Current Events > Calling anyone who resists the government a terrorist doesn't sit well

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Colorahdo
01/12/21 9:27:52 AM
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with me

Certainly some of the yokels had intentions of terrorism but calling Karen who broke a window a terrorist is stretching it a little.

Why play the same game the government plays? Labeling anyone who ever gave bin Laden a taxi ride a terrorist sympathizer. It's reductionism

Idk I'm probably wrong


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SevenTenths
01/12/21 9:29:22 AM
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Why on earth did you think this was a good topic to make?

Attacking the capital is terrorism. Stop it.

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Dark_SilverX
01/12/21 9:29:48 AM
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MAGA bad

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The_Creep_2020
01/12/21 9:29:58 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Well the side calling Trumpers terrorist, also speak out against calling Antifa protesters terrorist. So I think the distinct has been made.
I think youre distincting up the joint. Get outta here!

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Were_Wyrm
01/12/21 9:30:59 AM
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Colorahdo posted...
Idk I'm probably wrong
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LightHawKnight
01/12/21 9:31:08 AM
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SevenTenths posted...
Why on earth did you think this was a good topic to make?

Attacking the capital is terrorism. Stop it.


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SolidShadow3
01/12/21 9:31:47 AM
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Good luck with this topic TC, I don't expect it to go well.

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sondast
01/12/21 9:32:05 AM
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When you have 1 nazi sitting at a table and the other 10 people agree with him, then you have 11 nazis at a table.

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SauI_Goodman
01/12/21 9:32:37 AM
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Protesting and rioting can be two different things. Not everyone at the riot was a terrorist.

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Shadow Don
01/12/21 9:33:44 AM
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Colorahdo posted...
I'm probably wrong


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SergeantGander
01/12/21 9:36:32 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Protesting and rioting can be two different things. Not everyone at the riot was a terrorist.

This.

The problem is thanks to recent polarization, there is a lot of painting with a broad brushes.
Somehow:
Every Capitol protester = terrorist

Every BLM protester = looter

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The_Office_pwnz
01/12/21 9:37:01 AM
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of course tc doesnt like it. Youre a terror sympathizer who was screaming stop the voyte a few weeks ago

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JE19426
01/12/21 9:37:41 AM
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Who is being called a terrorist just for "resisting the government"?
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Ving_Rhames
01/12/21 9:37:45 AM
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The_Office_pwnz posted...
of course tc doesnt like it. Youre a terror sympathizer who was screaming stop the voyte a few weeks ago

Oh.
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LightHawKnight
01/12/21 9:38:16 AM
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SergeantGander posted...
This.

The problem is thanks to recent polarization, there is a lot of painting with a broad brushes.
Somehow:
Every Capitol protester = terrorist

Every BLM protester = looter

If you force your way into the capitol building, you are a terrorist.

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--Zero-
01/12/21 9:38:52 AM
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It was a federal building. How hard is that to understand the importance of that building and what was happening inside of it? People were killed. It was terrorism.

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MaddenDude--
01/12/21 9:39:30 AM
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Maybe TC should stop being a terrorist sympathizer.

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Error1355
01/12/21 9:40:11 AM
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Trying to break into the Capital building to prevent the government from functioning is pretty much the definition of terrorism.

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Antifar
01/12/21 9:41:14 AM
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No, you're right, TC. The solution to the obvious and racialized problems of how the term "terrorist" was not to call more white people terrorists, or to push for more laws specific to "domestic terrorism". The state has no problem doing that; we saw all summer Trump using that term to describe people in the George Floyd protests.

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Hippocrates
01/12/21 9:41:45 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Well the side calling Trumpers terrorist, also speak out against calling Antifa protesters terrorist. So I think the distinction has been made.
No, everything tangentially related is exactly the same

what is context, anyway
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Veggeta X
01/12/21 9:42:09 AM
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SergeantGander
01/12/21 9:42:10 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
If you force your way into the capitol building, you are a terrorist.

Oof. Sure.

Now go back and rewatch video coverage from that day. Study it hard. When you're finished, come back and answer this question:

Did every single protester enter the capitol building?

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K181
01/12/21 9:42:26 AM
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Trumpers committed an act of mass violence to try to prevent the certification of a duly elected incoming president.

That's basically the definition of terrorism.

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Aki_Sora
01/12/21 9:57:29 AM
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It terrorist no matter how you want to twist it.
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Ving_Rhames
01/12/21 10:02:44 AM
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SergeantGander posted...
Oof. Sure.

Now go back and rewatch video coverage from that day. Study it hard. When you're finished, come back and answer this question:

Did every single protester enter the capitol building?

Did you just....not read the post you quoted or something? >_>

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CableZL
01/12/21 10:07:07 AM
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terrorism
noun

  1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


They broke into the capitol (unlawful), fought against police officers and killed one of them (use of violence and intimidation), wanted to harm the speaker of the house and the vice president (especially against civilians), because they wanted to overturn the election (pursuit of political aims).

They're terrorists.

