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ZombiePelican 12/11/20 8:21:05 AM #1: |
The dude is such a hypocrite. He has the audacity to talk about how progressive and woke he is while crunching his subordinates to insane levels. Like you really can't claim to be a bastion of progressiveness when you treat your underlings like expendable trash
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The Trent 12/11/20 8:22:30 AM #2: |
but i don't know who that is
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Veggeta X 12/11/20 8:23:56 AM #3: |
Nobody woke is actually progressive.
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Doom_Art 12/11/20 8:30:24 AM #5: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
but he taught me that revenge is bad, hes couldnt possibly be a bad mani don't get why people are so upset at a game having a simple theme like virtually every other form of fiction since the dawn of civilization --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/11/20 8:31:36 AM #6: |
ZombiePelican posted...
when you treat your underlings like expendable trashhe did this? I saw something about TLoU2's crunch time, but I also saw something about the company's management trying to limit hours developers worked so they wouldn't be there for an extended amount of time, so idk if they were pressured, coerced, forced, etc. to work all of that extra time. --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 12/11/20 8:51:46 AM #8: |
g0ldie posted...
he did this?Yes, read up on the stories of the insane crunch he put his employees through and how for a time they literally had to hire movie CGI animators because nobody experienced in game development animation wanted to work under the insane levels of crunch at Naughty Dog https://gamerant.com/former-naughty-dog-animator-says-studios-crunch-reputation-makes-near-impossible-hire-experienced-game-animators/ --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/11/20 8:53:01 AM #9: |
yea, too bad TLoU2 didn't have any dead mystics to pull the player in a purgatorial state to reflect on the consequences of their actions
nevermind that both stories were aiming for different things about the ramifications of violence, though... --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 12/11/20 8:55:33 AM #10: |
g0ldie posted...
yea, too bad TLoU2 didn't have any dead mystics to pull the player in a purgatorial state to reflect on the consequences of their actionsExcept the narrative of TLoU2 doesn't work or make any sense under even the slightest magnifying glass. Spec Ops: The Line did this kind of narrative better without trying to paint itself as some kind of huge leap forward for narrative in gaming --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 12/11/20 8:56:51 AM #11: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
The Sorrows segment in MGS3 is still more effective than any named-but-still-random NPC calling out to another named-but-still-random NPC at showing you what a bastard you are for killing so much. and thats just one exampleUh plenty of games give random enemies names. I'm still laughing at how that and dog whimpering triggers people so much. Sounds like projection. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/11/20 8:56:59 AM #12: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Except the narrative of TLoU2 doesn't work or make any sense under even the slightest magnifying glass.Clearly you're in the minority on this opinion here Made perfect sense to me and apparently most other people --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/11/20 8:58:24 AM #13: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Except the narrative of TLoU2 doesn't work or make any sense under even the slightest magnifying glass.how so? have any examples, or anything? ZombiePelican posted... Spec Ops: The Line did this kind of narrative better without trying to paint itself as some kind of huge leap forward for narrative in gamingone, I disagree, and two, how can you make that claim against TLoU2 while saying differently about Spec Ops? --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/11/20 9:10:38 AM #14: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Yes, read up on the stories of the insane crunch he put his employees through and how for a time they literally had to hire movie CGI animators because nobody experienced in game development animation wanted to work under the insane levels of crunch at Naughty DogI was reading through the guy's Twitter thread, and I didn't see anything about Druckmann forcing people to do anything outside of the legal team trying to get him to sign an NDA about the company's practices. I was looking, and it seems like ND has been known for its crunch time since its Uncharted 2 days, and people go into the company knowing that but it could just be Druckmann talking; idk https://www.dualshockers.com/neil-druckmann-naughty-dog-crunch-comment/ --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 12/11/20 9:18:52 AM #16: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
but he taught me that revenge is bad, hes couldnt possibly be a bad man"Revenge is bad" isnt even a prominent theme in the game imo, the whole thing is about grief & a (very obvious) meta-commentary on the aesthetics of violence in video games. not saying tlou2 had the best story but so much of the criticisms i see of the game come from ppl who clearly didnt even seem to play it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/11/20 9:22:10 AM #17: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
violence is fun, what makes you think Im at all triggered by it?how was the execution sloppy --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 12/11/20 9:25:34 AM #19: |
Is work slave driving during crunch time really anti-progressive, though?
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Romulox28 12/11/20 9:30:23 AM #20: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
did YOU play it? Holy shit are you kidding me?at no point in the game did i encounter a scene where i felt like the writers were trying to discuss the ethics of revenge, its pretty fucking obvious to any adult playing the game that going on a warpath to murder a bunch of people might potentially not be a morally sound choice. this is not a marvel movie or nickelodeon show. the writers make it very clear that grief is the motivator on both sides, thats literally the whole point of those joel flashbacks --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hippocrates 12/11/20 9:34:31 AM #22: |
Why have you allowed a literal video game to break your mind
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Romulox28 12/11/20 9:41:28 AM #23: |
ArianaGrandSlam posted...
Yeah Ellies single-minded focus on revenge totally doesnt drive Dina away and get several people killed while the game takes every step to show you what a consumed monster shes being by humanizing the other deranged monsters, how foolish of me to read it that way, theres not a hint of it in the game at allidk i guess you're free to interpret the story however you want, i dont really feel like arguing further on this. i didnt even like the game all that much. just thought it was a very reductive statement to make the plot sound like an after school special --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 12/11/20 9:41:54 AM #24: |
There's lot of themes in the game and it's fine to interpret it anyway you like. What's the problem here? That someone understood the game differently from you?
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ssk9716757 12/11/20 9:43:20 AM #25: |
man, people *really* want an excuse to shit on the inclusivity in the last of us 2. "the director is a piece of shit who overworks his employees so that means he only put in female/queer/trans characters to pretend to be woke."
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Romulox28 12/11/20 9:44:16 AM #26: |
Veggeta X posted...
There's lot of themes in the game and it's fine to interpret it anyway you like. What's the problem here? That someone understood the game differently from you? Romulox28 posted... just thought it was a very reductive statement to make the plot sound like an after school special --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 12/11/20 9:45:05 AM #27: |
ssk9716757 posted...
man, people *really* want an excuse to shit on the inclusivity in the last of us 2. "the director is a piece of shit who overworks his employees so that means he only put in female and trans characters to pretend to be woke."I guess what TC is simply tryna say is you can't respect the art/talent if you can't respect the artist which I understand to a certain degree. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 12/11/20 9:47:56 AM #28: |
a narrative can have multiple themes, and yea, we see
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AvantgardeAClue 12/11/20 10:27:10 AM #29: |
Doom_Art posted...
Clearly you're in the minority on this opinion here According to what, all those awards it was handed I mean awarded last night lol Im so glad Druck accidentally screwed the game out of the players choice award; that wouldve been the crown jewel of the minority opinion angle Im sure --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/11/20 11:01:28 AM #30: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Like you really can't claim to be a bastion of progressiveness when you treat your underlings like expendable trashBut... diverse expendable trash. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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