Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 357: Insurrection Lasting More than 4 Hours

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Corrik7
01/10/21 4:14:10 PM
#353:


The last thing you want is attacking Trump mercilessly his entire term and then continuing attacking him months after he is out of office. It just reinforces the beliefs that they were out to get him all along. Need to settle it quickly as possible. They could work out details of their bills and such to pass while the trial happens.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/10/21 4:21:14 PM
#354:


I am fine with being out to get criminals.

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Jesse_Custer
01/10/21 4:21:15 PM
#355:


Xeybozn posted...
What worries me about this is the reliance on Trump continuing to be as unpopular as he is right now. There's already loads of people saying we need to let Trump off as a show of national unity; won't this position be even more widespread once he's not an urgent threat?

I could be wrong, but I can see Trump becoming even less popular with the passage of time after hes gone. This may happen as more stuff comes to light, and also if Covid starts to come under control under Bidens administration.
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/10/21 4:25:58 PM
#356:


LapisLazuli posted...
Yes Wang, the capitol attack was not as bad as people are making out to be.

It was worse!

People acting like this was an isolated incident and therefore not really that bad and not representative of America's growing fascist movement really fucks me up

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 4:29:39 PM
#357:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
People acting like this was an isolated incident and therefore not really that bad and not representative of America's growing fascist movement really fucks me up

Legitimately blows my mind that anyone could be trying to downplay what is one of the most significant events in the history of the United States, but just goes to show how brainwashed some people can be.

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 4:32:50 PM
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LordoftheMorons
01/10/21 5:01:43 PM
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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 5:14:30 PM
#360:


Only good thing to come from this is getting to see the Republican politicians break down in confusion just like their MAGA constituants did when Trump lost. Pure unaware idiocy.

"Nazis an Q gone....and me lose followers? Who do this?? Obama???"

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Corrik7
01/10/21 5:56:32 PM
#361:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I am fine with being out to get criminals.
Sounds like you should be about going after them right away and not picking and choosing when to.

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GildedFool
01/10/21 6:15:24 PM
#362:


Corrik7 posted...
The last thing you want is attacking Trump mercilessly his entire term and then continuing attacking him months after he is out of office. It just reinforces the beliefs that they were out to get him all along.
But her emails??

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Corrik7
01/10/21 6:21:09 PM
#363:


GildedFool posted...
But her emails??
Are you saying you consider yourselves equal to the trump people who said that?


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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 6:23:55 PM
#364:


We all knew that if the Republicans lost power they would IMMEDIATELY start demanding everyone hold hands before going back to their "so much for the tolerant left" shtick.

I'm beyond having interested in unity. Fuck these people.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/10/21 6:37:01 PM
#365:


Corrik7 posted...
Sounds like you should be about going after them right away and not picking and choosing when to.

I mean, actual criminals don't always have their court cases at the soonest possible second. I personally am fine with getting them right away, but if they want to pass other things in the senate - such as 2000 checks and other life saving measures, then that sounds ok too

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Jakyl25
01/10/21 6:42:35 PM
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LordoftheMorons
01/10/21 6:47:37 PM
#367:


Pelosi bringing impeachment to the floor:

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1348415798914789382

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 6:47:45 PM
#368:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/rayredacted/status/1348388601118273537?s=21

This is a pretty satisfying clip

It's been incredible seeing this scum learn that actions have consequences.

https://youtu.be/L0eT8e9T-_Q

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Mr Lasastryke
01/10/21 6:51:47 PM
#369:


why do all the male capitol rioters seem to have facial hair?

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KamikazePotato
01/10/21 6:57:50 PM
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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 7:11:09 PM
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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 7:11:22 PM
#372:


Colin Powell has left the Republican party.

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 7:41:58 PM
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LordoftheMorons
01/10/21 7:54:03 PM
#374:


Stripe cuts off payments to Trumps campaign website:

https://twitter.com/rover829/status/1348403649517674497?s=21

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TotallyNotMI
01/10/21 7:59:05 PM
#375:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/silentkil_er/status/1348343347522408449?s=09

Do I need to watch this show?
What show is this?

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 8:05:20 PM
#376:


TotallyNotMI posted...
What show is this?

Further investigation reveals it to be a Netflix movie called Death to 2020 from the Black Mirror team.

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Jakyl25
01/10/21 9:19:56 PM
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LordoftheMorons
01/10/21 10:40:42 PM
#378:


https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1348474362672914438

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 10:54:18 PM
#379:


Without Twitter and Golf, literally what else does Trump even have in his life?

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LapisLazuli
01/10/21 10:58:02 PM
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Jakyl25
01/10/21 11:27:55 PM
#381:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/silentkil_er/status/1348343347522408449?s=09

Do I need to watch this show?


https://twitter.com/titoortiz/status/1348403346437070851?s=21

Tito Ortiz cant tell that its satire

Holy shit
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Grimlyn
01/10/21 11:36:57 PM
#382:


LapisLazuli posted...
Parler CEO basically says they're fucked. All their lawyers left, too.

https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1348372956246732800?s=20
lmao

I was already laughing at the "many competing for our business" line when they said it but it's always fun when they fall apart so incredibly quickly

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 2:05:17 AM
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KamikazePotato
01/11/21 2:17:38 AM
#384:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/Mulkiizm/status/1348402887156789250
This has got to be the best example of 'saying the quiet part out loud' ever, right?

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red13n
01/11/21 2:41:09 AM
#385:


I appreciate that in spite of some big mistakes prior to the 2016 election and Trump's attempted fuckery the FBI is still mostly a very effective organization.

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CoolCly
01/11/21 3:18:12 AM
#386:


What's the deal with Parler? Is it some kind of Twitter clone? I've never heard about it at all until the last few days, when suddenly conservatives are apparently jumping ship to it, but now suddenly Amazon is dumping it? What exactly happens there and why is it getting dumped?

