Current Events > Bryan Cranston (Walter White/Hal) comes out as anti cancel culture

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The 64-year-old actor addressed the notion -- the practice of publicly admonishing and potentially ending the careers of public figures when they make remarks or take actions deemed inappropriate or insensitive -- in a video interview posted by The Associated Press on Twitter on Thursday.

"We live in this cancel culture of people airing and doing wrong -- either on purpose or by accident -- and there's less forgiveness in our world," the "Breaking Bad" star said. "I think we're unfortunately in a courser environment. I think our societies have become harder and less understanding, less tolerant, less forgiving."

Cranston said that as he's been asking himself "where does forgiveness live in our society?"

The actor said that he feels that forgiveness can be given to those who are "contrite" and "apologetic."

He explained that cancel culture is creating a division in which people are marked "out" or "in" depending on their behavior, making note that even "one mistake" can render someone "gone."

Bryan Cranston said that cancel culture has created 'less forgiveness in our world.'

Seeing public figures "ostracized for the rest of their lives" has prompted an idea: "I think we need to take a second look at that and exhale and realize that asking forgiveness and receiving forgiveness are not weaknesses, but are human strengths," Cranston said.

The Emmy winner isn't the only star to have questioned the value of cancel culture, as singer Williow Smith spoke out about the subject on an episode of "Red Table Talk."

"Im seeing people shaming others, like saying really terrible things, shaming people for what theyre choosing to say or shaming people for not really saying anything at all," said the 20-year-old star. "But I feel like if we really want change, shaming doesnt lead to learning."


Is he right?
Or is he another spoiled privileged rich old white emissary of the man telling how how to feel and what you should be mad at?


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Unfair, what's your opinion on this cancel culture business? Is it overblown or a real issue?
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I think he's right.

Though we should definitely be calling out bigots, rapists and other riff raff.

People are entitled to their opinions but should be held accountable for their heinous actions.


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UnfairRepresent posted...

Is he right?

No shit, he's right.

Or is he another spoiled privileged rich old white emissary of the man telling how how to feel and what you should be mad at?

What does him being white have to do with anything as well?


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I'm somewhere in the middle. I think it depends on what the person did exactly, and how long ago it was. and also if they have changed since then. like that topic a couple days ago about the 19 year old girl who said the n word on video when she was 15. and then a black student leaked the video when she tried to apply for a college. and it turned out in the years since she was now an ally of Black Lives Matter. but she lost her college shot over the video leak. I was against that.

Vicious_Dios posted...

No shit, he's right.

What does him being white have to do with anything as well?

You just clearly don't understand .

Check your privilege Vicious-Dios

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Privilege? Oh, Privilege?! Where are you?!

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Someone please cancel this alt right shitbag

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Where has this guy been? He has disappeared

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Wii_Shaker posted...

I think he's right.

Though we should definitely be calling out bigots, rapists and other riff raff.

People are entitled to their opinions but should be held accountable for their heinous actions.

Being a rapist is a lot worse than being a bigot

UnfairRepresent posted...

Or is he another spoiled privileged rich old

What hes saying isnt wrong but this brings up something what celebrity has actually been canceled? The only people I can think of are those who committed obvious and horrible crimes like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

So its weird to me that celebrities are always crying about it.

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What exactly do these people expect to happen when they talk about cancel culture? I'm sincerely baffled by this whole issue.

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Shablagoo posted...

What hes saying isnt wrong but this brings up something what celebrity has actually been canceled? The only people I can think of are those who committed obvious and horrible crimes like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

So its weird to me that celebrities are always crying about it.

I can think of ten just from this year alone.

Doja Cat, Kevin Hart, Ellen, etc... (didn't feel like listing them all)

Hell, there's a list of them somewhere.

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Shablagoo posted...

What hes saying isnt wrong but this brings up something what celebrity has actually been canceled? The only people I can think of are those who committed obvious and horrible crimes like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

So its weird to me that celebrities are always crying about it.

I'm not big on gossip and even I know about Ellen, Roseanne, James Gunn, Milo Yiannopoulos and that cook lady who wanted a slavery themed wedding

and probably more if I stopped to think about it

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Vicious_Dios posted...

I can think of ten just from this year alone.

Doja Cat, Kevin Hart, Ellen, etc... (didn't feel like listing them all)

Hell, there's a list of them somewhere.

Ellen is a toxic asshole who abuses her staff. But, she's not cancelled. Nothing happened except she gave a half assed "I'm so sorry" and everyone just went on.

