaten in the streets and suddenly we got gay frogs!!!! /s You should ask yourself this: why would I say "this seems like a nice thing" if I was against it. I said I was curious, because I don't live in Norway and know how things work over there. And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and I'm fine with being wrong. --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947080764] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>nothanks1 posted...</cite> <quote> Dude I know. You're the hero we need We gave them gays the right not to beaten in the streets and suddenly we got gay frogs!!!! /s</quote> You should ask yourself this: why would I say "this seems like a nice thing" if I was against it. I said I was curious, because I don't live in Norway and know how things work over there. And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and I'm fine with being wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 11/12/20 1:14:13 PM #33:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC BuT tEh EquAlitY is MorE impORtant thAn The sAFety of a CiS pERsoN --- Night will come and I will follow For my victims, no tomorrow <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947080775] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote> To putting people in jail for saying a man shouldn't be competing in womens UFC </quote> BuT tEh EquAlitY is MorE impORtant thAn The sAFety of a CiS pERsoN</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/12/20 1:14:27 PM #34:	One_Day_Remains posted... You should ask yourself this: why would I say "this seems like a nice thing" if I was against it. I said I was curious, because I don't live in Norway and know how things work over there. And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and I'm fine with being wrong. Then you're fine <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947080785] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted...</cite> <quote> You should ask yourself this: why would I say "this seems like a nice thing" if I was against it. I said I was curious, because I don't live in Norway and know how things work over there. And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and I'm fine with being wrong.</quote> Then you're fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:14:45 PM #35:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... That people can twist anything and be offended by it It was tacitly implied in your original post and considering Phynaster also said you've done this for years, well. Maybe you'll grow up one day. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080796] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>That people can twist anything and be offended by it</quote>It was tacitly implied in your original post and considering Phynaster also said you've done this for years, well. Maybe you'll grow up one day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 1:15:17 PM #36:	gunplagirl posted... Nah. In the US it means that most things you say can't get the government to lock you up. I'm not aware that Norway is or ever has been part of the US, but I guess I could check. Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947080812] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Nah. In the US it means that most things you say can't get the government to lock you up. I'm not aware that Norway is or ever has been part of the US, but I guess I could check.</quote>Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 11/12/20 1:16:25 PM #37:	Questionmarktarius posted... Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those. Nope --- Night will come and I will follow For my victims, no tomorrow <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947080860] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those. </quote> Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/12/20 1:16:43 PM #38:	Esrac posted... It does though. And it means the state can't punish you for saying horrible shit. So you think hate speech of any kind is perfectly legal? Go ahead and go outside and try it. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:947080870] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>It does though. And it means the state can't punish you for saying horrible shit.</quote> So you think hate speech of any kind is perfectly legal? Go ahead and go outside and try it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:16:51 PM #39:	coolcono posted... But straight cis gendered people aren't protected? Sexual orientation would also include heterosexuals. And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080875] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>coolcono posted... </cite> <quote>But straight cis gendered people aren't protected?</quote>Sexual orientation would also include heterosexuals. And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 1:17:40 PM #40:	gunplagirl posted... And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947080902] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis.</quote>reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 11/12/20 1:18:03 PM #41:	gunplagirl posted... Sexual orientation would also include heterosexuals. And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. "die cis scum" was huge a few years ago. --- Night will come and I will follow For my victims, no tomorrow <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947080921] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Sexual orientation would also include heterosexuals. And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. </quote> "die cis scum" was huge a few years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 11/12/20 1:18:11 PM #42:	Questionmarktarius posted... reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often. That's a slur for straight people tho <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:947080925] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often. </quote> That's a slur for straight people tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/12/20 1:18:39 PM #43:	gunplagirl posted... If you don't state what the end result of the slippery slope would be, then people are going to make the assumption. And 99/100 times it's used regarding trans people, it's done so in a transphobic way. Fair enough. I'm kind of applying the same logic that's used to defend the first amendment here in the US --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947080945] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> If you don't state what the end result of the slippery slope would be, then people are going to make the assumption. And 99/100 times it's used regarding trans people, it's done so in a transphobic way. </quote> Fair enough. I'm kind of applying the same logic that's used to defend the first amendment here in the US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:18:53 PM #44:	Lord_Wombat posted... BuT tEh EquAlitY is MorE impORtant thAn The sAFety of a CiS pERsoN You're literally making up straw man arguments to mock, and still losing. How sad. Questionmarktarius posted... Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those. Yep, but bigots think that their feelings matter more than the safety of minorities. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947080957] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Lord_Wombat posted... </cite> <quote>BuT tEh EquAlitY is MorE impORtant thAn The sAFety of a CiS pERsoN</quote>You're literally making up straw man arguments to mock, and still losing. How sad. Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Slander. libel, and assault are not free speech, and spouting off -phobic or -ist nonsense is almost always at least one of those.</quote>Yep, but bigots think that their feelings matter more than the safety of minorities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 11/12/20 1:19:57 PM #45:	LightHawKnight posted... So you think hate speech of any kind is perfectly legal? Go ahead and go outside and try it. Do you live in Europe? In America you absolutely can say bad shit to people and not get in legal trouble. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:947080998] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>So you think hate speech of any kind is perfectly legal? Go ahead and go outside and try it.</quote>Do you live in Europe? In America you absolutely can say bad shit to people and not get in legal trouble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 11/12/20 1:20:33 PM #46:	gunplagirl posted... And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis. pfff, maybe you haven't... --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:947081024] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>And nobody's actually discriminated against cisgender people with the motivation being that the victim is cis.</quote>pfff, maybe you haven't... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phynaster 11/12/20 1:20:52 PM #47:	Lord_Wombat posted... "die cis scum" was huge a few years ago. Yes, this stupid internet meme was clear discrimination against cis people and is definitely the same as trans people getting murdered and shit. Shut the fuck up. --- Rebel <cite>Phynaster posted [p:947081032] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Lord_Wombat posted... </cite> <quote>"die cis scum" was huge a few years ago.</quote>Yes, this stupid internet meme was clear discrimination against cis people and is definitely the same as trans people getting murdered and shit. Shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:23:26 PM #48:	Questionmarktarius posted... reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often. For straight people, and primarily it's used by radical feminists against women who have had children so there's the angle of misogyny to consider. Lord_Wombat posted... "die cis scum" was huge a few years ago. And you clearly don't understand what the phrase was used for if you're thinking it was somehow discrimination. It was very much in line with "ok Boomer" or other dismissive statements against people who were not worth engaging with any longer, albeit more intense. There was no systemic angle to validate calling it discrimination, at least not in any concerning manner. That said, I love me some down with cis bus jokes, because for whatever reason TERFs rolled with sharing the same crappy pasta story that got more ridiculously embellished every time and we rolled with it because it was so obviously fake from the start. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947081125] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>reminder that "breeder" is used as an epithet quite often.</quote>For straight people, and primarily it's used by radical feminists against women who have had children so there's the angle of misogyny to consider. Lord_Wombat posted... </cite> <quote>"die cis scum" was huge a few years ago.</quote>And you clearly don't understand what the phrase was used for if you're thinking it was somehow discrimination. It was very much in line with "ok Boomer" or other dismissive statements against people who were not worth engaging with any longer, albeit more intense. There was no systemic angle to validate calling it discrimination, at least not in any concerning manner. That said, I love me some down with cis bus jokes, because for whatever reason TERFs rolled with sharing the same crappy pasta story that got more ridiculously embellished every time and we rolled with it because it was so obviously fake from the start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/12/20 1:24:31 PM #49:	FlameTurtle posted... pfff, maybe you haven't... --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:947081173] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>FlameTurtle posted... </cite> <quote>pfff, maybe you haven't...</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/12/20 1:25:04 PM #50:	gunplagirl posted... It was very much in line with "ok Boomer" or other dismissive statements against people who were not worth engaging with any longer, albeit more intense. dismissal of an entire group on the basis of a shared trait isn't exactly very nice. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947081185] in Norway ban... [t:79105006]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>It was very much in line with "ok Boomer" or other dismissive statements against people who were not worth engaging with any longer, albeit more intense.</quote>dismissal of an entire group on the basis of a shared trait isn't exactly very nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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