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Phynaster
11/15/20 7:41:58 PM
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Fucking hell man. Gamers are a plague.



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g0ldie
11/15/20 7:45:52 PM
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"...the beloved Crestfallen Warrior, is now black."

I guess it means he's no longer beloved ;(

he kinda looked like a beardless Drake in the original, though



anyway, yea, gamers were a mistake.

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Reis
11/15/20 7:49:03 PM
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gamers are lil bitches more news at 11
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UnholyMudcrab
11/15/20 7:49:17 PM
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g0ldie
11/15/20 7:53:12 PM
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it's even worse when you go to the Demon's Souls remake board, especially when it comes to the Crestfallen Warrior.

there's a topic asking why he's from Africa, and in another post talking about politics be put in, the OP said something about CW being from Detroit.

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kuwab0
11/15/20 7:53:58 PM
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Satsuki does look like racist War Propaganda

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IllegalAlien
11/15/20 7:55:46 PM
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"""Gamers""" you mean racist shit bags who are emboldened and enabled to shit post without harm (i.e getting negged by real people)

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ssjevot
11/15/20 7:55:58 PM
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Conflict posted...
These people are actually regressive and doing harm to the cause of getting more minority representation in Japanese-developed video games. Who gives a flying one-way shit if the first NPC you see is black, it's better than having no black NPCs at all.

I am pretty sure this remake was developed by a Western company actually. But I agree about who gives a shit what gender or race any of the NPCs are. Unless you hate certain genders or races I fail to see how it matters.

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iPhone_7
11/15/20 7:57:43 PM
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They targeted gamers,

gamers!

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Lost_All_Senses
11/15/20 7:58:59 PM
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These white people are so terrible at aiming their anger. Donald Trump? He gets a pass. BUT THIS?!?!

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Phynaster
11/15/20 8:13:29 PM
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ssjevot posted...
I am pretty sure this remake was developed by a Western company actually. But I agree about who gives a shit what gender or race any of the NPCs are. Unless you hate certain genders or races I fail to see how it matters.
Because they hate certain genders or races lol

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Master_Bass
11/15/20 8:16:21 PM
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So this is the so called "controversy" that as mentioned in another topic. Gamers were a mistake.

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harley2280
11/15/20 8:28:41 PM
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There's a topic about this on the PS5 board where 3 users are having an absolute meltdown.
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kirbymuncher
11/15/20 8:31:53 PM
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There's actually a fair bit to get annoyed over in the remake imo, the visual redesign has stripped a lot of charm from the game and it's kind of baffling to me how the one thing that should undoubtedly be getting better in a remake (graphics) somehow got worse. Most obvious example is the UI but a ton of bosses and areas look worse too

the pic in the first post is just dumb though

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Number090684
11/15/20 8:33:22 PM
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g0ldie posted...
"...the beloved Crestfallen Warrior, is now black."

I guess it means he's no longer beloved ;(

he kinda looked like a beardless Drake in the original, though



anyway, yea, gamers were a mistake.

Crestfallen Warrior was also in Dark Souls and he's white there. He isn't exactly black in the original Demon's Souls either. The complaint is justified.

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MyWifeBeatsMe
11/15/20 8:34:39 PM
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Maybe some of us don't like liberal western devs shoving their political views onto Japanese games?
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ReySkywalker95
11/15/20 8:35:28 PM
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The G A M E R S must be more mad than ever since their fascist leader lost and video games will continue to be progressive.
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Phynaster
11/15/20 8:35:37 PM
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harley2280 posted...
There's a topic about this on the PS5 board where 3 users are having an absolute meltdown.
Did two of them just post itt

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ultimate reaver
11/15/20 8:35:54 PM
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i dunno what people could have done to the graphics in DeS to make the people obsessed with the old style happy, because it has a visual style that cant exist outside of the context of "ps2 graphics barely upscaled enough to look adequate on the PS3". Like, I really love the game and it has a special atmosphere to it that is pretty amazing but I also don't see a way to graphically improve it and also not have things like the maneaters look totally absurd

obviously completely ignoring the brainlets who are having a panic attack over seeing a black person in a game

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Beemo_Season11
11/15/20 8:36:33 PM
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I noticed a lot of this stuff watching streams lol, I kinda thought these NPCs appearances were randomly generated.
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g0ldie
11/15/20 8:37:25 PM
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Number090684 posted...
Crestfallen Warrior was also in Dark Souls and he's white there. He isn't exactly black in the original Demon's Souls either. The complaint is justified.
Crestfallen Warrior in Demon's Souls =/= Crestfallen Warrior in Dark Souls

it's a title/description, not a name.

the only character that carries over is Patches, iirc.

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Number090684
11/15/20 8:37:33 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
Maybe some of us don't like liberal western devs shoving their political views onto Japanese games?

