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Zikten 11/20/20 10:18:16 AM #1: |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/11/19/fresh-prince-reunion-will-smith-janet-hubert/?outputType=amp
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cjsdowg 11/20/20 10:32:48 AM #2: |
Well was the bigger person there. Blaming himself. But he literally blamed himself for not guessing her personal life issues that she let slip into the her work life.
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Veggeta X 11/20/20 10:33:38 AM #3: |
Damn I gotta watch the reunion.
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Veggeta X 11/20/20 10:34:17 AM #4: |
Also, Will wasn't the only one who didn't get along with her. Didn't the rest of the cast member said she was crazy?
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RedJackson 11/20/20 10:34:29 AM #5: |
Veggeta X posted...
Damn I gotta watch the reunion. Same. Haven't peeped it yet --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 11/20/20 10:35:31 AM #6: |
Link isnt working.
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Funkydog 11/20/20 10:36:33 AM #7: |
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PoundGarden 11/20/20 10:37:50 AM #8: |
cjsdowg posted...
Well was the bigger person there. Blaming himself. But he literally blamed himself for not guessing her personal life issues that she let slip into the her work life. To be fair, and this is the HR admin in me, while people re supposed to leave home at home that's not always possible. It's in everyone's best interest to have a dialogue with the troubled employee/actor and see if they want to talk or need a day or two off. It is astonishing how simply acknowledging that someone clearly isnt 100% can improve their performance and attitude, sometimes people just want to talk/vent or just know that someone else there cares enough to ask. As the star of the show, I think that may have gone a long way with her if Will had had that conversation. Not his responsibility per se, but at the same time if you want your show/business to run smoothly you try and retain your talent (to a reasonable extent of course). --- "You cannot even beat somebody into that level of stupidity and delusion." Me, on Trump supporters ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 11/20/20 10:41:35 AM #9: |
PoundGarden posted...
this is the HR admin in meOh nice can I ask you some HR questions? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 11/20/20 10:47:07 AM #10: |
I mean the rumor was that he said "after i get done with you youll never work in this business again."
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Twin3Turbo 11/20/20 10:48:54 AM #11: |
Veggeta X posted...
Also, Will wasn't the only one who didn't get along with her. Didn't the rest of the cast member said she was crazy?Not sure about in more recent times butIve definitely seen previous interviews over the years where other cast members stated less than favorable things about her. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/20/20 10:50:09 AM #12: |
spikethedevil posted...
Link isnt working. try this one https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/fresh-prince-stars-smith-janet-hubert-end-longtime/story?id=74306130 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/20/20 10:50:22 AM #13: |
PoundGarden posted...
To be fair, and this is the HR admin in me, while people re supposed to leave home at home that's not always possible. It's in everyone's best interest to have a dialogue with the troubled employee/actor and see if they want to talk or need a day or two off. It is astonishing how simply acknowledging that someone clearly isnt 100% can improve their performance and attitude, sometimes people just want to talk/vent or just know that someone else there cares enough to ask. First you sound like a very nice HR person. But I get your point, but Will was 20 something at the time and she was 40 something and seasoned. That is way to much weight to put on well. To understand the emotional well being of a adult women. Also other people felt the same way. You noticed Carlton wasn't out there for no damn hugs. A lot of people attacked him for this. But you don't have to give someone forgiveness. Lastly this one is pure guessing. But if everyone else loved her then I don't think Will would have push to have her gone. Will has worked with so many people and she is the only person who attacks him like that. But I am bias ever since I was little kid he was been my favorite actor . But I think this POV was non bias. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 11/20/20 10:55:15 AM #14: |
Her proper titles are:
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Taharqa_ 11/20/20 11:01:57 AM #15: |
cjsdowg posted...
