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UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 6:59:41 PM #1:	Controversial campaign group LGB Alliance insists 'lesbians don't have penises' and is calling for a better recognition of women's rights. Lesbian are facing extinction because of the disproportionate focus on transgenderism in schools, a controversial campaign group for gay rights has claimed. The LGB Alliance, which has been branded a trans hate group by Pink News and other vocal critics, was set up in October 2019 amid concerns that Stonewall, the UKs leading gay rights charity, had become too fixated on gender identity. Its founders, Kate Harris and Bev Jackson, claim to have been cancelled for questioning gender identity theory and airing their concerns about the erosion of womens rights in the face of the transgender movement. Their detractors claim their refusal to include the 'T' in their LGB Alliance is transphobic along with their insistence that sex is binary, not a spectrum and gender is a social construct. They have also been accused of a sinister campaign of abuse on Twitter. On Wednesday, Ofcom chief Melanie Dawes said it would be entirely inappropriate for the BBC to approach groups like the LGB Alliance to balance debates around trans issues after SNP MP John Nicolson, a homosexual, described them as transphobic. Thousands of people signed a recent petition calling on broadcasters not to uncritically platform the group or its supporters. While admitting they do not want to see further reform of the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), which requires a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria for legal recognition as the opposite gender, Ms Harris and Ms Jackson insist they want to be able to discuss all rights without being silenced by the Twitter mob. If you do not accept that everyone has a gender identity then you are automatically labelled transphobic which means you can no longer discuss womens lives and whats happening to lesbians, said Ms Jackson. We are increasingly discovering that lesbians are no longer welcome in the LGBTQ+ world, which is astonishing. Recent months have witnessed significant clashes between transgender rights activists and lesbians holding up signs saying: Lesbians dont have penises and Woman = adult human female. In June, Harry Potter author JK Rowling was branded cruel and anti trans after tweeted criticism of the phrase "people who menstruate" and stated: "If sex isnt real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives." She has been referred to as a trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) on multiple occasions, though she rejects the label. Harry Potter author JK Rowling has been accused of "transphobia" Orwell Prize winning journalist Suzanne Moore left the Guardian in November after facing criticism for writing about female experience belonging to people with female bodies, following the publication of a piece in March headlined: "Women must have the right to organise. We will not be silenced". Alison Bailey, a lesbian criminal barrister who helped to set up the LGB Alliance, is currently suing Stonewall, claiming it collaborated with her chambers to put her under investigation. Lesbians dont have penises, said Ms Jackson. A lesbian is a biological woman who is attracted to another biological woman. Thats obvious. Or at least it was obvious until a few years ago. The LGB Alliances mission statement refers to clinicians concerned about a culture of transing out the gay at the Tavistock Clinic in London, which specialises in offering gender identity development services (GIDS). Ms Harris said: We are both convinced, had we been growing up now, that we would have transitioned. When we say that gender identity theory is eroding the rights of LGB people were in deadly earnest. Referring to her childhood as a tomboy, she added: If I was in school today, I would be taken to one side and helped to come to terms with the fact that I was gender non-conforming. And how special would I feel? What child would turn down additional attention? Citing scientific studies which have found elevated rates of autism in transgender people, she said: This is what drives us. We were recently talking to a teacher in a SEN [special educational needs] school who said there were 24 trans kids, one non binary, but no gays and lesbians. *Is lesbianism going to become extinct? Yes. It's deeply uncool. At school, in university, it is so uncommon, it is the bottom of the heap. Becoming trans is now considered the brave option.* Having raised concerns about the exponential rise of children seeking to change sex, the pair have welcomed the recent High Court ruling in the Keira Bell case, which said trans children should not receive puberty blockers unless they understand the long-term risks and consequences. Miss Bell, 23, who was born female, was prescribed the hormone drugs by the Tavistock Clinic at the age of 16 and went on to have a double mastectomy, but now regrets transitioning and successfully argued the centre should have challenged her more on her decision to transition to a male. This girl has been to hell and back, so youd think Stonewall would be saying 'What a brave individual'. But there havent been any human rights organisations standing up for her." Nancy Kelley, head of Stonewall described the Bell verdict as shocking. Following accusations of being associated with neo Nazis, Ms Jackson said: We have no connection whatsoever with any far right organisation, any religious right organisation. That came after its Just Giving and Go Fund Me pages were taken down following complaints by the SNP's Mr Nicolson, who described the LGB Alliance as a hate group which encourages the trolling of trans people and those who champion their rights. The MP for Ochil and South Perthshire is now campaigning for the organisation to be denied the charitable status it applied for in February. He told the Telegraph The LGB Alliance had launched a sinister campaign of abuse against him, with supporters branding him a paedophile a rape enabler and a misogynist online after he questioned their motives. No one is shutting it down, he said. It's incredibly mouthy and loud and obstreperous and perfectly entitled to make the arguments it likes. What I object to is its demonising of trans people. I call the LGB Alliance sinister because it is. It's milking the gullible for cash by claiming it is championing gay rights. Under no circumstances should they get charitable status. The Charity Commission should take one look at its abusive tweets. Ms Harris countered: Google LGBT charities and you will find hundreds. But LGB? None. We need the Charity Commission to show that there is a tolerance for a plurality of views. I erm.... what... I'm not following the logic here. Why would Transgenders being woke (for lack of a better term) mean that girls are no longer lesbians? Are they claiming girls only pretend to be gay to be cool? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948820950] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Controversial campaign group LGB Alliance insists 'lesbians don't have penises' and is calling for a better recognition of women's rights. Lesbian are facing extinction because of the disproportionate focus on transgenderism in schools, a controversial campaign group for gay rights has claimed. The LGB Alliance, which has been branded a trans hate group by Pink News and other vocal critics, was set up in October 2019 amid concerns that Stonewall, the UKs leading gay rights charity, had become too fixated on gender identity. Its founders, Kate Harris and Bev Jackson, claim to have been cancelled for questioning gender identity theory and airing their concerns about the erosion of womens rights in the face of the transgender movement. Their detractors claim their refusal to include the 'T' in their LGB Alliance is transphobic along with their insistence that sex is binary, not a spectrum and gender is a social construct. They have also been accused of a sinister campaign of abuse on Twitter. On Wednesday, Ofcom chief Melanie Dawes said it would be entirely inappropriate for the BBC to approach groups like the LGB Alliance to balance debates around trans issues after SNP MP John Nicolson, a homosexual, described them as transphobic. Thousands of people signed a recent petition calling on broadcasters not to uncritically platform the group or its supporters. While admitting they do not want to see further reform of the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), which requires a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria for legal recognition as the opposite gender, Ms Harris and Ms Jackson insist they want to be able to discuss all rights without being silenced by the Twitter mob. If you do not accept that everyone has a gender identity then you are automatically labelled transphobic which means you can no longer discuss womens lives and whats happening to lesbians, said Ms Jackson. We are increasingly discovering that lesbians are no longer welcome in the LGBTQ+ world, which is astonishing. Recent months have witnessed significant clashes between transgender rights activists and lesbians holding up signs saying: Lesbians dont have penises and Woman = adult human female. In June, Harry Potter author JK Rowling was branded cruel and anti trans after tweeted criticism of the phrase "people who menstruate" and stated: "If sex isnt real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives." She has been referred to as a trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF) on multiple occasions, though she rejects the label. Harry Potter author JK Rowling has been accused of "transphobia" Orwell Prize winning journalist Suzanne Moore left the Guardian in November after facing criticism for writing about female experience belonging to people with female bodies, following the publication of a piece in March headlined: "Women must have the right to organise. We will not be silenced". Alison Bailey, a lesbian criminal barrister who helped to set up the LGB Alliance, is currently suing Stonewall, claiming it collaborated with her chambers to put her under investigation. Lesbians dont have penises, said Ms Jackson. A lesbian is a biological woman who is attracted to another biological woman. Thats obvious. Or at least it was obvious until a few years ago. The LGB Alliances mission statement refers to clinicians concerned about a culture of transing out the gay at the Tavistock Clinic in London, which specialises in offering gender identity development services (GIDS). Ms Harris said: We are both convinced, had we been growing up now, that we would have transitioned. When we say that gender identity theory is eroding the rights of LGB people were in deadly earnest. Referring to her childhood as a tomboy, she added: If I was in school today, I would be taken to one side and helped to come to terms with the fact that I was gender non-conforming. And how special would I feel? What child would turn down additional attention? Citing scientific studies which have found elevated rates of autism in transgender people, she said: This is what drives us. We were recently talking to a teacher in a SEN [special educational needs] school who said there were 24 trans kids, one non binary, but no gays and lesbians. Is lesbianism going to become extinct? Yes. It's deeply uncool. At school, in university, it is so uncommon, it is the bottom of the heap. Becoming trans is now considered the brave option. Having raised concerns about the exponential rise of children seeking to change sex, the pair have welcomed the recent High Court ruling in the Keira Bell case, which said trans children should not receive puberty blockers unless they understand the long-term risks and consequences. Miss Bell, 23, who was born female, was prescribed the hormone drugs by the Tavistock Clinic at the age of 16 and went on to have a double mastectomy, but now regrets transitioning and successfully argued the centre should have challenged her more on her decision to transition to a male. This girl has been to hell and back, so