Current Events > 2008 Joe Biden: I do not support gay marriage

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UnfairRepresent
11/18/20 2:37:33 AM
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https://youtu.be/l4UPQARTC8E

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 2:38:56 AM
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What's his position 12 years later? Because that seems more relevant and I honestly don't know.

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Irony
11/18/20 2:39:03 AM
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Ok

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joe40001
11/18/20 2:41:25 AM
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People forget that you couldn't support gay marriage back then

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MagnusDJL
11/18/20 2:43:48 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
What's his position 12 years later? Because that seems more relevant and I honestly don't know.

IIRC, I believe he did change his mind at some point later and was even the one to convince Obama to do it.
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Damn_Underscore
11/18/20 2:47:50 AM
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Alt Right Joe Biden

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nfearurspecimn
11/18/20 2:49:52 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Alt Right Joe Biden
lmao

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 2:58:01 AM
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MagnusDJL posted...
IIRC, I believe he did change his mind at some point later and was even the one to convince Obama to do it.

If that's true, then good. I don't really give a shit where his head was in 2008, if he's not gonna stand in the way of it in 2021. I'd like to say Id of been mad at him if I heard it in 2008, but I was getting drunk and not giving a shit about that type of stuff. So it looks like we both grew up in these 12 years lol.

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UnfairRepresent
11/18/20 2:58:42 AM
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MagnusDJL posted...
IIRC, I believe he did change his mind at some point later and was even the one to convince Obama to do it.
Obama claims his daughters changed his mind by asking him he why he hates gay people

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/18/20 3:00:48 AM
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I didnt support gay marriage either until like four years ago. People change their mind.

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Irony
11/18/20 3:01:25 AM
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I highly doubt you changed your mind

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Smackems
11/18/20 3:02:00 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
What's his position 12 years later? Because that seems more relevant and I honestly don't know.
Applesauce and reruns of Andy Griffith

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 3:02:55 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Obama claims his daughters changed his mind by asking him he why he hates gay people

It was Joe Biden posing as his daughter.

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TheoryzC
11/18/20 3:07:01 AM
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Of course he and many others change their minds when its politically convenient but would we rather they stuck to those same views forever?

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Akagami_Shanks
11/18/20 3:12:48 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
Of course he and many others change their minds when its politically convenient but would we rather they stuck to those same views forever?
yes in peoples minds as soon as you say something, no matter if it was decades ago, you're committed to that view forever

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 3:15:01 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
yes in peoples minds as soon as you say something, no matter if it was decades ago, you're committed to that view forever

Except them. They can grow as a person when convenient. It's just no one else can.

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1337toothbrush
11/18/20 3:19:00 AM
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Of course. Biden, like many other opportunist politicians, merely support what they think will get them the most support. After being against it for so long, he turns around and pretends he was with it all along, just like democrats who were against the civil rights movement until their hands were forced and then pretended they were at the forefront of the movement.

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Sayoria
11/18/20 3:19:08 AM
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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 3:22:59 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Of course. Biden, like many other opportunist politicians, merely support what they think will get them the most support. After being against it for so long, he turns around and pretends he was with it all along, just like democrats who were against the civil rights movement until their hands were forced and then pretended they were at the forefront of the movement.

Even if that's true. The shittiest part is that with all that they're still dramatically a better option. Which is why the 2 party system is and always has been garbage. Constantly voting between people you never wanted.

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armandro
11/18/20 3:40:50 AM
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Listen to his words


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Aridi
11/18/20 3:51:49 AM
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In 2008 Trump was a Democrat. Who cares about 2008? This isn't Twitter.

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1337toothbrush
11/18/20 3:55:34 AM
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Aridi posted...
In 2008 Trump was a Democrat. Who cares about 2008? This isn't Twitter.
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iPhone_7
11/18/20 4:20:42 AM
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Obama & Biden probably didnt support it because it would have hurt them politically.

I dont buy the my daughters excuse from Obama.

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Endgame
11/18/20 5:02:46 AM
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You can dig up a lot of bad shit on Joe Biden by actually paying attention to anything he says in any given year.

Fucker was besties with Strom Thurmond (It seems most people on this website don't even comprehend how awful Thurmond actually was. He's AT LEAST just as evil as Trump.) and praised another white supremacist by likening him to a literal fucking Confederate general. An enemy of America.

Now that "he's not Trump" is no longer a factor, I strongly suggest turning on him real fast. ESPECIALLY after the news that he's privately talking about NOT taking legal action against Trump broke out.

MagnusDJL posted...


IIRC, I believe he did change his mind at some point later and was even the one to convince Obama to do it.

He didn't. Obama was planning on making it part of his platform but the senile moron let it slip early and ended up being credited for "changing Obama's mind".

When really, Obama likely always supported it but said he didn't back when it was political suicide to do so.

iPhone_7 posted...
Obama & Biden probably didnt support it because it would have hurt them politically.

Obama yes.

Biden really is just a Republican with a D next to his name. He is probably still secretly against it.
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St0rmFury
11/18/20 6:05:27 AM
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Biden is why civil forfeiture is a thing.
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1337toothbrush
11/18/20 6:08:04 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Biden is why civil forfeiture is a thing.
I wonder how long democrats are going to shriek "but Trump!!!" in response.

