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Abiz_ 01/10/21 3:18:42 AM #52: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
I fear something else will inevitably emerge in its place.They will all probably just jump to minds or another twitter alternative. Idea that you are going to squash this by shutting them down won't work. You actually have to talk to these people and prove them wrong in a way that isn't going to cause them to close up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 01/10/21 3:20:48 AM #53: |
cue the world's smallest violin
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ScazarMeltex 01/10/21 3:27:14 AM #54: |
Abiz_ posted...
They will all probably just jump to minds or another twitter alternative. Idea that you are going to squash this by shutting them down won't work. You actually have to talk to these people and prove them wrong in a way that isn't going to cause them to close up.No. I don't. It's not my responsibility to make them better people. That is their responsibility. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 01/10/21 3:29:39 AM #55: |
The point is to keep others from being radicalized by deplatforming those already too far gone.
Only reason I can see to keep an app like that around is to keep tabs on potential terrorists. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 01/10/21 3:29:50 AM #56: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
Then we will truly have this country living in different worlds with different facts. Then what? Do tech giants in silicon valley block right wing social media apps on their devices in perpetuity?If they keep threatening fucking terrorism, yes. The political leanings are irrelevant, the violence is what keeps getting them shut down. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackJackCat 01/10/21 3:30:54 AM #57: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
I fear something else will inevitably emerge in its place. Parler will probably always be small compared to more mainstream services. First off, Parler is just a circle jerk, and if there is anything Trumpies need, is a place to project, and telling people who already more or less agree with you the same bullshit over and over isn't really growing the movement. It's just a safe space, and while the shit they spew there is disgusting, the fact that it's not a real platform of influence, and that it is just a safe space shows how irrelevant they are. Secondly, Parler asks for a lot of private information, and while I'm sure people will willingly give that information up, in the grand scheme of things your average individual won't. Convenience almost always overrides in this situation. I'm not saying Parler won't get a big number of people, but it'll probably be a fraction compared to Twitter, and I imagine there will still be a lot of shitheads that use Twitter to project, troll, or play the victim while keeping their more vile bullshit in a place that won't scrutinize. --- This issues still comes to mind now and then Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 01/10/21 3:33:12 AM #58: |
Abiz_ posted...
have a moderator come in and say lock them upYes, I said that. What would you propose? Just letting them all go back to their hate filled lives? They attempted to overthrow the government, and people died. I firmly believe they should be brought to justice. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abiz_ 01/10/21 3:34:08 AM #59: |
powerman1426 posted...
Yes, I said that. What would you propose?I would propose you do your job and don't let people support violence. You excluded that part though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 01/10/21 3:35:49 AM #60: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
No. I don't. It's not my responsibility to make them better people. That is their responsibility. I'm not saying it is your job, but at the end of the day, they aren't going anywhere. And unless you're in favor of inevitable blood letting you should be in favor of a dialog that involves both sides. Even if it's a messy shit show like Twitter. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 01/10/21 3:35:54 AM #61: |
Abiz_ posted...
I'm pointing out you guys are just as sick as themOh shut the fuck up. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 01/10/21 3:38:08 AM #62: |
Abiz_ posted...
They will all probably just jump to minds or another twitter alternative. Idea that you are going to squash this by shutting them down won't work. You actually have to talk to these people and prove them wrong in a way that isn't going to cause them to close up. The problem here is they don't want to hear anything else, so talking to them is completely pointless. All they want to hear is what their cult leader tells them. Everything else is in one ear and out the other. --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 01/10/21 3:41:11 AM #63: |
DrizztLink posted...
If they keep threatening fucking terrorism, yes. You have to always keep asking the question of "then what" Unless you think these people's values only go so far as to what phone they own. How long till either caves, and allows it because it's inevitable, and they might as well capitalize? If neither of them give, how long till someone fills the void of demand and offers devices that will? And yes before you say it, I know I'm getting way ahead of myself. But these are important things to contemplate --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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powerman1426 01/10/21 3:44:10 AM #64: |
Abiz_ posted...
I would propose you do your job and don't let people support violence. You excluded that part though.I didn't in fact. You are referring to another users stomp out comment? It doesn't inherently mean murder. Stomp out oppression is a phrase, and I don't know how you would murder oppression as it isn't alive to begin with. I have no sympathy for these insurrectionists who have ruined their futures. They are being located and arrested as they should be. That was my statement on it, nothing more. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackJackCat 01/10/21 3:46:52 AM #65: |
People have been trying to talk to these radicals since a black man got into the White House, and this is the end result of those efforts. At a certain point you just have to admit that these people are still so assmad about that that they let a fat orange fuck pull their strings into trying to violate democracy.