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Colorahdo
01/12/21 10:16:51 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Oh.
/topic list

Lol I'm a socialist

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E32005
01/12/21 10:18:41 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Trying to break into the Capital building to prevent the government from functioning is pretty much the definition of terrorism.


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Hexenherz
01/12/21 10:19:47 AM
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Don't really know what else you can call it. The election results were certified, only a handful of dipshits were objecting to their tallying, the illegitimate lawsuits were tossed out in court weeks ago.

There's no reason to oppose this unless you're trying to disenfranchise future voters and attack Congress for doing its job.

That's basically terrorism.

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MrMallard
01/12/21 10:20:04 AM
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You're right. Denoting protestors as terrorists would be a step too far, simply vocalising one's dissatisfaction with the government is a valid form of protest and labelling a protest group who's critical of the government as "terrorists" sets a dangerous precedent that enables state-sanctioned violence against the citizens of a country.

However, these protestors overwhelmed the security of a building that is the heart of your country's democracy while state senators and the President-Elect were in attendance. They walked in with guns and zipties, they broke down doors and broke windows and stole mail. They stormed that building with the intent of subverting democracy, at the heed of a man who lost an election.

What they did is an example of domestic terrorism, and they are terrorists. Every motherfucker who marched on Capitol Hill and broke through security is a terrorist.

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The_Office_pwnz
01/12/21 10:24:38 AM
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Of course you are. So not just a terror sympathizer but also a liar.

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SergeantGander
01/12/21 10:29:44 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Did you just....not read the post you quoted or something? >_>

Lol maybe not...

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PoundGarden
01/12/21 10:32:47 AM
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Colorahdo posted...
Idk I'm probably wrong


You are

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Ving_Rhames
01/12/21 10:34:56 AM
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Colorahdo posted...
Lol I'm a socialist

Eh, to be fair, I said "/topic list" and came back in anyway ROFL so add me to the list of people who gotta hold an L in this thread

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monkmith
01/12/21 10:49:10 AM
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SevenTenths posted...
Why on earth did you think this was a good topic to make?

Attacking the capital is terrorism. Stop it.


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Jiggy101011
01/12/21 11:02:18 AM
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Breaking a window doesn't make you a terrorist. But breaking a window to get into the CAPITOL building does.

Surely you must see the difference right?

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CapnMuffin
01/12/21 11:05:08 AM
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Why are people still trying to politically divide fear, violence and destruction?

If you resort to that, youre being dysfunctional to modern society.
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Hippocrates
01/12/21 11:08:25 AM
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CapnMuffin posted...
Why are people still trying to politically divide fear, violence and destruction?

If you resort to that, youre being dysfunctional to modern society.
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HaVeNII7
01/12/21 11:17:15 AM
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Every single one of them who broke into the Capitol is a terrorist, by definition. The people outside still took part in it. They helped, just by being there, and creating a more oppressively large crowd.

The only people, and I mean the ONLY people who I wouldnt consider to be a terrorist, are the people who, upon realizing what was starting, IMMEDIATELY said Fuck this. and left.

Im going to guess that the number of people who did that was pretty small, though.

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ButteryMales
01/12/21 11:20:20 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Trying to break into the Capital building to prevent the government from functioning is pretty much the definition of terrorism.
Why the hell is the terrorist sympathizer un-modded?
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Colorahdo
01/12/21 11:20:26 AM
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Conflict posted...
You make quite a lot of dumb topics TC

I'm just not afraid to be wrong I guess

Ce has really become this place where everyone is perfect in the past few years

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DravenRainrix
01/12/21 11:26:36 AM
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Terrorist is someone who tries to get their own way using acts of violence and terror.

The rioters tried to get their own way using acts of violence and terror.


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Crescente
01/12/21 11:36:37 AM
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The problem is that these people didn't really have a good reason to do all of this. Was it because they thought the election was rigged or something? If BLM did this last year, people would just call it fighting for justice and all that. You just need to fight for a good reason and be on the 'right' side and the word 'terrorist' wouldn't exist.
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Tmaster148
01/12/21 11:37:39 AM
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There's nothing wrong with calling terrorists terrorists.

Stop downplaying their actions.

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averagejoel
01/12/21 11:44:34 AM
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Antifar posted...
No, you're right, TC. The solution to the obvious and racialized problems of how the term "terrorist" was not to call more white people terrorists, or to push for more laws specific to "domestic terrorism". The state has no problem doing that; we saw all summer Trump using that term to describe people in the George Floyd protests.
yeah it's one of those buzzwords that's actually a neutral term, but it gets used as though it's an inherently negative thing.

it's a lot like "criminal" in that sense.

like, yes, these specific people were terrorists, but that isn't why what they were doing was wrong

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ColZach
01/12/21 11:45:26 AM
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Theyre terrorists because they had bombs, and were planning on killing/holding members of Congress hostage.

fucking idiots. Theyre TERRORISTS. They attacked the capitol with BOMBS.
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Bio1590
01/12/21 11:47:56 AM
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I feel like referring to what they did as simply "resist[ing] the government" really, really downplays what actually happened.
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