First you sound like a very nice HR person. But I get your point, but Will was 20 something at the time and she was 40 something and seasoned. That is way to much weight to put on well. To understand the emotional well being of a adult women. Also other people felt the same way. You noticed Carlton wasn't out there for no damn hugs. A lot of people attacked him for this. But you don't have to give someone forgiveness. Will was 22 and Janet Hubert was 34 when the show started. I thought she was older as well but she was still young too. OG Aunt Viv was amazing in that role though. She really did get the short end of the stick. Like a lot of things that tend to go sideways, this could have been handled much better if people would have just communicated instead of making assumptions. I have to check myself on that at times too and realize if someone might be in a bad mood it might not even be about me, it could be personal problems that they might be going through. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/20/20 11:03:59 AM #16: |
Also Light Skin Aunt Viv... THE best Aunt Viv. I said it .. Don't @ me bro.
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VipaGTS 11/20/20 11:04:36 AM #17: |
I mean lets not act like jealousy didnt play a role here either. Will Smith was a rapper with no acting experience running the show. Decisions were rightfully made around him. She was an established actress who felt slighted because of it. Whatever personal issues she had got coupled with her resentment of how the execs generally put Will above her and the fact that he was the much bigger star.
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Lairen 11/20/20 11:08:23 AM #18: |
spikethedevil posted...
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CableZL 11/20/20 11:12:51 AM #19: |
cjsdowg posted...
Also Light Skin Aunt Viv... THE best Aunt Viv. I said it .. Don't @ me bro. I'll fight you --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 11/20/20 11:14:34 AM #20: |
cjsdowg posted...
Also Light Skin Aunt Viv... THE best Aunt Viv. I said it .. Don't @ me bro.@cjsdowg da fuq Literally no redeeming qualities AT ALL Gave her no personality besides housewife I don't think she even had a storyline since her first episode on the show --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 11/20/20 11:22:01 AM #21: |
Veggeta X posted...
Also, Will wasn't the only one who didn't get along with her. Didn't the rest of the cast member said she was crazy?At a minimum I know Alfonso Ribeiro was not a fan of her at all. --- *Gheb is my other account* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 11/20/20 11:25:51 AM #22: |
Yeah, from what I remember from interviews I've seen, she was offered a contract renewal at a level of pay she wasn't happy with. She turned it down and demanded more pay. She had some conversations with other cast members after doing that and decided to accept the original offer, but by that time they had already decided to move on.
I THINK that's the gist of it, but the exact details are fuzzy. And yeah, generally, the cast thought she took things too far with her antics off-screen. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/20/20 12:05:52 PM #23: |
When trying to find some facts to bring up to Counter TheoryzC's slander on Light Skin aunt Viv. I came across this...
e did however, perhaps tellingly, exalt Hubert-Whitten, saying: When you make a show, anytime you make a change, it's going to be excruciating and painful. I think that Janet Hubert Whitten brought a really powerful dignity to the show. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/will-smith-gives-his-two-cents-which-aunt-viv-was-better-fresh-prince-debate-a6865116.html At the same time she was saying that she was attacking him and Jada. Like once more I am super Will Fan so I know I might be coming at this with Bias. But I really think it was her. Also back to TheoryzC's slander, I liked Light Aunt Viv's mothering style better. But I will give it up for OG Aunt Viv at the Jail. Hands down New Aunt Viv could not have done that. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 11/20/20 12:09:14 PM #24: |
Can somebody TLDR the feud for me?
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AlisLandale 11/20/20 12:12:13 PM #25: |
The new aunt viv was fine, but the old aunt Viv was like a damn thunderbolt. Really a shame things turned out the way they did and she left.
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Veggeta X 11/20/20 12:12:25 PM #26: |
BeyondWalls posted...
Can somebody TLDR the feud for me?OG Viv: Me want more money The show: No OG Viv: Bye Felicia --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 11/20/20 12:55:14 PM #27: |
TheoryzC posted...
@cjsdowg da fuqNot really her fault. She was a good actress and you could argue was more motherly. But even by that part of the show, it had pretty much shifted to show about Wills relationship and him going to school with Carlton. Even Hillary having her own show she didnt have many storylines that didnt involve Will. I cant imagine how they would have even worked the original aunt Viv into the later seasons and make it like the first 3. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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