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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 8:11:27 AM
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Lets goooo!

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Funkydog
11/15/20 8:57:08 AM
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I hope Calli and Kiara will be allowed to play more Yakuza soon. Enjoyed both their streams of it

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Ushiromiya
11/15/20 11:14:39 AM
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LordFarquad1312
11/15/20 11:25:15 AM
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tag

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Hop103
11/15/20 12:43:39 PM
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Looks like the clippers finally got to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odzH8ie0doo
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yunalenne10
11/15/20 12:50:07 PM
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Tagging!

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PokemonYoutube
11/15/20 1:59:08 PM
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https://youtu.be/qQHnzYSpEmM

Educational shark.
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legendarylemur
11/15/20 5:40:15 PM
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I did it. I sniped the 500 with a Suisei pic. Simp levels maximized

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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 5:56:35 PM
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Peko reacts to the completed subaru mech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHMCPnbJUfQ

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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 6:26:34 PM
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Some cosplay
https://twitter.com/krt294/status/1327925657314095105

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MorganTJ
11/15/20 6:44:00 PM
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Subagelion just reminds me of Omnimon now.
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LordFarquad1312
11/15/20 7:32:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlheXtia5I&ab_channel=Gakibuki

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MarbyIsBack
11/15/20 7:33:54 PM
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My favorite VTuber is the Engineer from Team Fortress 2.

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Stagmar
11/15/20 7:37:16 PM
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In response to the vid about Amelias mom in the last thread, Im beginning to think its a requirement to have something fucked up happen in your past to be part of Hololive. After all we have Subarus heart defect, being hit by a car, and house burning down; Kanatas progressing deafness; Watames father wanting to send her to an orphanage (cant remember what happened to her mother, but she was raised by her grandmother); and now Amelias mom being kidnapped and I saw some mention of something about some phony private investigators. Im probably forgetting a bunch of other examples.

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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 7:44:53 PM
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Lest we forget the time matsuri and her mom had a standoff with kitchen knives





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uMokSFTBI


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LordFarquad1312
11/15/20 10:04:01 PM
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Kiara and Ame are having a rematch next week...

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Ushiromiya
11/15/20 10:05:30 PM
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Ame is gonna win, it's just a question of how many turns will it take her to figure out the checkmate....


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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 10:38:54 PM
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pogo_rabid
11/15/20 10:39:01 PM
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legendarylemur
11/15/20 11:08:52 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Interesting timeline of Ai Kizuna
https://mobile.twitter.com/kizunaaiss/status/1327967483932725251

lmao! Didnt know that could happen
Yeah but sadly this timeline of Kizuna Ai is what sorta led to her downfall, or rather a complete stop in momentum. She took a massive hit in viewership once they kept bringing people outside the original to play various aspects of her, and companies like Nijisanji and independent vtubers were taking her place. I think she's finally finding a footing again after splitting from Up8, but yeah she's not quite as dominant as she used to be

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Eab1990
11/16/20 1:16:56 AM
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Ushiromiya
11/16/20 1:53:55 AM
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Up way too late going down a rabbit hole that I shouldn't be.

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pogo_rabid
11/16/20 2:48:28 AM
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https://twitter.com/maemae_yuyu/status/1327924273877381120?s=09

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LordFarquad1312
11/16/20 2:50:08 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
https://twitter.com/maemae_yuyu/status/1327924273877381120?s=09
oof.wav

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 4:42:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8OYFX9ru7w&hd=1

Is it even physically possible to be this cute?

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Stagmar
11/16/20 2:48:23 PM
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Today Risu talks about nut shrinkage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_XtdPdXg4

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 3:29:01 PM
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So if you were sad about the CN departure at all, I'd definitely think twice...

https://i.ibb.co/Zz8wvst/hhhhhhhh.png?fbclid=IwAR2Iy6-kP189n9vup99udmun60PPckiZH7_yYg5nsqPwTCY7RlqA_3m5byY

Excuse the weird link but it seems safe and is just a single long ass image of proofs of Artia's sub riling up ccp shills to support the One China policy and a few other girls showing support of the China antis' spam plans in subtle ways.

Artia has long been posting cryptic comments, and I think various twitter comments and a few reddit comments will shed some light into a shift in perspective for their departure. Unknown if it played a part in the HoloCN being purged, but according to Yagoo's personal post, seemed like the choice was entirely based on profitability and the CN branch being... not at all profitable despite the amount of time they were live.