There is no talking to these people anymore. They need professional deradicalization, and you can't do that if they're constantly living in a sea of misinformation. Just like you can't get drug addict off of drugs when their neighbors on both sides are dealers, you can't ween these people off of bullshit until you cut them off, and that necessarily could involve locking them up and giving them professional help. --- This issues still comes to mind now and then Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 01/10/21 3:57:57 AM #66: |
I'm sure they'll recover and do better than ever. Censorship doesn't sell.
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CosmicShadows 01/10/21 4:01:30 AM #67: |
What the f*** is it?
Never heard of it until all this media attention it got. --- Your human level has changed to GOD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackJackCat 01/10/21 4:08:23 AM #68: |
CosmicShadows posted...
What the f*** is it? Alt-right Twitter basically. --- This issues still comes to mind now and then Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amy Chao 01/10/21 4:08:28 AM #69: |
Good. I'm glad a hate sir that elicits violence has been deplatformed
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DrizztLink 01/10/21 4:19:27 AM #70: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
You have to always keep asking the question of "then what"Then they either learn, go to jail, or die. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiggy101011 01/10/21 4:29:13 AM #71: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
Squashing parler doesn't make these people magically disappear. I fear something else will inevitably emerge in its place. Fearing the unknown shouldn't mean you become complacent with what is currently happening. --- XBL: F1RE v2 PSN: F1REx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 01/10/21 4:30:14 AM #72: |
BlackJackCat posted...
Alt-right Twitter basically. So this is why the Quartering kept recommending it... --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 01/10/21 4:36:37 AM #73: |
"tHiS wIlL oNlY eMbOlDeN tHeM!"
And letting them have their way doesn't? You think "Just ignore them" works? Worked real fucking well with the Nazis didn't it? Showing them they aren't welcome does more good than harm. No, they're not going to magically vanish. It will, however, be significantly harder for them fuck things up when they can't do it in open society. These people came out of hiding when we got a president that decided to "Just hear them out". Even during Obama's time, these people didn't dare attack the capitol. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19: Donald Trump has been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BassForever 01/10/21 4:38:40 AM #74: |
Good, we've seen time and time again that deplatforming these facists/racists dirtbags works. Obviously they'll always find somewhere, probably on the dark web, to chat, but considering most people struggled to sideload the parler app the other day any dark web replacement will get 1/10th of the traffic.
There is also no discussion here, the only people who would oppose this are secretly facist/racist themselves and smart/ashamed enough to not admit it, or worse they're facist/racist sympathizers who either deny the threat they pose or think they can "talk them out of it", which is just plausible deniability fertilizer for these degenerates. --- From: CJayC | Posted: 6/3/2003 | GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 01/10/21 4:46:27 AM #75: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Oh shut the fuck up.He's not far off Lot of the shit I hear here and on Twitter sound JUST like maga people but with a few different words --- Common sense is a fudge round - some dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 01/10/21 4:49:48 AM #76: |
https://twitter.com/Dr__Levi/status/1347821299377303560
Deplatforming them does work. Every time they're forced to go somewhere else and reestablish, they lose people. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 01/10/21 4:53:25 AM #77: |
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/9/22221730/apple-removes-suspends-bans-parler-app-store?
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Solid Snake07 01/10/21 5:09:14 AM #78: |
Jiggy101011 posted...
Fearing the unknown shouldn't mean you become complacent with what is currently happening. I'm not promoting complacency. To the contrary I think we all need to think of these things now more than ever. You can't just think "we've shut down parler, guess that's the end of that" That's just silly shit. Honestly I'm really just rambling that we may be reaching the point of division that won't be reversible without violence on a mass scale --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 01/10/21 5:10:14 AM #79: |
What is Parler and why is it something that people are talking about all of a sudden?
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Solid Snake07 01/10/21 5:10:35 AM #80: |
scar the 1 posted...
https://twitter.com/Dr__Levi/status/1347821299377303560 We're talking about a lot more than a sub reddit here --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 01/10/21 5:11:23 AM #81: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
I'm not promoting complacency. To the contrary I think we all need to think of these things now more than ever.I think we're already there. These people on those divided lines hate each other and won't try to come together in anything. They don't even want to hear it It's just a matter of time before crazy shit happens --- Common sense is a fudge round - some dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 01/10/21 5:35:09 AM #82: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
We're talking about a lot more than a sub reddit hereAnd I agree with the tweet that is saying that it applies to Facebook and Twitter (and all platforms) as well. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amy Chao 01/10/21 5:36:38 AM #83: |
Ban it all. Parler already is planning to attack amazon...