This. Bluepoint didn't seem to make the changes from a purely artistic standpoint. They obviously had a agenda. "Body Type A / B" are the dead giveaway.

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Master_Bass
11/15/20 8:38:20 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
Maybe some of us don't like liberal western devs shoving their political views onto Japanese games?
That black people and women exist? The horror.

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Phynaster
11/15/20 8:38:24 PM
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Number090684 posted...
This. Bluepoint didn't seem to make the changes from a purely artistic standpoint. They obviously had a agenda. "Body Type A / B" are the dead giveaway.
Good. Now shut the fuck up and crawl back to whatever hole you came from

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Middle hope
11/15/20 8:39:24 PM
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Number090684
11/15/20 8:39:47 PM
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Phynaster posted...
Good. Now shut the fuck up and crawl back to whatever hole you came from

Make me.

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__aCEr__
11/15/20 8:40:47 PM
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Take solace in the fact that these people spent $470-570 and had their next-gen experience "ruined" in the first like 5 minutes of a game.

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Kolibri X
11/15/20 8:41:08 PM
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Probably the same bigots who got mad at black nazis.

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g0ldie
11/15/20 8:41:09 PM
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to some people, being respective of gender identities is being "political", and as a result, is worth being offended over

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ghostblob
11/15/20 8:43:11 PM
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Number090684 posted...
This. Bluepoint didn't seem to make the changes from a purely artistic standpoint. They obviously had a agenda. "Body Type A / B" are the dead giveaway.
Tagging as Gamer

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Delirious_Beard
11/15/20 8:43:31 PM
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i don't know if there's a bigger giveaway to not take someone seriously than if they're going on about creators "shoving their political agenda in your face"

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Gamerguymass
11/15/20 8:46:34 PM
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g0ldie posted...
to some people, being respective of gender identities is being "political", and as a result, is worth being offended over

Taking a bunch of helmeted soldiers in a game where they have no known race/gender to then having their heads bare in the remake and all being minorities is pretty obvious pandering.

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MyWifeBeatsMe
11/15/20 8:47:32 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Probably the same bigots who got mad at black nazis.

I value historical accuracy over political correctness.
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ultimate reaver
11/15/20 8:48:28 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
I value historical accuracy over political correctness.

tell me the history of the kingdom of boletaria

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dave_is_slick
11/15/20 8:49:10 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Taking a bunch of helmeted soldiers in a game where they have no known race/gender to then having their heads bare in the remake and all being minorities is pretty obvious pandering.
This. I will be the first to call out people bitching for no reason, like someone's race being changed, but let's not pretend that's the only thing.

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dave_is_slick
11/15/20 8:49:46 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
I value historical accuracy over political correctness.
...It's a fucking fantasy world, what historical accuracy?

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FursonaNonGrata
11/15/20 8:50:45 PM
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Women and blacks Jesus fucking Christ

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LordFarquad1312
11/15/20 8:51:27 PM
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ghostblob posted...
Tagging as Gamer
Can we stop calling these people gamers? Call them what they are: racists or bigots.
I don't want my hobby marred by such stigma.

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g0ldie
11/15/20 8:52:38 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Taking a bunch of helmeted soldiers in a game where they have no known race/gender to then having their heads bare in the remake and all being minorities is pretty obvious pandering.
I just looked at the opening, and the first time you see phantoms, one of them is a woman, and the other one looks like a white guy



the second time you see phantoms, it's a woman and a black guy

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ghostblob
11/15/20 8:53:09 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Can we stop calling these people gamers? Call them what they are: racists or bigots.
I don't want my hobby marred by such stigma.
You can play games without being a gamer

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Kolibri X
11/15/20 8:53:21 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
I value historical accuracy over political correctness.
I know. That was sarcasm.

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Phynaster
11/15/20 8:55:38 PM
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ghostblob posted...
You can play games without being a gamer


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UnholyMudcrab
11/15/20 8:59:08 PM
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harley2280
11/15/20 9:00:15 PM
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MyWifeBeatsMe posted...
Maybe some of us don't like liberal western devs shoving their political views onto Japanese games?

Oh no. Think of the white males.

Japanese developers don't need you to get offended on their behalf. Sony is a Japanese company and own the IP. So really no one gives a fuck snowflake.
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ssjevot
11/15/20 9:04:33 PM
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Reviews on Amazon Japan look pretty good so far. I see one guy whining about how enemies have too much health and he can't get stronger, but that's a classic "git gud" complaint. No one is losing their shit about non-white people (and in case you didn't know women in action games is the default in Japan, so they would definitely not find that unusual).

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ReySkywalker95
11/15/20 9:07:17 PM
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ssjevot posted...
Reviews on Amazon Japan look pretty good so far. I see one guy whining about how enemies have too much health and he can't get stronger, but that's a classic "git gud" complaint. No one is losing their shit about non-white people (and in case you didn't know women in action games is the default in Japan, so they would definitely not find that unusual).
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