youd think Stonewall would be saying 'What a brave individual'. But there havent been any human rights organisations standing up for her." Nancy Kelley, head of Stonewall described the Bell verdict as shocking. Following accusations of being associated with neo Nazis, Ms Jackson said: We have no connection whatsoever with any far right organisation, any religious right organisation. That came after its Just Giving and Go Fund Me pages were taken down following complaints by the SNP's Mr Nicolson, who described the LGB Alliance as a hate group which encourages the trolling of trans people and those who champion their rights. The MP for Ochil and South Perthshire is now campaigning for the organisation to be denied the charitable status it applied for in February. He told the Telegraph The LGB Alliance had launched a sinister campaign of abuse against him, with supporters branding him a paedophile a rape enabler and a misogynist online after he questioned their motives. No one is shutting it down, he said. It's incredibly mouthy and loud and obstreperous and perfectly entitled to make the arguments it likes. What I object to is its demonising of trans people. I call the LGB Alliance sinister because it is. It's milking the gullible for cash by claiming it is championing gay rights. Under no circumstances should they get charitable status. The Charity Commission should take one look at its abusive tweets. Ms Harris countered: Google LGBT charities and you will find hundreds. But LGB? None. We need the Charity Commission to show that there is a tolerance for a plurality of views. I erm.... what... I'm not following the logic here. Why would Transgenders being woke (for lack of a better term) mean that girls are no longer lesbians? Are they claiming girls only pretend to be gay to be cool? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 12/27/20 7:02:29 PM #2:	As an Irish, we proudly disown these humans and wish to express that terfs are not welcome here. --- for the alcohlics https://www.aa.org/ <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:948821056] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>As an Irish, we proudly disown these humans and wish to express that terfs are not welcome here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 12/27/20 7:04:05 PM #3:	If that's the natural progression of things, who are we to argue? <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:948821123] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>If that's the natural progression of things, who are we to argue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 12/27/20 7:07:04 PM #4:	It's a UK group right? --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:948821233] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>It's a UK group right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 12/27/20 7:08:10 PM #5:	UnfairRepresent posted... We are increasingly discovering that lesbians are no longer welcome in the LGBTQ+ world, which is astonishing. UnfairRepresent posted... LGB Alliance --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:948821272] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>We are increasingly discovering that lesbians are no longer welcome in the LGBTQ+ world, which is astonishing.</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>LGB Alliance</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 12/27/20 7:08:35 PM #6:	Wheres the link to the article ??? --- You're reading a signature on a dying video game websight. Sad! <cite>Caution999 posted [p:948821282] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Wheres the link to the article ??? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 12/27/20 7:09:23 PM #7:	TERFs are the worst. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:948821317] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>TERFs are the worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleDare 12/27/20 7:09:29 PM #8:	E. Page even dissed lesbians by now being a trans straight male. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! <cite>DoubleDare posted [p:948821321] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>E. Page even dissed lesbians by now being a trans straight male. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 7:10:32 PM #9:	Caution999 posted... Wheres the link to the article ??? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/25/lesbians-facing-extinction-transgenderism-becomes-pervasive/ --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948821363] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Caution999 posted... </cite> <quote>Wheres the link to the article ??? </quote>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/25/lesbians-facing-extinction-transgenderism-becomes-pervasive/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 12/27/20 7:10:35 PM #10:	WesternMedia posted... It's a UK group right? that particular brand of the group is irish --- for the alcohlics https://www.aa.org/ <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:948821364] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>WesternMedia posted...</cite> <quote>It's a UK group right? </quote> that particular brand of the group is irish</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 12/27/20 7:11:25 PM #11:	We need to shut down travel from the UK before whatever turns people into terfs spreads. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:948821401] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>We need to shut down travel from the UK before whatever turns people into terfs spreads. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 7:12:13 PM #12:	Intro2Logic posted... We need to shut down travel from the UK Please dear god no --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948821433] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>We need to shut down travel from the UK</quote> Please dear god no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 12/27/20 7:12:26 PM #13:	Intro2Logic posted... We need to shut down travel from the UK before whatever turns people into terfs spreads. It's Harry Potter books. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:948821445] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>We need to shut down travel from the UK before whatever turns people into terfs spreads. </quote> It's Harry Potter books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/27/20 7:14:25 PM #14:	DoubleDare posted... E. Page https://i.imgur.com/3v9bENX.gifv --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948821514] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>DoubleDare posted... </cite> <quote>E. Page</quote>https://i.imgur.com/3v9bENX.gifv </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/27/20 7:18:08 PM #15:	TERFs are the worst --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:948821646] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>TERFs are the worst </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 12/27/20 7:24:28 PM #16:	Where the fuck where they when the hasst eagle went extinct? --- "A dope trailers no place for a kitty, Ricky. Thats why." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:948821882] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Where the fuck where they when the hasst eagle went extinct? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 12/27/20 7:40:20 PM #17:	why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. <cite>Medussa posted [p:948822488] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 12/27/20 7:45:12 PM #18:	Medussa posted... why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page? because tc needs to pretend he's living in the uk --- for the alcohlics https://www.aa.org/ <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:948822677] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page? </quote> because tc needs to pretend he's living in the uk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/28/20 3:18:45 PM #19:	Medussa posted... why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page? This Is the Current Events board We discuss current events --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948850280] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite> <quote>why are we signal boosting the fucking Telegraph signal boosting an organization not even relevant enough to have a wiki page?</quote>This Is the Current Events board We discuss current events </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 12/28/20 3:20:05 PM #20:	Fire TERFs into the sun --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:948850318] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Fire TERFs into the sun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 12/28/20 3:21:18 PM #21:	TERFs are deplorable human beings --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:948850354] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>TERFs are deplorable human beings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 12/28/20 3:23:27 PM #22:	Smashingpmkns posted... TERFs are the worst. --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:948850413] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>TERFs are the worst.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 12/28/20 3:24:44 PM #23:	UnfairRepresent posted... We discuss current events you have a very loose definition of the word "event" --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. <cite>Medussa posted [p:948850463] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>We discuss current events</quote> you have a very loose definition of the word "event" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescente 12/28/20 3:27:24 PM #24:	Dang, you'd think lgbt would be all in support of each other <cite>Crescente posted [p:948850551] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Dang, you'd think lgbt would be all in support of each other </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/28/20 3:28:01 PM #25:	I don't think that's how that works --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:948850573] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's how that works </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 12/28/20 3:28:26 PM #26:	Crescente posted... Dang, you'd think lgbt would be all in support of each other Generally, they are, except for the ones that want to leave out the last letter. To hell with TERFs. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:948850587] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Crescente posted... </cite> <quote>Dang, you'd think lgbt would be all in support of each other</quote>Generally, they are, except for the ones that want to leave out the last letter. To hell with TERFs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 12/28/20 3:30:31 PM #27:	I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:948850644] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/28/20 3:31:45 PM #28:	Gamerguymass posted... I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not. I guess its about marginalisation based on sexuality. I mean race and nationality aren't the same but for lumped together --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948850689] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Gamerguymass posted... </cite> <quote>I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not.</quote>I guess its about marginalisation based on sexuality. I mean race and nationality aren't the same but for lumped together </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 12/28/20 3:32:17 PM #29:	it's a hot picture if tongue not hang out and making out instead. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:948850708] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>it's a hot picture if tongue not hang out and making out instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 12/28/20 3:34:32 PM #30:	Gamerguymass posted... I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not. because the people who were beating us to death really didn't give a shit which flavor of queer it was that they were killing. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! In recognition of your overwhelming victory, let's call it a draw. <cite>Medussa posted [p:948850789] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Gamerguymass posted... </cite> <quote>I never understood why trans was added to LGB in the first place. The first three are about sexual orientation, the last one is not.</quote> because the people who were beating us to death really didn't give a shit which flavor of queer it was that they were killing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mingue 12/28/20 3:34:52 PM #31:	I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences. L, G and B are sexual preferences. T is not. But LGBT works if you're talking about anything other than hetero stuff, I guess. <cite>Mingue posted [p:948850798] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences. L, G and B are sexual preferences. T is not. But LGBT works if you're talking about anything other than hetero stuff, I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 12/28/20 3:53:31 PM #32:	Mingue posted... I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences. Sort of but not always - like if I live as a man but was identified as a female at birth, and I like men, then Im only gay if you consider my gender identity valid. Likewise if I was born as a straight male and still like women after transitioning, then Im not straight. In that sense, TERFs are actually the ones who are erasing lesbians because they refuse to recognize the validity of the existence of trans lesbians. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:948851426] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Mingue posted... </cite> <quote>I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences.</quote>Sort of but not always - like if I live as a man but was identified as a female at birth, and I like men, then Im only gay if you consider my gender identity valid. Likewise if I was born as a straight male and still like women after transitioning, then Im not straight. In that sense, TERFs are actually the ones who are erasing lesbians because they refuse to recognize the validity of the existence of trans lesbians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 12/28/20 3:59:02 PM #33:	Mingue posted... I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences. L, G and B are sexual preferences. T is not. But LGBT works if you're talking about anything other than hetero stuff, I guess. Yeah. I can see how they feel like adding in trans issues to their umbrella kind of confuses and misdirects a lot. They shouldn't be attacking trans groups or make them feel unwelcome though. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:948851614] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Mingue posted... </cite> <quote>I kinda get leaving out the T if you're talking about sexual preferences. L, G and B are sexual preferences. T is not. But LGBT works if you're talking about anything other than hetero stuff, I guess.</quote> Yeah. I can see how they feel like adding in trans issues to their umbrella kind of confuses and misdirects a lot. They shouldn't be attacking trans groups or make them feel unwelcome though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mingue 12/28/20 4:17:41 PM #34:	MrToothHasYou posted... Sort of but not always - like if I live as a man but was identified as a female at birth, and I like men, then Im only gay if you consider my gender identity valid. Likewise if I was born as a straight male and still like women after transitioning, then Im not straight. In that sense, TERFs are actually the ones who are erasing lesbians because they refuse to recognize the validity of the existence of trans lesbians. I think that being L or G or B or straight should be applicable to everyone, just as much for trans people as for non-trans people. So in terms of sexual preference, the T is a bit weird to me. Like, a lesbian trans is a part of the L, but then also a part of the T. Just a bit confusing. AP3Brain posted... They shouldn't be attacking trans groups or make them feel unwelcome though. For sure. <cite>Mingue posted [p:948852280] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>MrToothHasYou posted... </cite> <quote>Sort of but not always - like if I live as a man but was identified as a female at birth, and I like men, then Im only gay if you consider my gender identity valid. Likewise if I was born as a straight male and still like women after transitioning, then Im not straight. In that sense, TERFs are actually the ones who are erasing lesbians because they refuse to recognize the validity of the existence of trans lesbians.</quote>I think that being L or G or B or straight should be applicable to everyone, just as much for trans people as for non-trans people. So in terms of sexual preference, the T is a bit weird to me. Like, a lesbian trans is a part of the L, but then also a part of the T. Just a bit confusing. AP3Brain posted... </cite> <quote>They shouldn't be attacking trans groups or make them feel unwelcome though.</quote>For sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 12/28/20 4:26:49 PM #35:	And in this tent we have the TERFs --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:948852596] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>And in this tent we have the TERFs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/29/20 2:23:45 PM #36:	Medussa posted... you have a very loose definition of the word "event" What's that supposed to mean? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948885616] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite> <quote>you have a very loose definition of the word "event"</quote>What's that supposed to mean? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 12/29/20 4:20:00 PM #37:	Mingue posted... I think that being L or G or B or straight should be applicable to everyone, just as much for trans people as for non-trans people. So in terms of sexual preference, the T is a bit weird to me. Like, a lesbian trans is a part of the L, but then also a part of the T. Just a bit confusing. Sure but my point is that the definitions of homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, etc. are contingent upon your own gender. So if you are transgender then that is part of what defines your sexuality (unless youre pan or ace, etc.) because of the way we define sexual attraction (i.e. between same or different sexes). As another example, if Im born a gay man, and I transition to become a woman, but still like men, then Im straight, even though I may have spent a portion of my life gay. And if Im genderqueer or non-binary, I might go back and forth between identifying as a man or a woman (or neither) and that changes my sexuality as well. This (among other reasons) is why the T is part of the group. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:948889638] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>Mingue posted... </cite> <quote>I think that being L or G or B or straight should be applicable to everyone, just as much for trans people as for non-trans people. So in terms of sexual preference, the T is a bit weird to me. Like, a lesbian trans is a part of the L, but then also a part of the T. Just a bit confusing.</quote>Sure but my point is that the definitions of homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, etc. are contingent upon your own gender. So if you are transgender then that is part of what defines your sexuality (unless youre pan or ace, etc.) because of the way we define sexual attraction (i.e. between same or different sexes). As another example, if Im born a gay man, and I transition to become a woman, but still like men, then Im straight, even though I may have spent a portion of my life gay. And if Im genderqueer or non-binary, I might go back and forth between identifying as a man or a woman (or neither) and that changes my sexuality as well. This (among other reasons) is why the T is part of the group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirtleSkwad 12/29/20 4:21:08 PM #38:	UnfairRepresent posted... https://i.imgur.com/3v9bENX.gifv Is this what I think it is --- "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."-Albert Einstein <cite>SquirtleSkwad posted [p:948889677] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>https://i.imgur.com/3v9bENX.gifv</quote>Is this what I think it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hutton 12/29/20 4:22:27 PM #39:	LGBTQ all got thrown together because they were ostracized. The full idea of gender identity is much more recent than the ostracizing. --- All hail King Hutton Official Carter Hutton fanboy <cite>King_Hutton posted [p:948889717] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>LGBTQ all got thrown together because they were ostracized. The full idea of gender identity is much more recent than the ostracizing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 12/29/20 4:23:43 PM #40:	That was a lot of text and I'm no sure I followed that. Can someone explain? --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:948889759] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>That was a lot of text and I'm no sure I followed that. Can someone explain? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/29/20 4:46:14 PM #41:	OffTempo posted... That was a lot of text and I'm no sure I followed that. Can someone explain? The implication seems to be that being trans is hip, so lesbian girls are becoming men or something --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948890541] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>OffTempo posted... </cite> <quote>That was a lot of text and I'm no sure I followed that. Can someone explain?</quote>The implication seems to be that being trans is hip, so lesbian girls are becoming men or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 12/29/20 4:52:31 PM #42:	so i guess the Ts are not allowed to ride in the car anymore? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:948890797] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>so i guess the Ts are not allowed to ride in the car anymore? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TeaMilk 12/29/20 5:01:29 PM #43:	These guys get mad about "losing" lesbians (when trans guys come out), but I never hear them happy about gaining lesbians. I know way more lesbian trans girls than straight ones lol --- http://large.horse/ Show icons on posts: https://openuserjs.org/scripts/melon/GameFAQs_Show_Icon <cite>TeaMilk posted [p:948891139] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>These guys get mad about "losing" lesbians (when trans guys come out), but I never hear them happy about gaining lesbians. I know way more lesbian trans girls than straight ones lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/29/20 5:30:29 PM #44:	TeaMilk posted... but I never hear them happy about gaining lesbians What a strange sentence TeaMilk posted... I know way more lesbian trans girls than straight ones lol Controversial campaign group LGB Alliance insists 'lesbians don't have penises' They don't accept trans girls as lesbians --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:948892190] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>but I never hear them happy about gaining lesbians</quote>What a strange sentence TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>I know way more lesbian trans girls than straight ones lol</quote> Controversial campaign group LGB Alliance insists 'lesbians don't have penises' They don't accept trans girls as lesbians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frizzurd 12/29/20 6:50:17 PM #45:	I don't agree with everything trans activists argue, but I damn well believe we gay people should be allies to them. --- Super Mario Maker 2: Cauca Ape JVC-2R6-4QG <cite>Frizzurd posted [p:948894861] in Lesbians a... [t:79203164]...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with everything trans activists argue, but I damn well believe we gay people should be allies to them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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