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red sox 777
01/11/21 3:22:32 AM
#387:


Parler is a Twitter clone without moderation. Although, it apparently does have a TOS against calls for violence/criminal activity that has been largely unenforced.

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TheRock1525
01/11/21 3:25:20 AM
#388:


Just remember that all the people upset Parler is getting banned were also a-ok with Christian bakeries not having to make cakes for gay people.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 4:34:13 AM
#389:


https://twitter.com/parlertakes/status/1348543836872613888

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red sox 777
01/11/21 4:53:48 AM
#390:


The situation isn't really the same as with the bakeries. It would be more like if there were a handful of bakery companies that made 99% of cakes in the country, and all of them refused to make cakes for a certain class of people. Or, I suppose, if there were a great many bakeries, and again bakeries with market share adding up to 99% refused to bake cakes for certain people.

When a company or a group of companies form a monopoly/duopoly, they have a much greater impact. An extreme example would be the East India Company, which was effectively the government of India and had a legal monopoly. The South Seas Company was granted a similar monopoly for trade with South America, except that in their case it was useless because there was no trade.

I think what I'm getting out of this is that large corporations in the US are too powerful and they should be broken up. Some of you will favor regulation but I don't think that will ever really work, and is a pathway to even more danger, if the regulator is the one screwing things up. The best way is aggressive use of the anti-trust law to break up corporations with excessively high market share.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 5:03:36 AM
#391:


People on Parler were literally urging people to blow up AWS servers, so I really don't think you can fault Amazon for dumping them!

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HeroicCrono
01/11/21 5:11:45 AM
#392:


LordoftheMorons posted...
People on Parler were literally urging people to blow up AWS servers, so I really don't think you can fault Amazon for dumping them!

It's hard to fault them here, yeah. But we have to be careful so that in 10 years if Amazon refuses to do business with companies who dislike Jeff Bezos, they have somewhere else to go. Or in other words, so that Amazon can't shut down the country at will.

I don't know why Parler's attorneys quit, but I am guessing Rudy would be happy to represent them in a breach of contract case against Amazon. Although they may not want to hire him.
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red13n
01/11/21 6:26:20 AM
#393:


HeroicCrono posted...
It's hard to fault them here, yeah. But we have to be careful so that in 10 years if Amazon refuses to do business with companies who dislike Jeff Bezos, they have somewhere else to go. Or in other words, so that Amazon can't shut down the country at will.

I don't know why Parler's attorneys quit, but I am guessing Rudy would be happy to represent them in a breach of contract case against Amazon. Although they may not want to hire him.
Sounds an awful lot like you don't like capitalism.

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StartTheMachine
01/11/21 7:41:47 AM
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https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1348558563019427842

This is the most insane thing ever and explains how those no-fly lists were made so quickly. People go to Parler for "free speech" and not to get censored, turns out all of their private information is available just like that.

Assuming this is all true, I can't think of a greater fuck up in internet history. Unreal.

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Reg
01/11/21 7:53:43 AM
#395:


KamikazePotato posted...
This has got to be the best example of 'saying the quiet part out loud' ever, right?
Before clicking it I was like "no way this tops 'He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting'" but uhhhhhhh
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Inviso
01/11/21 8:11:23 AM
#396:


red sox 777 posted...
The situation isn't really the same as with the bakeries. It would be more like if there were a handful of bakery companies that made 99% of cakes in the country, and all of them refused to make cakes for a certain class of people. Or, I suppose, if there were a great many bakeries, and again bakeries with market share adding up to 99% refused to bake cakes for certain people.

When a company or a group of companies form a monopoly/duopoly, they have a much greater impact. An extreme example would be the East India Company, which was effectively the government of India and had a legal monopoly. The South Seas Company was granted a similar monopoly for trade with South America, except that in their case it was useless because there was no trade.

I think what I'm getting out of this is that large corporations in the US are too powerful and they should be broken up. Some of you will favor regulation but I don't think that will ever really work, and is a pathway to even more danger, if the regulator is the one screwing things up. The best way is aggressive use of the anti-trust law to break up corporations with excessively high market share.

"It's okay to discriminate, so long as you're small enough to avoid negative attention for it."

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Peace___Frog
01/11/21 8:31:39 AM
#397:


StartTheMachine posted...
https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1348558563019427842

This is the most insane thing ever and explains how those no-fly lists were made so quickly. People go to Parler for "free speech" and not to get censored, turns out all of their private information is available just like that.

Assuming this is all true, I can't think of a greater fuck up in internet history. Unreal.
Amazing

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masterplum
01/11/21 9:44:24 AM
#398:


The video of the guy shouting he was being treated like a black person is one of the most amazingly terrible things I have ever seen

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neonreaper
01/11/21 10:32:22 AM
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https://www.boston.com/news/local-news-2/2021/01/10/therese-duke-umass-memorial-capitol-siege


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xp1337
01/11/21 10:47:50 AM
#400:


LapisLazuli posted...
Without Twitter and Golf, literally what else does Trump even have in his life?
when the PGA is holding him to account more than the GOP

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xp1337
01/11/21 11:08:29 AM
#401:


https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1348605929143623681

Biden named his pick for CIA Director. A career diplomat from the State Department who led the US in talks with Iran. Would be the first leader in the CIA's history whose lifelong experience is from State.

I... think this is a positive? I mean, I wish I could go back to a very simpler time when I dumb and naive enough to think this would be a bigger deal than I actually do today but putting a diplomat in charge of CIA is... probably better?

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htaeD
01/11/21 11:10:51 AM
#402:


A lot of references to that night lately.
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