Current Events > hot take: "dungeons" in most JRPGs suck

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ssk9716757 02/01/21 10:51:03 AM #1:	they're so bland and depressing and usually have dumb puzzles that slow down the pacing. it's even worse in older JRPGs with random encounters. replace them with interesting towns or more aesthetically-pleasing outdoor locations and it would be an improvement in pretty much 100% of cases. --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:950155202] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>they're so bland and depressing and usually have dumb puzzles that slow down the pacing. it's even worse in older JRPGs with random encounters. replace them with interesting towns or more aesthetically-pleasing outdoor locations and it would be an improvement in pretty much 100% of cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/01/21 10:53:16 AM #2:	tbh is is monumentally difficult to make a JRPG that will hold my interest. 99% of them I can't complete --- https://imgur.com/u5kY6Yt https://imgur.com/V6HBhkR <cite>Doe posted [p:950155260] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>tbh is is monumentally difficult to make a JRPG that will hold my interest. 99% of them I can't complete </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 02/01/21 10:54:32 AM #3:	Yeah outdoor dungeons with the occasional tower or w/e is better. I could go a lifetime without another cave, sewer, or underground labyrinth. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:950155292] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Yeah outdoor dungeons with the occasional tower or w/e is better. I could go a lifetime without another cave, sewer, or underground labyrinth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wesastro911 02/01/21 10:57:31 AM #4:	Dungeons in jrpgs are always my least favorite parts of the games. <cite>wesastro911 posted [p:950155364] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Dungeons in jrpgs are always my least favorite parts of the games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 02/01/21 11:00:49 AM #5:	I agree.I did one last night on Skyrim and holy shit it was agonizing. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:950155457] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>I agree.I did one last night on Skyrim and holy shit it was agonizing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FabIe 02/01/21 11:01:33 AM #6:	Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons. --- The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. <cite>FabIe posted [p:950155477] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 02/01/21 11:27:06 AM #8:	FabIe posted... Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons. Mainly held back by the 47 second long animation for each use of a psynergy --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:950156178] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>FabIe posted... </cite> <quote>Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons.</quote>Mainly held back by the 47 second long animation for each use of a psynergy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/01/21 11:38:25 AM #9:	FabIe posted... Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons. This. Air's Rock can die in a fire though, lol --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:950156522] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>FabIe posted... </cite> <quote>Golden Sun had GOAT dungeons.</quote> This. Air's Rock can die in a fire though, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FabIe 02/01/21 11:48:35 AM #10:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Mainly held back by the 47 second long animation for each use of a psynergy Ok now listen here. . . --- The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. <cite>FabIe posted [p:950156837] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite> <quote>Mainly held back by the 47 second long animation for each use of a psynergy</quote> Ok now listen here. . . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 02/01/21 11:51:12 AM #11:	In the SEEWEERRR --- I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love. https://imgur.com/YTIL81T <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:950156924] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>In the SEEWEERRR </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 02/01/21 12:09:30 PM #12:	FabIe posted... Ok now listen here. . . The space bar solves this issue, but... --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:950157562] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>FabIe posted... </cite> <quote>Ok now listen here. . . </quote>The space bar solves this issue, but... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BignutzisBack 02/01/21 12:13:37 PM #14:	Sewer dungeons always get my engine revving, it's always either a cool secret passage type dungeon or else some wild shit ends up going down --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:950157698] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Sewer dungeons always get my engine revving, it's always either a cool secret passage type dungeon or else some wild shit ends up going down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 02/01/21 12:15:26 PM #15:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fjT3IAaAGo --- Thanks to Proofpyros for the sig images https://imgur.com/Nv4Pi1v https://imgur.com/N43HJYv <cite>FL81 posted [p:950157767] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fjT3IAaAGo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/21 12:17:22 PM #16:	Dear RPG developers: This is not fun. This has never been fun, and will never be fun. Please stop doing that. I just want to murder things and make the numbers bigger, not waste an hour pushing blocks around before asking google (or just going straight to google anyway). <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950157832] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Dear RPG developers: This is not fun. This has never been fun, and will never be fun. Please stop doing that. I just want to murder things and make the numbers bigger, not waste an hour pushing blocks around before asking google (or just going straight to google anyway). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame Zero 02/01/21 12:19:08 PM #18:	As someone with fond memories of JRPGs, I didn't realize until I was much older that I would always have to mentally prepare myself for dungeons. Random battles had the most to do with them being a slog, though. It's not really the turn-based combat that's aged for me, it's the random battles. It's why things like Grandia, Chrono Trigger, and Earthbound hold up better for me today. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:950157885] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>As someone with fond memories of JRPGs, I didn't realize until I was much older that I would always have to mentally prepare myself for dungeons. Random battles had the most to do with them being a slog, though. It's not really the turn-based combat that's aged for me, it's the random battles. It's why things like Grandia, Chrono Trigger, and Earthbound hold up better for me today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KYOJIROKAGENUMA 02/01/21 12:20:32 PM #19:	Whoa now, Dungeons are pretty different, I mean we are talking like FFX Dungeon, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Dungeons? or the Wild Arms Puzzle Dungeon? You have to remember that the older style of random encounters was a way to save on graphical power by choosing to not animate every single monster on screen. Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross Legend of Mana Saga Frontier (a rerelease is coming soon) Man those were the days, graphics were just catching up to illustrate some truly crazy landscapes, and because the monster weren't there you had this weird since of immersion. I mean Parasite Eve at night while you a running through the NYPD station or the Museum is still pretty awesome. Vagrant Story also does dungeons well (but that kinda its thing Sorry Nostalgia... --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak <cite>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted [p:950157924] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Whoa now, Dungeons are pretty different, I mean we are talking like FFX Dungeon, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Dungeons? or the Wild Arms Puzzle Dungeon? You have to remember that the older style of random encounters was a way to save on graphical power by choosing to not animate every single monster on screen. Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross Legend of Mana Saga Frontier (a rerelease is coming soon) Man those were the days, graphics were just catching up to illustrate some truly crazy landscapes, and because the monster weren't there you had this weird since of immersion. I mean Parasite Eve at night while you a running through the NYPD station or the Museum is still pretty awesome. Vagrant Story also does dungeons well (but that kinda its thing Sorry Nostalgia... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/21 12:20:44 PM #20:	Conflict posted... Actually that Crosscode dungeon was very fun I couldn't an image of that one in Lufia that has over 100 steps. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950157933] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Actually that Crosscode dungeon was very fun</quote>I couldn't an image of that one in Lufia that has over 100 steps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MJOLNRVII 02/01/21 12:23:56 PM #22:	I was actually about to post how much I liked Crosscode's temples(even though it isn't a JRPG), but I would never recommend that game to anyone who would have a problem with puzzles in the slightest. Getting back on topic, I remember liking FFX's Mt. Gagazet if that counts as a dungeon. It also has a cave and underwater section, but I prefer the outside snow area. Sewers and Forests are way better than most Caves in JRPG's imo. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/WBp3VHL.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/aGc8opg.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/tQBwJ35.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:950158032] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>I was actually about to post how much I liked Crosscode's temples(even though it isn't a JRPG), but I would never recommend that game to anyone who would have a problem with puzzles in the slightest. Getting back on topic, I remember liking FFX's Mt. Gagazet if that counts as a dungeon. It also has a cave and underwater section, but I prefer the outside snow area. Sewers and Forests are way better than most Caves in JRPG's imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/21 12:25:17 PM #23:	Conflict posted... Crosscode's dungeons are fun because they actually break the monotonous JRPG dungeon mold of just killing a bunch of the same enemies in a cave. They make you think and it's rewarding when you do figure them out. Somewhere, in the main villain's lair: "Sir, they're massacring our guys by the dozens! what do we do?" "Stick a bunch of random crates next to the doors. That'll buy us at least an hour." <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950158078] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Crosscode's dungeons are fun because they actually break the monotonous JRPG dungeon mold of just killing a bunch of the same enemies in a cave. They make you think and it's rewarding when you do figure them out.</quote>Somewhere, in the main villain's lair: "Sir, they're massacring our guys by the dozens! what do we do?" "Stick a bunch of random crates next to the doors. That'll buy us at least an hour." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/01/21 12:42:01 PM #25:	Conflict posted... Also I noticed a lot of Square RPGs had the obligatory 'maze in the forest' Or, you know, the "Maze Mansions" of Octopath. Or, the "maze sewer" of every JRPG ever. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950158566] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Also I noticed a lot of Square RPGs had the obligatory 'maze in the forest'</quote>Or, you know, the "Maze Mansions" of Octopath. Or, the "maze sewer" of every JRPG ever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cymbaline 02/01/21 12:46:48 PM #26:	The Mario RPGs had the best dungeons. --- Please wake me. <cite>cymbaline posted [p:950158720] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>The Mario RPGs had the best dungeons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/01/21 12:47:38 PM #27:	cymbaline posted... The Mario RPGs had the best dungeons. "pearls" There. I saved you from having to ask google. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:950158745] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>cymbaline posted... </cite> <quote>The Mario RPGs had the best dungeons.</quote>"pearls" There. I saved you from having to ask google. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KYOJIROKAGENUMA 02/01/21 12:48:57 PM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... "pearls" There. I saved you from having to ask google. Yo my childhood was on pause for like 2 weeks cause I couldn't figure this out. --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak <cite>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted [p:950158788] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>"pearls" There. I saved you from having to ask google.</quote> Yo my childhood was on pause for like 2 weeks cause I couldn't figure this out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cymbaline 02/01/21 12:51:14 PM #30:	Conflict posted... Only bad part of that dungeon was the 3D maze Don't remind me. --- Please wake me. <cite>cymbaline posted [p:950158870] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Only bad part of that dungeon was the 3D maze</quote>Don't remind me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/01/21 12:51:36 PM #31:	MJOLNRVII posted... Sewers and Forests are way better than most Caves in JRPG's imo. but then there's ToS's Ymir Forest >_> JUST HAVE COLLETTE FLY UP AND GRAB THE FUCKING FRUIT, YOU MORONS --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:950158882] in hot take: ... [t:79271639]...</cite> <quote>MJOLNRVII posted... </cite> <quote>Sewers and Forests are way better than most Caves in JRPG's imo.</quote> but then there's ToS's Ymir Forest >_> JUST HAVE COLLETTE FLY UP AND GRAB THE FUCKING FRUIT, YOU MORONS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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