Current Events > Prosecutors seek to modify Kyle Rittenhouse's bond agreement after racist signs

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E32005
01/14/21 1:19:59 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/kyle-rittenhouse-bond-agreement-drinking-racist-signs/index.html

ccording to prosecutors, Rittenhouse was seen at a local bar with his mother about 90 minutes after the arraignment, and his presence and behavior were confirmed by surveillance video.
Rittenhouse was seen with other individuals flashing "the 'OK' sign, which has been co-opted as a sign of 'white power' by known white supremacist groups," and was "directly served a beer by the bartender," the motion said.

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littlebro07
01/14/21 1:21:32 PM
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If White Trash was a family, itd be the Rittenhouse family.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
01/14/21 1:23:18 PM
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Ehhh, thats a little iffy. Dude should be locked up for life, but an OK sign isnt that great a justification.

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Justanotherlark
01/14/21 1:24:24 PM
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like how lonely do you have to be to make this topic?

anyone wanna guess?
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CADE FOSTER
01/14/21 1:24:28 PM
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Its the white supremacist bullshit new sign
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harley2280
01/14/21 1:25:17 PM
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E32005 posted...
directly served a beer by the bartender


Maybe I'm wrong because I haven't followed this too closely, but I thought he was a minor.
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CanCanSam
01/14/21 1:26:22 PM
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The world wanted Rick Moranis back.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Questionmarktarius
01/14/21 1:29:04 PM
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The document also states that Rittenhouse turned 18 this month and lives in Illinois. "Under Illinois law, it is a Class A Misdemeanor for anyone under the age of 21 to possess or consume alcohol in a public place," the motion states.
In Wisconsin, however, it is legal for someone under the age of 21 to possess and consume alcohol if a parent is present.

So... what's the problem, if he's drinking with his mom in Wisconsin?
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Heavy_D_Forever
01/14/21 1:30:06 PM
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harley2280 posted...
Maybe I'm wrong because I haven't followed this too closely, but I thought he was a minor.
In Wisconsin it's legal for minors to drink in a bar if they are accompanied by a parent or guardian who's 21 or older. I don't believe the bartender is allowed to serve him directly though, the parent has to be the one ordering the drinks.

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Justanotherlark
01/14/21 1:30:37 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
So... what's the problem, if he's drinking with his mom in Wisconsin?

thought there's a strict no drug or alcohol use in bond agreements
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WashYourHands
01/14/21 1:33:36 PM
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E32005
01/14/21 1:34:37 PM
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CanCanSam posted...
The world wanted Rick Moranis back.
Be careful what you wish for.
xD

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NoxObscuras
01/14/21 1:34:40 PM
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This seems kind of dumb. Are they leaving out information or just reaching?

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Questionmarktarius
01/14/21 1:37:51 PM
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Justanotherlark posted...
thought there's a strict no drug or alcohol use in bond agreements
Article strongly implies that the prosecution hasn't established those restrictions yet.
Regardless, there's no point in bringing up Illinois law in the context of something that happened in not-Illinois.
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nemu
01/14/21 1:43:37 PM
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Regardless of guilt or innocence, seems like a petty power play from the opposition. I hate that court cases can be so swayed by pointless shit like that. He's either a murderer or acted in self-defense. Nothing he did there seems to have had anything to do with that, so it should be considered a waste of time to the court unless he does something truly against the conditions set out for him.
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Monolith1676
01/14/21 1:46:07 PM
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WashYourHands posted...

I for one am deeply offended!!

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Tyranthraxus
01/14/21 1:48:37 PM
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CanCanSam posted...


The world wanted Rick Moranis back.
Be careful what you wish for.

Is Rick Moranis dead?

No, but you are. (Click)

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Alteres
01/14/21 1:48:42 PM
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Is modifying bond agreements something that has been done before?

It seems a little strange to change something like this after the fact, no matter how valid the conditions may be.

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gunplagirl
01/15/21 12:59:54 PM
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Alteres posted...
Is modifying bond agreements something that has been done before?

It seems a little strange to change something like this after the fact, no matter how valid the conditions may be.
Yes it's pretty common for people who continue to get into questionable at best situations to get them modified. "You're now also banned from meeting any of your former acquaintances/ you're now on house arrest/ you must take your meds" are more common ones.

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Shadow Don
01/15/21 1:19:46 PM
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The people still pretending that the ok signal isn't a white supremacist signal now are extremely suspect.

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Samurontai
01/15/21 1:22:04 PM
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Shadow Don posted...
The people still pretending that the ok signal isn't a white supremacist signal now are extremely suspect.

I mean, even if it is, all uses of it arent white supremacy uses


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Alteres
01/15/21 1:23:29 PM
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Thanks for the info gunpla, after no one responded I thought about it more and figured that was probably the case.

Just too used to thinking of legal things as something that cant be redone, only appealed etc.

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Eliza3
01/15/21 1:24:03 PM
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Justanotherlark posted...
like how lonely do you have to be to make this topic?

anyone wanna guess?
Another refugee from the MAGA board huh?

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gunplagirl
01/15/21 1:30:43 PM
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Samurontai posted...
I mean, even if it is, all uses of it arent white supremacy uses
Bringing that up in this context, where a killer was flashing it with the paramilitary and group associated with terroristic actions in the capitol building, the proud boys? It's obvious it's not the innocent non racist version based on that context.

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E32005
01/15/21 1:40:18 PM
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Eliza3 posted...
Another refugee from the MAGA board huh?
lots of them lately

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Trumble
01/15/21 1:44:00 PM
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Samurontai posted...
I mean, even if it is, all uses of it arent white supremacy uses

I will definitely agree that it's stupid to assume that's what it is in most cases. It's usually used to actually mean "okay", or the whole "haha you looked now I get a free punch" thing.

But when a known white supremacist, interacting with other known white supremacists, is doing it... it's probably a safe bet that in that case, it's not being used to mean "okay" or "gotcha".

And I am not someone who makes a habit of calling everything I possibly can a "white supremacist" symbol.

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nfearurspecimn
01/15/21 2:00:26 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
It's obvious it's not the innocent non racist version based on that context.
I agree with that, but I still maintain it in and of itself isn't a white supremacy hand sign.

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E32005
01/15/21 2:21:31 PM
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AtelierRyza2462
01/15/21 2:21:44 PM
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Wow, all because of the OK sign, LOL
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Unknown5uspect
01/15/21 2:25:52 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I agree with that, but I still maintain it in and of itself isn't a white supremacy hand sign.
Do you not understand how irrelevant a statement like that is in this topic?

What's the point of talking about it not being a white supremacy hand sign in and of itself when that's exactly what it is here?

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TheLiarParadox
01/15/21 2:39:13 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I agree with that, but I still maintain it in and of itself isn't a white supremacy hand sign.
It hasn't ever been in and of itself any one thing, since it has always had different meanings all over the world. That's why this particular hand sign was chosen by the 4chan dorks in the first place. This worked out incredibly well for the white supremacists using it unironically (who coincidentally overlap greatly with the 4chan dorks) because now, when someone points out actual instances of it being related to white supremacy (like with baby brownshirt and his fascist friends here) they can say "b-b-b-but it means other things!"

Dog whistles and other similar things thrive on a certain level of plausible deniability and every time someone tries to highlight the innocuous meanings in instances like this, where it is quite painfully clear what context they're using it in, they're giving cover to shitbags.

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