Current Events > YR: Biden announces a 100% net worth tax on net worth over $133 billion

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Theon_Greyjoy
11/30/20 2:21:22 PM
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If your net worth goes over $133 billion, that all goes straight to Uncle Sam

Would you support this tax policy?

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Alteres
11/30/20 2:22:14 PM
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how do you liquidate net worth without crashing companies?

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SquirtleSkwad
11/30/20 2:22:30 PM
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I bet this idea sounded smart when you typed it out.

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Theon_Greyjoy
11/30/20 2:22:41 PM
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Alteres posted...
how do you liquidate net worth without crashing companies?
Not my problem

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Kaiganeer
11/30/20 2:23:15 PM
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are the nets made of solid gold or what
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TheMikh
11/30/20 2:23:34 PM
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biden should nationalize the central banks

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Turbam
11/30/20 2:24:29 PM
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What does Uncle Sam do with the money?

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Prismsblade
11/30/20 2:26:17 PM
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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
Not my problem
It is for everyone who uses their services.

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Pope_Francis_I
11/30/20 2:28:00 PM
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And so it begins
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nemu
11/30/20 2:28:51 PM
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I assume he has had a stroke and have little worry because his staff people should be able to get him the best care.
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Neckhomachus
11/30/20 2:29:18 PM
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Should start it at a billi
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Endgame
11/30/20 2:31:19 PM
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Yeah..... no. Biden would obey every command from someone that makes that kind of money.

Did Bernie Sanders replace and disguise himself as Biden? Because that would be awesome.
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uwnim
11/30/20 2:50:37 PM
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That sounds rather bad. You dont want hard caps. Soft caps are fine, but hard caps are terrible. This would encourage these folks to figure out how to crash the economy(or rather the markets) for the duration of Bidens presidency.

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uwnim
11/30/20 2:51:52 PM
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Alteres posted...
how do you liquidate net worth without crashing companies?
Dont liquidate and have the government accept payment in stocks and other such things.

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Tyranthraxus
11/30/20 2:53:57 PM
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So since my debt is part of my net worth does that mean my debt gets taxed if it's over $133 billion?

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Alteres
11/30/20 2:54:02 PM
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uwnim posted...
Dont liquidate and have the government accept payment in stocks and other such things.
So the government ends up owning the companies?

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Theon_Greyjoy
11/30/20 2:57:01 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
So since my debt is part of my net worth does that mean my debt gets taxed if it's over $133 billion?
Not sure I understand the question. If your assets are worth $200 billion and your liabilities are $75 billion, your net worth is only $125 billion.

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uwnim
11/30/20 3:13:43 PM
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Alteres posted...
So the government ends up owning the companies?
Right

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Tyranthraxus
11/30/20 3:39:32 PM
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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
Not sure I understand the question. If your assets are worth $200 billion and your liabilities are $75 billion, your net worth is only $125 billion.

Correct but what if I only had $50 billion debt. I have $150 billion net worth now. That means I have to pay $17 billion in tax according to you so what % of that is taxes on my debt?

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Balrog0
11/30/20 3:44:11 PM
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I assume it would just make billionaires spend more quickly?

Not really sure? Maybe they'd hire more? They're almost definitely not just taking the tax hit

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Tyranthraxus
11/30/20 3:45:26 PM
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Also who appraises the net worth? The US Government can't really just send IRS agents to Ireland to look at Trump's golf course.

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Balrog0
11/30/20 3:47:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Also who appraises the net worth? The US Government can't really just send IRS agents to Ireland to look at Trump's golf course.

this isn't the same proposal obviously but the most common wealth tax ideas come from Saez and Zucman, they recommend requiring banks to report assets to the government directly (bypassing issues with self-reporting)

that only partially answers your question

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Theon_Greyjoy
11/30/20 4:37:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Correct but what if I only had $50 billion debt. I have $150 billion net worth now. That means I have to pay $17 billion in tax according to you so what % of that is taxes on my debt?
I would say you don't pay any taxes on your debt, in the same way that you don't pay income taxes on deductions.

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Tyranthraxus
11/30/20 4:40:27 PM
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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
I would say you don't pay any taxes on your debt, in the same way that you don't pay income taxes on deductions.

Why not taxes on debt?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax

What's wrong with lowering my debt at the same time as I lower my net worth?

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WilliamPorygon
11/30/20 4:44:28 PM
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Yeah, as much as I'm for making the rich pay more taxes, I'm not for totally overdoing it like this plan does.

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