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pogo_rabid
11/16/20 3:38:51 PM
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That image has been floating around for ages and is probably out of date.

I'd suggest we don't draw out this kind of drama tbqh, it doesn't help anyone.

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Stagmar
11/16/20 4:02:22 PM
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One thing to add. Yagoo's note post says that the overseas business is not yet profitable, not talking about CN specifically at that point (though if the whole thing isn't profitable, that does imply that CN isn't as well. Just clarifying, not disputing). This includes CN, ID, and EN. CN would have definitely been the most profitable of those at the moment due to the sponsorship deals, merch sales, etc. To me that means that the choice wasn't entirely based on profitability since we know ID is getting a second generation and they are interested in expanding Holostars more. It's probably more of a "we can't see any chance of growth given the continuing situation" thing.

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ModLogic
11/16/20 4:08:02 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
So if you were sad about the CN departure at all, I'd definitely think twice...

https://i.ibb.co/Zz8wvst/hhhhhhhh.png?fbclid=IwAR2Iy6-kP189n9vup99udmun60PPckiZH7_yYg5nsqPwTCY7RlqA_3m5byY

Excuse the weird link but it seems safe and is just a single long ass image of proofs of Artia's sub riling up ccp shills to support the One China policy and a few other girls showing support of the China antis' spam plans in subtle ways.

Artia has long been posting cryptic comments, and I think various twitter comments and a few reddit comments will shed some light into a shift in perspective for their departure. Unknown if it played a part in the HoloCN being purged, but according to Yagoo's personal post, seemed like the choice was entirely based on profitability and the CN branch being... not at all profitable despite the amount of time they were live.
found the anti

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 4:22:26 PM
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Stagmar posted...
One thing to add. Yagoo's note post says that the overseas business is not yet profitable, not talking about CN specifically at that point (though if the whole thing isn't profitable, that does imply that CN isn't as well. Just clarifying, not disputing). This includes CN, ID, and EN. CN would have definitely been the most profitable of those at the moment due to the sponsorship deals, merch sales, etc. To me that means that the choice wasn't entirely based on profitability since we know ID is getting a second generation and they are interested in expanding Holostars more (which some of the guys have admitted doesn't bring in much money). It's probably more of a "we can't see any chance of growth given the continuing situation" thing.
Yeah I know it includes ID and EN. But EN is only not profitable in terms of covering for the fixed costs for entry because they've only been actively for a bit over a month. Cover also haven't really pushed any merch for them yet. ID has also sorta been its own floating entity and has no merch either. Kinda sounds like another case of Cover biting off more than they can chew.

Speaking of I don't recall any real CN merch or sponsorship push either, unless they were China-centric and I just don't know about them. Bilibili money has always been surprisingly sparse in hindsight, and the JP girls were more popular than the CN girls anyways even in Bilibili. Not a big surprise they weren't profitable, and Coco alone was far more profitable for Cover, which we already knew

pogo_rabid posted...
That image has been floating around for ages and is probably out of date.

I'd suggest we don't draw out this kind of drama tbqh, it doesn't help anyone.
I'm bringing it up cuz their graduation is coming up soon. I don't think it's right to support people who've contributed to the hate. I think this needs to be dragged out so ppl don't falsely feel bad

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pogo_rabid
11/16/20 4:24:56 PM
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Please spoiler mark the drama stuff then. Not all of us want to see that.

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 4:28:02 PM
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Really? You'd rather let ppl continue to wonder why Coco has to make her chat members only and why she can't collab with like Aqua or Suisei anymore? That's kinda selfish of you

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kirbymuncher
11/16/20 4:28:31 PM
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Stagmar posted...
CN would have definitely been the most profitable of those at the moment due to the sponsorship deals, merch sales, etc.
I'm kinda of the impression that most of this stuff (even within china) would have been from the JP streamers

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Funkydog
11/16/20 4:29:21 PM
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EN will definitely be profitable given they've brought in several hundred thousand in only a month or two and that's without merch or anything else. And with Kiara simping to get Pekora merch they'll get even more of it back!

And on that note, Kiara is doing her first talk show with Marine this week, which will definitely be exciting (with a BIG secret of something) as well. Sadly the talk show isn't offline (meeting in person) as originally planned due to time constraints for them both, but still finally going ahead.

