Current Events > "I wouldn't want to bring a child into this crazy fucked up world"

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They're the ones who bring the kids in.

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VTBM posted...

They're the ones who bring the kids in.

who?

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Yes, Ive heard selfish shallow people say this

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R1masher posted...

Yes, Ive heard selfish shallow people say this

why do you call them shallow and selfish though?

There's never been a better time to have kids thanks to the increased standard of living and modern medicine

ArianaGrandSlam posted...

I refuse to bring another life into this world when there are so many orphans whose lives I could make a difference in if I wanted a child at that point.

yeah good point, but many people want their own kids

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"Been around the world and found
That only stupid people are breeding"

KazGT6 posted...

why do you call them shallow and selfish though?

because they are, its not about you once you have a kid... I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way

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R1masher posted...

because they are, its not about you once you have a kid... I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way

There are millions of starving children right now, children in orphanages, etc. but you don't care about them. You only care about your own genes, which will be completely dilluted in just a few generations anyways. You are truly the selfish one.

16-BITTER posted...

Yeah but that's after they have the kid. Actually choosing to have a kid in the first place is selfish by definition.

most children arent planned, it just happens after the pee in the butt thing, its hardwired into us to procreate

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16-BITTER posted...

Actually choosing to have a kid in the first place is selfish by definition.

How?

DoubleOSnake posted...

who?

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Yeah, if you feel that way in this day and age, please don't bear children

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R1masher posted...

because they are, its not about you once you have a kid... I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way

...Isn't that a song?

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I find this to be the most immature and ridiculous sentiment

This is the safest and most prosperous time in the history of the world. The people who say this haven't left their city to even see our beautiful and kind world

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VTBM posted...

...Isn't that a song?

Just cause its a theme song dont make it not true

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coh posted...

How?

There's many orphans or foster kids that need help and you're choosing to instead create a brand new baby for why?

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coh posted...

There's never been a better time to have kids thanks to the increased standard of living and modern medicine

Were are in the midst of a global pandemic and also have the erosion of the climate to look forward to.

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coh posted...

How?

You're holding importance to your own genetics which you are deeming worthy of carrying on.

Millions of needy orphans out there, but you seem to think that your own genes are more worthy of passing on. The fallacy is that your genes dillute within just a few generations anyways to where it's unrecognizable.

It's such a stupid sentiment. Just say you don't want kids. Quit trying to make it out to be this altruistic decision. Having a normal existence in the United States is objectively better than not having one.

Emphasis on the normal, as it's usually the better off people making this statement.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

There's many orphans or foster kids that need help and you're choosing to instead create a brand new baby for why?

yeah i agree. There goes the whole anti abortion argument, "loads of people are just waiting to adopt kids that were not aborted" etc.....

KazGT6 posted...

yeah i agree. There goes the whole anti abortion argument, "loads of people are just waiting to adopt kids that were not aborted" etc.....

Most people who want to adopt only want infants which are rare. By the time you hit 1 yr old your chances of being adopted if you haven't been already drops to practically nothing. So there's always a large amount of people who want to adopt but they only want "super specific rare criteria" so there's always an apparent surplus of adopting parents. Meanwhile the foster care system is in shambles from all the unadopted children.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Most people who want to adopt only want infants which are rare. By the time you hit 1 yr old your chances of being adopted if you haven't been already drops to practically nothing. So there's always a large amount of people who want to adopt but they only want "super specific rare criteria" so there's always an apparent surplus of adopting parents. Meanwhile the foster care system is in shambles from all the unadopted children.

the foster care system is in shambles? have not really read too much on that

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DoubleOSnake posted...

the foster care system is in shambles? have not really read too much on that

The foster care system is a mess of legal custody / guardianship, poor health / mental health, and child abuse.

So let's say you're accepted as a foster parent. Here's some of the shit you might expect.

1. You're being given a kid that has been sexually abused by their parents. They are disturbed and you are uniquely unqualified to deal with this. As are most of their other foster parents. Mounting medical and behavioral problems that are never properly attended to result in them being shuffled around from house to house as the foster parents get rid of them.
2. You're being given a child that was removed from their home over safety concerns. The parents are fighting a legal battle that can end at any moment with the result of the kid being taken and brought back to one of their parents.
3. You get a seemingly normal kid. They like you and you like them and everything is great. Another family that neither of you have heard of 5 cities away files adoption paperwork for them and it gets approved. The kid gets taken from you and given to them.

And that's just problems from the children's origin. Child abuse perpetrated by foster parents is also a huge problem. Many of them see it essentially as "renting" kids.

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If we don't have kids, who's gonna save us from our mistakes?

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Yeah, if you feel that way in this day and age, please don't bear children

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Bringing kids into the world is a bad idea now because the planet is going to be in an awful state in several decades. In 50 years it'll be a climatological and ecological disaster.

every new person you birth is just going to make it worse.

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My kid will solve it.

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Wetterdew posted...

every new person you birth is just going to make it worse

one of these new person you birth could be the savior

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Lonestar2000 posted...

Were are in the midst of a global pandemic and also have the erosion of the climate to look forward to.

Weird how everyone's been on about how much 2020 sucked until this topic. Earth is fucked, people suck, but hey. Modern medicine and longer lifespans. Better than the 1800s. Woopee.