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Lathissamus 01/10/21 7:10:40 AM #84: |
"We only want to see posts that agree with us" - Leftists
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Crepes 01/10/21 7:17:02 AM #85: |
Smackems posted...
This is going to further radicalize them. Again, shit like this is going to fuel them true but it reduces them spreading their lies and getting other people on board. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 01/10/21 7:20:08 AM #86: |
Lathissamus posted...
"We only want to see posts that agree with us" - Leftists"We want to be able to incite violence, plan acts of terrorism, and be racist with no repercussions because we preach to others about personal responsibility that we don't actually want for ourselves." - Far right --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 01/10/21 7:22:44 AM #87: |
Lathissamus posted...
"We only want to see posts that agree with us" - Leftists Parler was not moderating its content and allowing wild domestic terror threats to run completely rampant and organise. You know, as a righty I'm sure you'd agree that a private company can deny service for whatever reason, and that denying service because of domestic terror threats is pretty reasonable all things considered, right? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Akagami_Shanks 01/10/21 7:24:38 AM #88: |
pinky0926 posted...
Parler was not moderating its content and allowing wild domestic terror threats to run completely rampant and organise.its only reasonable when its happening to leftists* guarantee if Trump were a democrat, the right would be cheering at his removal --- PSN: TYruler50 XBL: TYruler50, Switch: 4538-0715-0699, Battle.net: TYmaster50#1751, Steam: TYmaster50, 3DS FC: 4184-8546-7267, Wii U: Tymaster7601 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lathissamus 01/10/21 7:25:40 AM #89: |
pinky0926 posted...
Parler was not moderating its content and allowing wild domestic terror threats to run completely rampant and organise.You don't understand regulation do you? CableZL posted... "We want to be able to incite violence, plan acts of terrorism, and be racist with no repercussions because we preach to others about personal responsibility that we don't actually want for ourselves." - Far rightBLM/Antifa did that for months on Twitter, FB, YT... Not a peep from you or the other usual suspects. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frolex 01/10/21 7:26:41 AM #90: |
Solid Snake07 posted...
We're talking about a lot more than a sub reddit here Name one instance of a political pundit gaining more media influence after they were forced onto alternative social media sites --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 01/10/21 7:27:19 AM #91: |
Lathissamus posted...
BLM/Antifa did that for months on Twitter, FB, YT... Not a peep from you or the other usual suspects So how come you right wingers are stooping down to the level of all us dirty, no good, evil Antifa/BLM supporting liberals? Thought y'all were supposed to be better than that. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lathissamus 01/10/21 7:28:00 AM #92: |
Southernfatman posted...
So how come you right wingers are stopping down to the level of all us dirty, no good, evil Antics/BLM supporting liberals? Thought y'all were supposed to be better than that.They didn't do anything like BLM/Antifa did... Why are you lying? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 01/10/21 7:37:41 AM #93: |
Lathissamus posted...
They didn't do anything like BLM/Antifa did... Why are you lying?You're right, they did things much worse. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 01/10/21 7:43:08 AM #95: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
You're right, they did things much worse. Yeah, they stormed barricades, hit cops, bludgeoned one to death as they stormed the Capitol building. BLM protestors wouldn't have even gotten that close. They would have been tasting mace, hit with rubber bullets and hundreds would have been arrested that day. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 01/10/21 7:43:33 AM #96: |
Lathissamus posted...
They attacked innocent civilians and destroyed private businesses? They took over large blocks of a city and ruined people's lives? No, they marched on a building that we all pay for and the only people that got hurt were the protestors... stop lying please, it's pathetic. Fuck off --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hutton 01/10/21 7:43:43 AM #97: |
I love watching conservatives argue against free market capitalism
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Lathissamus 01/10/21 7:44:54 AM #98: |
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Dark_SilverX 01/10/21 7:45:43 AM #99: |
Amy Chao posted...
Ban it all. Parler already is planning to attack amazon... --- Rather a Zoom Thanksgiving than an ICU Christmas. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 01/10/21 7:48:29 AM #100: |
Lathissamus posted...
the only people that got hurt were the protestors... stop lying please, it's pathetic.One cop died and 50 more were injured. Heed your own advice: stop lying and stop defending terrorists. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 01/10/21 7:49:32 AM #101: |
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Jabodie 01/10/21 7:55:00 AM #102: |
Never forget the seventh Commandment: Thou shalt not forget that the other side is just as bad, if not worse. Amen, and awomen.
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