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 4:32:48 PM
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Funkydog posted...
EN will definitely be profitable given they've brought in several hundred thousand in only a month or two and that's without merch or anything else. And with Kiara simping to get Pekora merch they'll get even more of it back!

And on that note, Kiara is doing her first talk show with Marine this week, which will definitely be exciting (with a BIG secret of something) as well. Sadly the talk show isn't offline (meeting in person) as originally planned due to time constraints for them both, but still finally going ahead.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they're gonna ramp up hard, and Cover will have to create some infrastructure here to sell merch. Atm they have a very small crew here that are more or less glorified translators and PR, and that's not gonna be enough to really push them beyond just superchat revenue

kirbymuncher posted...
I'm kinda of the impression that most of this stuff (even within china) would have been from the JP streamers
Yeah I might've seen like keychains and stuff of the CN girls, but they might've been all from fans.

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pogo_rabid
11/16/20 4:47:16 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
Really? You'd rather let ppl continue to wonder why Coco has to make her chat members only and why she can't collab with like Aqua or Suisei anymore? That's kinda selfish of you
I'd say bringing up drama stuff and talking about it in a topic where some people don't wanna hear about that is a bit more selfish. Spoiler tagging it isn't a huge ask.

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legendarylemur
11/16/20 4:55:46 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
I'd say bringing up drama stuff and talking about it in a topic where some people don't wanna hear about that is a bit more selfish. Spoiler tagging it isn't a huge ask.
It kinda is? You're basically asking certain people to stay ignorant. Due to lack of info, those weibo guys are literally laughing at the support the overseas fanbase was giving the CN girls when they've blatantly contributed to us getting lower quality stream. It's not exactly just drama once it actively affects us. I want dokyo-zu streams, and I can't get it because of these fools, and if the reason was hid bh some spoiler tag that I glazed over, I'd be kinda mad in hindsight.

Just block me if you don't wanna read it. I don't really care

https://mobile.twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1328368428193771534

Nene having an offline collab with Matsuri, Suisei, and Kanata. For some reason Sora wasn't included... despite them doing a group stream to announce their 2nd big group live. Maybe she was busy, but the only time I heard Sora hang out with Holo girls offline is with Suisei. I guess she's doing some idol stuff that's just not that much publicized.

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pogo_rabid
11/16/20 5:04:14 PM
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I if that's your attitude towards it, guess i'll put you on ignore for a few days until you stop posting about it then. Dont wanna block you cause you won't be able to see this topic anymore.

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Funkydog
11/16/20 5:06:15 PM
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No one's asking anyone to stay ignorant. If you can't do "Artia stuff Drama here"

Then I just dunno.

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ModLogic
11/16/20 5:43:52 PM
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11/16/20 6:08:39 PM
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legendarylemur
11/17/20 1:25:36 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
I think it's more that pretty much all of this comes from rumors and speculation from 4chan doxxing. Now some of the info is probably correct but there's no way to ascertain that and it's probably better for this thread to not devolve into 4chan discussion.

Anyway, surprised that no one mentioned this but Kagami Kira is graduating
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1328534212077449216

That's a real fucking shame. He was the first holostar I saw and I really liked him.

Nijisanji's Shiiba has also been going through a lot of difficulties having been fired and having health issues and needing to go to the hospital.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x28QcGjQ51g
People have confirmed seeing the proofs on Weibo. It's a public forum that's on the level of China's reddit, not 4chan lol. Don't get how talking about China antis, Aloe, etc. is ok, but the moment the truth comes out about the ex-HoloCN girls that are honestly pretty easily verifiable with an actual video evidence with Artia's voice and all out there, we gotta censor it cuz some guy doesn't wanna talk about it?

There's a really dumb blatant double standard problem here that makes it absurd that I'm even being asked to spoiler it even if it's by one person. Just block me and get it over with, not censoring myself for just talking about vtubers, which is what this general is about. Didn't even post rumors cuz it's like literally a fact that fully confirmed 3 of the girls HAVE incited spam against Coco. I needed to say it preemptively in case anybody feels bad about them getting booted off without their avatar, because good riddance

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ModLogic
11/17/20 9:07:58 AM
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i want to see kaguya luna play among us.
wonder what happened to her...

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