Nobody cared about Kevin Hart.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Milo Yiannopoulos

xD

c'mon man, that d list scrub

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm not big on gossip and even I know about Ellen, Roseanne, James Gunn, Milo Yiannopoulos and that cook lady who wanted a slavery themed wedding

and probably more if I stopped to think about it

Funny how the only one of those that wasn't justified was James Gunn, who of course was cancelled by conservatives acting in bad faith, and got his job back when...cancel culture...canceled Disney I guess.

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E32005 posted...

xD

c'mon man, that d list scrub

I'm not defending or attacking anyone listed

Just off the top of my head people who Cancel Culture went after

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm not defending or attacking anyone listed

Just off the top of my head people who Cancel Culture went after

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Better late than never, seriously cancel culture wouldn't have gotten so bad if Twitter was shut down, it doesn't help that Twitter is a breeding ground for other terrible things as well such as bestiality, the world is just better without Twitter.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm not defending or attacking anyone listed

Just off the top of my head people who Cancel Culture went after

none of those people lost shit save for the one racist imposter in milo

who was never talented to being with so....

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Funny how the only one of those that wasn't justified was James Gunn, who of course was cancelled by conservatives acting in bad faith, and got his job back when...cancel culture...canceled Disney I guess.

Gonna step in and say Gunn was only uncanceled due to overwhelming outcry by marvel fanboys and his co-workers

if he was a singer or didnt have a legion of fanboys he would have been fired and forgotten about

"Well this one has the oxygen of fanaticism to bring him back" isnt a defense of cancel culture in my eyes, if anything it's a condemnation of it.

it's not about what you did but how many fanboys you have

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E32005 posted...

xD

c'mon man, that d list scrub

Also, he got canceled for...*checks notes*

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/24/14715774/milo-yiannopoulos-cpac-pedophile-video-canada

...defending pedophilia. Who wouldnt lose their job for that? Is there really anyone arguing that you shouldnt lose your job if you make comments defending pedophilia??

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You know it's out of hand when cancel culture need to go after dead people. That's literally a joke within itself.

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This isn't surprising. He always seemed like a more forgiving guy. You know, not constantly angry and irritable.

The problem is when someone uses the phrase "cancel culture", some people think Harvey/Bill and others think Aziz/Chris Pratt. The people who fall into being cancelled or attempted to be cancelled are all over the spectrum. That phrase is just best to avoid.

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Shablagoo posted...

? Is there really anyone arguing that you shouldnt lose your job if you make comments defending pedophilia

A ton of people did for George Takei.

But you've switched horses

"This never actually happened to anyone"
"Yes it did"
"Well yeah but some of them probably deserved it right?"

If you lie then you've lost by default. Defend cancel culture if you like it, don't deny that it is exists and then defend it.


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I didnt switch any horses...? If I went and took a shit on my boss desk, and he fired me for it, youd say I got canceled? Youre not really arguing anything, then (as usual).

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old man yells at clouds etc

Revnir posted...

Bryan Carnation

https://youtu.be/JcviVDizlJ0

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Shablagoo posted...

I didnt switch any horses...? If I went and took a shit on my boss desk, and he fired me for it, youd say I got canceled? Youre not really arguing anything, then (as usual).

And now on your 3rd horse.

"This doesn't exist."
"Okay it does exist but they deserve it."
"Okay it may or may not exist and they may or may deserve it but they were fired from a completely different thing!"

Pick a stance and stick to it.

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As a Christian, I believe everyone is capable or at least has the opportunity for redemption and salvation from sin.
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Shaun_Attwood posted...

As a Christian, I believe everyone is capable or at least has the opportunity for redemption and salvation from sin.

Even Adolf Hitler and Joesph Stalin?

Would a 4th quarter conversion absolve them of mass Genocide?

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Even Adolf Hitler and Joesph Stalin?

Would a 4th quarter conversion absolve them of mass Genocide?

I wouldn't presume to know who God/Jesus decides to forgive, but, in theory, yes, if they sincerely repent in their heart and ask Jesus to forgive them.
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I think cancel culture doesnt really exist for people who are already famous - they are basically above consequences after a certain point. Dave Chapelle got cancelled for his transphobic jokes in his one special and hes done like, three new specials since then and hosted SNL multiple times. Louis CK got cancelled and was back to working shows within the year. Basically the only people who have stayed gone are the ones who havent really pushed for a comeback.