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Wetterdew posted...

Bringing kids into the world is a bad idea now because the planet is going to be in an awful state in several decades. In 50 years it'll be a climatological and ecological disaster.

every new person you birth is just going to make it worse.

The logical solution is clearly for the entire human race to stop reproducing.

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I agree to an extent. I wouldn't be comfortable producing a child unless I could provide a very generous upbringing. Too many people pop out kids and then pat themselves on the back for being parents without considering how good the life they created will actually be.

Would I assign a child to the circumstances that I grew up in? No, fuck no.
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The logical solution is for us to collectively be more responsible about how much we consume. Ever since the mid-20th century America (and many other parts of the world) has just been on this exponential chart of growth. Not just in population size but also in the way we consume products and disregard the environment. It also goes for big corporations and the role they have in our world.

And yeah in many many ways our quality of life has increased. So you might say "well that means now's the best time to breed like crazy" but that's not looking ahead.

Our planet's ecosystem has already been messed up DRASTICALLY in the past century and if we don't PAUSE and reevaluate why it's happened and how it'll continue to worsen, the planet is going to be unlivable very soon and no that's not an exaggeration.

If we could get a big paradigm shift where everybody was living more responsibly then maybe we'd be good to grow even more. But the way we live right now the planet can't sustain us for long. We're straight-up destroying it

R1masher posted...

one of these new person you birth could be the savior

There isn't a single person who would save the planet. We need EVERYBODY to be more responsible, it needs a collective paradigm shift, not just a single person who saves the world while everybody else continues to do their normal crap without ever thinking about the impact they're having

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Wetterdew posted...

There isn't a single person who would save the planet

what if one person could change everyones mind

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Wetterdew posted...

The logical solution is for us to collectively be more responsible about how much we consume. Ever since the mid-20th century America (and many other parts of the world) has just been on this exponential chart of growth. Not just in population size but also in the way we consume products and disregard the environment. It also goes for big corporations and the role they have in our world.

And yeah in many many ways our quality of life has increased. So you might say "well that means now's the best time to breed like crazy" but that's not looking ahead.

Our planet's ecosystem has already been messed up DRASTICALLY in the past century and if we don't PAUSE and reevaluate why it's happened and how it'll continue to worsen, the planet is going to be unlivable very soon and no that's not an exaggeration.

If we could get a big paradigm shift where everybody was living more responsibly then maybe we'd be good to grow even more. But the way we live right now the planet can't sustain us for long. We're straight-up destroying it

There isn't a single person who would save the planet. We need EVERYBODY to be more responsible, it needs a collective paradigm shift, not just a single person who saves the world while everybody else continues to do their normal crap without ever thinking about the impact they're having

With how quickly the human race has gone from horse and buggy to space travel to Mars I'm sure we will find a way to sustain life, whether its on this planet or not.

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Zodd3224 posted...

With how quickly the human race has gone from horse and buggy to space travel to Mars I'm sure we will find a way to sustain life, whether its on this planet or not.

We've already found out how to be sustainable and stop messing up the planet's ecosystem, we know what we have to do, we just aren't willing to do it because we keep thinking "oh somebody will find an easy fix probably in the near future" (and for a bunch of other reasons like politics)

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I'm not going to have any. Sometimes caring for a baby seems nice, but at some point I'm going to lose interest in the child and the mother. It's best to not start a family in the first place.

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This is a thought that's bounced around for me. It might really be another phrase for "I'm not ready/fit for this", which has no shame to it.

Being "ready" for parenthood is almost an unrealistic thing. Things just work out to varying degrees by chance. I'm just trying to fill out the gaping holes of where I'm clearly not ready whether it be creating a new child or adoption.


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I have a friend who shouldn't have had kids (they're ugly, she's miserable and her husband is useless) and what drives me up the damn wall is how she always says "Oh, if I had known about Trump/corona/global warming, I would have reconsidered bringing children into the world~~~!"

She's 30. Her kids are both under 5. She had access to all the same doomsaying 90s cartoons and Twitter feeds we all did. There is no excuse for her to have pretended her belly fruit needed to be pollinated. She was selfish before she had kids because she never paid attention to the world and she's selfish now because she feels like she's entitled to pity for having been literally too self-centered to watch the news once in the first two decades of her life.

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VanananaHeyHey posted...

I have a friend who shouldn't have had kids (they're ugly, she's miserable and her husband is useless) and what drives me up the damn wall is how she always says "Oh, if I had known about Trump/corona/global warming, I would have reconsidered bringing children into the world~~~!"

She's 30. Her kids are both under 5. She had access to all the same doomsaying 90s cartoons and Twitter feeds we all did. There is no excuse for her to have pretended her belly fruit needed to be pollinated. She was selfish before she had kids because she never paid attention to the world and she's selfish now because she feels like she's entitled to pity for having been literally too self-centered to watch the news once in the first two decades of her life.

You ever think maybe youre not really her friend at all? Lol


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There's being a parent, and there's being someone who had a kid(s), completely overlooking that having a kid isn't something you'll ever be "off the hook" of. No take-backs. If that was the case they should've been abandoned by their own parents.

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