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Beveren_Rabbit
01/13/21 1:57:26 PM
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do you suspect people that dislike something about The Last Of Us 2 to be a little racist/transphobic?
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bnui_ransder
01/13/21 1:57:52 PM
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I just don't like the game itself for spoiler reasons

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Beemo_Season11
01/13/21 1:58:29 PM
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It seems that way to that crowd
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g0ldie
01/13/21 1:59:26 PM
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no.

there are people that dislike it for those reasons, though.

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Doom_Art
01/13/21 1:59:37 PM
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no but lamenting the fact that the main characters aren't feminine or attractive enough does

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Kisai
01/13/21 1:59:54 PM
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I had no interest in it primarily because the ending to the first game sucked.

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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/13/21 2:00:10 PM
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You can dislike it for reasons unrelated to being a massive incel.

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EbonTitanium
01/13/21 2:00:19 PM
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No.

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DravenRainrix
01/13/21 2:00:20 PM
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Depends why you're critical.

"I hate the gameplay of TLOU2, it's so sparse and so dull"
Is fine,
"I hate tlou2 cause there's a trans character in it"
Not fine.

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Veggeta X
01/13/21 2:00:43 PM
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Naw you can fairly criticize the game but you won't see much of that. The crusades people had against the game speaks volume.

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creativerealms
01/13/21 2:03:57 PM
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Depends on what you criticize. The story is worth criticizing after all. And that is not racist or anti LGBT. That is just disliking a pretentious story because it's bad.

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Smackems
01/13/21 2:05:17 PM
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Absolutely

There's ZERO chance anyone could dislike it for any other reason than BIGOTRY

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Prestoff
01/13/21 2:07:35 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Depends on what you criticize. The story is worth criticizing after all. And that is not racist or anti LGBT. That is just disliking a pretentious story because it's bad.

This, or just not a fan of the direction the story is going for. There are people who are literally pissed off that you can't shoot the star of david in TLOU2.

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SteveNasti
01/13/21 2:10:06 PM
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g0ldie posted...
no.

there are a metric shit ton of people that dislike it for those reasons, though.
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FL81
01/13/21 2:12:18 PM
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I honestly just don't like the zombie genre

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Kisai
01/13/21 2:13:50 PM
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DravenRainrix posted...
"I hate tlou2 cause there's a trans character in it"
Pretty sure most people complaining about a "trans character" aren't complaining about the actual trans character, but Abby.

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IloveJesus
01/13/21 2:16:44 PM
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SteveNasti posted...
Fix'd

Completely agree.

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Vicious_Dios
01/13/21 2:17:26 PM
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We criticize it because it sucks for a myriad of reasons.

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Zombified_Toast
01/13/21 2:19:31 PM
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I think Lev is probably one of the stronger characters in LoU2. The game definitely has story problems that reach beyond transphobia.

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TheOtherMike
01/13/21 2:19:53 PM
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No, criticizing TLoU2 doesn't automatically make someone anti-LGBT. Complaining about lesbians, muscles, "the gay agenda," and trans characters does.
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Shablagoo
01/13/21 2:20:34 PM
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Theres a high correlation but there are also plenty of people with legitimate criticisms. The storys structure, for example, was pretty disjointed.

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CommonGrackle
01/13/21 2:22:23 PM
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personally I don't understand the idea of hyping up someone's sexuality in a setting where humanity is overrun by zombies of some sort.

but I don't play the games nor do I intend to.
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Funkydog
01/13/21 2:23:08 PM
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Depends on your reason for disliking it.

If you dislike lgbt people are in it then yes, you are a lgbtphobe.

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NinjaWarrior455
01/13/21 2:26:15 PM
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Kisai posted...
Pretty sure most people complaining about a "trans character" aren't complaining about the actual trans character, but Abby.
A lot of that hate though stemmed from Abby being masculine in appearance or because they perceived her to be trans. Just because she isn't trans doesn't mean supposed criticisms about her for those reasons are legitimate.

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SteveNasti
01/13/21 2:27:37 PM
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CommonGrackle posted...
personally I don't understand the idea of hyping up someone's sexuality in a setting where humanity is overrun by zombies of some sort.

but I don't play the games nor do I intend to.
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Kisai
01/13/21 2:28:22 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
they perceived her to be trans
Pretty sure they didn't even perceive that. Most people calling Abby trans are basically making a thinly veiled insult about her appearance.

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fan357
01/13/21 2:35:25 PM
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Kisai posted...
Pretty sure they didn't even perceive that. Most people calling Abby trans are basically making a thinly veiled insult about her appearance.

Before the game came out a lot of people assumed Abby was trans.

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g0ldie
01/13/21 2:38:23 PM
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before TLoU2 came out, I thought that Abby was Ellie, and that Ellie had spent some years getting brolic.

from the 2018 E3 trailer, I think.

edit: nevermind, from this one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTjZGlp0OQc

fan357 posted...
Before the game came out a lot of people assumed Abby was trans.
from some fake links, iirc.

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DeadBankerDream
01/13/21 2:39:09 PM
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If you have to ask the answer is yes. If not, the answer is no.
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SSJ2GrimReaper
01/13/21 2:39:26 PM
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SteveNasti
01/13/21 2:40:49 PM
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
Seems pretty straight to me

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fan357
01/13/21 2:44:06 PM
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I dont understand why people post that screenshot of Abby getting fucked by whats his face. Shes just getting banged from behind.

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SteveNasti
01/13/21 2:45:56 PM
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fan357 posted...
I dont understand why people post that screenshot of Abby getting fucked by whats his face. Shes just getting banged from behind.
It's mind blowing, it's the first time a 10 second sex scene was shown in a video game before.

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CommonGrackle
01/13/21 2:49:37 PM
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what about Custer's Revenge?
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Irony
01/13/21 2:57:36 PM
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On ResetEra liking it makes you that

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hockeybub89
01/13/21 2:59:47 PM
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Still trying to figure out what is overly "SJW" about it

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Kisai
01/13/21 3:00:08 PM
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fan357 posted...
Before the game came out a lot of people assumed Abby was trans.
Not sincerely, though. They were just saying it because for them, her having muscles means she looks masculine, and that makes her trans. They were just being assholes and trying to say she was trans as an insult.

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Veggeta X
01/13/21 3:14:24 PM
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Kisai posted...
Not sincerely, though. They were just saying it because for them, her having muscles means she looks masculine, and that makes her trans. They were just being assholes and trying to say she was trans as an insult.
This is why you can't take the haters seriously.

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creativerealms
01/13/21 4:14:44 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Still trying to figure out what is overly "SJW" about it
Honestly the game is pretty anti-SJW. I dislike the game because it's nihilistic that isn't a word.I think of when I think SJW. The theme of this game seems to be that if sociaty were to colapse everyone would be terrible.

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Letron_James
01/13/21 4:16:13 PM
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I never liked the first one so not for me lol

I always felt like it was boring, and I hated the cover/shooting mechanics a lot

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TheOtherMike
01/13/21 4:25:03 PM
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CommonGrackle posted...
personally I don't understand the idea of hyping up someone's sexuality in a setting where humanity is overrun by zombies of some sort.

but I don't play the games nor do I intend to.

Too bad you have no interest in playing them. If you actually had, you'd know that no one "hyped up" anyone's sexuality.
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vigorm0rtis
01/13/21 4:26:36 PM
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Depends on the nature of the criticism.

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jon1012
01/14/21 6:15:25 PM
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I loved it.

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