As for forgiveness, theres plenty of it when the person being cancelled is genuinely contrite and apologetic. Dan Harmon got cancelled, did an apology on his podcasta damn good apology, basically a masterclass in apologizingand his accuser accepted his apology, public ally forgave him, and his career wasnt affected at all, its as though it never happened.

I would say if there is one problem with cancel culture, its that it really doesnt have any power beyond shaming people, so if youre shameless enough to ignore it or lie through your teeth to deny it there are basically zero consequences. The end result is that the people who really really deserve it dont end up facing any repercussions.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

And now on your 3rd horse.

"This doesn't exist."
"Okay it does exist but they deserve it."
"Okay it may or may not exist and they may or may deserve it but they were fired from a completely different thing!"

Pick a stance and stick to it.

My stance from the beginning has been that it is understandable someone would get fired for making comments, like Milo did, defending pedophilia. Im not sure how youre missing this so hard, it comes off like youre trolling.

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Cancel culture is toxic. I'm seeing more and more examples where it does harm or alienates.

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Shablagoo posted...

what celebrity has actually been canceled?

So its weird to me that celebrities are always crying about it.

Stance from the beginning ^

Shablagoo posted...

My stance from the beginning has been that it is understandable someone would get fired for making comments, like Milo did, defending pedophilia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3hTwsvJV_A


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The problem here is that you believe someone getting fired for saying something heinous is unusual or part of cancel culture. Its not, its just a normal thing that assholes with fucked up beliefs have always gotten fired for.

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MrToothHasYou posted...

I think cancel culture doesnt really exist for people who are already famous - they are basically above consequences after a certain point. Dave Chapelle got cancelled for his transphobic jokes in his one special and hes done like, three new specials since then and hosted SNL multiple times. Louis CK got cancelled and was back to working shows within the year. Basically the only people who have stayed gone are the ones who havent really pushed for a comeback.

As for forgiveness, theres plenty of it when the person being cancelled is genuinely contrite and apologetic. Dan Harmon got cancelled, did an apology on his podcasta damn good apology, basically a masterclass in apologizingand his accuser accepted his apology, public ally forgave him, and his career wasnt affected at all, its as though it never happened.

I would say if there is one problem with cancel culture, its that it really doesnt have any power beyond shaming people, so if youre shameless enough to ignore it or lie through your teeth to deny it there are basically zero consequences. The end result is that the people who really really deserve it dont end up facing any repercussions.

Louis CKs career is a shadow of what is used to be. Hes canceled for all intents and purposes. Even Aziz has been fairly low key since his cancellation.

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Shablagoo posted...

The problem here is that you believe someone getting fired for saying something heinous is unusual or part of cancel culture. Its not, its just a normal thing that assholes with fucked up beliefs have always gotten fired for.

I haven't stated what I believe.

You meanwhile have stated 4 or 5 different contradictory things that you believe. Then lied about it.

Making converstation with you near impossible. Like talking to Cleverbot.


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Zikten posted...

I'm somewhere in the middle. I think it depends on what the person did exactly, and how long ago it was. and also if they have changed since then. like that topic a couple days ago about the 19 year old girl who said the n word on video when she was 15. and then a black student leaked the video when she tried to apply for a college. and it turned out in the years since she was now an ally of Black Lives Matter. but she lost her college shot over the video leak. I was against that.

agreed on this ^. it's on a case by case basis. I do believe in forgiveness, people changing/rehabilitation. you'd have to do something really heinous to make me want to put you in a cell and throw away the key

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Your trolling is too obvious at this point. Time to spend some time polishing your game.

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Arcanine2009 posted...

agreed on this ^. it's on a case by case basis. I do believe in forgiveness, people changing/rehabilitation. you'd have to do something really heinous to make me want to put you in a cell and throw away the key

Like putting pineapple on pizza?

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Alt Right Icon Bryan Cranston

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Lol
people were never forgiving to begin with

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UnfairRepresent posted...

A ton of people did for George Takei.

George Takei did nothing wrong. Why are you bringing him up?

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Kastrada posted...

George Takei did nothing wrong. Why are you bringing him up?

He like Milo said it's okay for people (at least gay men) to have sex with underage boys if the underage boys came on to them.

He said it years before Milo did. No one cared , then when Milo got cancelled right wing nuts brought Takei up and people went full on "But when he does it, it's cute."

And I brought him up solely because Shabalie claimed nobody would do it.

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