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BigB0ss13
11/18/20 6:09:06 AM
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I don't even know why people don't support gay marriage. It's not hurting anyone except their fake imaginary god person made up by man with sharper weapons than others back in the day.
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Firewerx
11/18/20 6:21:25 AM
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Endgame posted...
Biden really is just a Republican with a D next to his name. He is probably still secretly against it.
That doesn't really matter, so long as he doesn't try to turn the clock back.

Tolerance is about accepting that sometimes, you just have to stand back and let people do something you may not personally approve of. Unfortunately, tolerance is never going to be good enough for people who insist that nothing less than wholehearted endorsement will do.

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Jiek_Fafn
11/18/20 6:32:05 AM
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Joe will support what America tells him to support. Which tbh I prefer

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UnfairRepresent
11/18/20 11:32:10 AM
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BigB0ss13 posted...
I don't even know why people don't support gay marriage. It's not hurting anyone except their fake imaginary god person made up by man with sharper weapons than others back in the day.
Because people are bigoted and hateful and do not believe in equality

A lot of religios people especially

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The Trent
11/18/20 11:34:01 AM
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cancel!

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Yazarogi
11/18/20 11:35:23 AM
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It's almost like someone can change their stance on a subject after learning more about it, or adhering to new societal standards.

I mean, it's not like he's banning LGQBT+ army soldiers, or attempting to stock the courts with alt right judges to overturn stuff like gay marriage, and abortion.

keep the church and the state separate

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FrozenPie
11/18/20 11:35:45 AM
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Like all politicians, they follow whichever way the wind blows.
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Yazarogi
11/18/20 11:36:17 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Biden is why civil forfeiture is a thing.

Can you explain how this is relevant to this topic, or are you just trying our the whataboutism today?

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Balrog0
11/18/20 11:36:19 AM
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Endgame posted...


He didn't. Obama was planning on making it part of his platform but the senile moron let it slip early and ended up being credited for "changing Obama's mind".

When really, Obama likely always supported it but said he didn't back when it was political suicide to do so.

I don't think that's a fair description of what happened

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DarkChozoGhost
11/18/20 11:38:44 AM
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Yeah Biden is pretty awful. Hundreds of millions of times better than Trump, but pretty damn bad

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bloodydeath0
11/18/20 11:39:37 AM
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it's less about "changing your mind" and more about "how good is your judgment to support unpopular social justice movements ahead of its time"

i'm glad he changed his mind, but it just begs the question, what social issues is he on the wrong side of today?

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LunaLunaLu
11/18/20 11:39:38 AM
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oh noes
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pogo_rabid
11/18/20 11:42:51 AM
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joe40001 posted...
People forget that you couldn't support gay marriage back then
Bernie did, because he's not a spineless degenerate neoliberal like Biden and Clinton are.

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DarkChozoGhost
11/18/20 11:43:23 AM
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bloodydeath0 posted...
i'm glad he changed his mind, but it just begs the question, what social issues is he on the wrong side of today?
He's on the wrong side of police reform (or center on the the issue, which is immoral too) and the last time I check he was on the wrong side of marijuana legalization.

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iPhone_7
11/18/20 11:51:04 AM
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Biden doesnt want to defund the police, hes on the wrong side of history.

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ThyCorndog
11/18/20 11:53:13 AM
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neoliberals never pave the way for progressive social change. they just join in on it when it's convenient. so this isn't the least bit surprising

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pogo_rabid
11/18/20 11:53:15 AM
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CHM_Punk posted...
I find it fascinating that the same board that attacks Joe Biden for positions he previously held years ago or attack Donald Trump in regards to immigration immediately excuse Bernie Sanders when it comes to his xenophobic Trumpian rhetoric regarding immigrants seeking employment opportunities. What Joe Biden said regarding marriage equality was from 2008, while plenty of Bernies ignorant comments regarding immigration have came as recently as within the last five years lol.
Imagine going to bat for "lesser of two evils" joe fucking biden LOL

What has he ever done to inspire loyalty aside from being "not trump"? I voted for the guy, but he's a piece of shit corrupt politician who does not deserve your average joe sticking up for him.

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Kuuko
11/18/20 11:56:00 AM
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It seems very surprising to people because no one except extremists are against gay marriage in 2020 but in the 2000s it was still a divided issue even among Democrats. Biden actually pushed the party on it in 2011 when he suddenly announced he supported gay marriage, which forced Obama to come out and say he supports it too, and many Democrats followed.

Honestly I think some people might even have short-term memory about the fact that gay marriage has only been legal for 5 years now. The whole gay marriage fight really zoomed after the 2000s and now we're in a spot where 100% of Democrats are on board with it and 100% of Republicans are either on board with it or afraid to say they ever disagreed with it as recently as 2015.

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/20 12:16:44 PM
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Endgame posted...
Biden really is just a Republican with a D next to his name. He is probably still secretly against it.

Tbf, the President could secretly want to kick babies, but if his actions save babies while in office instead, then who the fuck cares lol. Being fake will always be part of the job. Seems silly to focus on what he might think, when he's doing the right thing in that respect anyway. Move on to getting him to fix other problems against his want.

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Poop2
11/18/20 12:22:02 PM
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is this seriously the best reTHUGlicans can come up with?
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