Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 15: ''Why do we still roll? Just to suffer?''

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LordFarquad1312
02/06/21 11:35:32 PM
#102:


Mainly not gearing up Yukari that much cause I'm focusing on getting Nozomi.

And I meant Miyako, not Mifuyu lol. I got 2 tanks.

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Calwings
02/06/21 11:45:16 PM
#103:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Mainly not gearing up Yukari that much cause I'm focusing on getting Nozomi.

And I meant Miyako, not Mifuyu lol. I got 2 tanks.

Oh okay, that makes a lot more sense.

Those are the same two tanks I used throughout the story, and now I'm saving for Nozomi as well. I took Yukari to 3 stars before then though, because she's just so useful and Miyako was working well enough to get me by until then. You should at least get Yukari to 2 stars if you haven't already.
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Leanaunfurled
02/07/21 10:01:04 AM
#104:


Project Sekai released a full version of their newest original vocaloid song and it's totally heat imo *fans self*

https://youtu.be/ZMbWDpC1N7s

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Tyranthraxus
02/07/21 10:54:27 AM
#105:


Leanaunfurled posted...
Project Sekai released a full version of their newest original vocaloid song and it's totally heat imo *fans self*

https://youtu.be/ZMbWDpC1N7s
That's really good actually

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Galbias
02/07/21 11:50:37 PM
#106:


3 more weeks until what is probably Hu Tao banner in Genshin...zzz. At least I can roll some on the Keqing banner.

also W definitely feels like she's been more helpful than Weedy in Arknights, even on stages that should be good for Weedy (ie the one with the frenzy guys)
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LordFarquad1312
02/08/21 12:01:07 AM
#107:


Galbias posted...
3 more weeks until what is probably Hu Tao banner in Genshin...zzz. At least I can roll some on the Keqing banner.
Whether or not I get Keqing I'm probably gonna stop playing until a major patch comes in.

And if Qiqi pity breaks me I'm uninstalling.

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YugiNoob
02/08/21 12:06:00 AM
#108:


30 runs for 2 blueprints... good ol' PriConne drop rates <_<

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Galbias
02/08/21 1:05:40 AM
#109:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Whether or not I get Keqing I'm probably gonna stop playing until a major patch comes in.

And if Qiqi pity breaks me I'm uninstalling.

I'm still trying to get strong enough to beat the last stages of Abyss, but that's starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel as far as actual content is concerned. Though I'll probably still do events/commissions for rolls for awhile because I probably want to be able to get Ayaka or whoever.
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Funkydog
02/08/21 4:19:59 AM
#110:


YugiNoob posted...
30 runs for 2 blueprints... good ol' PriConne drop rates <_<
And I thought going ten runs for one gold was bad. I think you might be cursed.

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legendarylemur
02/08/21 4:29:43 AM
#111:


Yeah the worst I've had was 10 or a bit more, never 30 runs for a single drop

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YugiNoob
02/08/21 4:35:35 AM
#112:


legendarylemur posted...
Yeah the worst I've had was 10 or a bit more, never 30 runs for a single drop
My worst was 33 for 1, and that was for rank 5 or 6; it wasnt even the gold ones <_<

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legendarylemur
02/08/21 6:08:55 AM
#113:


Holy Angela Balzac, I just hit the jackpot on GT. I mean it did take a total 130 rolls lol but still, win's a win. Got both Gabriel and her weapon back to back. God I was this close to using my tickets, and I also got to flush an extremely backed up amount of points. I needed 12 3* units total, and I had 11, with Gabriel originally planned to be my 12th from 2 weeks ago. Well 2 weeks later that plan has finally come to fruition.

Happy, but that was stressful knowing I blew all my saved gems and would potentially not get any component of her. Got spooked along the way with a 5* dupe too

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Tyranthraxus
02/08/21 7:42:52 AM
#114:


legendarylemur posted...
Holy Angela Balzac, I just hit the jackpot on GT. I mean it did take a total 130 rolls lol but still, win's a win. Got both Gabriel and her weapon back to back. God I was this close to using my tickets, and I also got to flush an extremely backed up amount of points. I needed 12 3* units total, and I had 11, with Gabriel originally planned to be my 12th from 2 weeks ago. Well 2 weeks later that plan has finally come to fruition.

Happy, but that was stressful knowing I blew all my saved gems and would potentially not get any component of her. Got spooked along the way with a 5* dupe too
Gabriel is really freaking good. A lot of people complaining that she's not as good at healing as Miya but she's still got some pretty good heals and her DPS is way better than Miya.

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The Catgirl Fondler
02/08/21 8:11:11 AM
#115:


YugiNoob posted...
30 runs for 2 blueprints... good ol' PriConne drop rates <_<


I'm starting to wonder if stages have different drop rates depending on the rank of gear relative to the difficulty of the stage (so the first stage anything becomes available is the hardest place to farm it), or if the number of overall possible drops results in a bloated pool (made possibly worse when skipping because Bond items and extra XP potions get tossed in there).
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Calwings
02/08/21 10:22:59 AM
#116:


https://twitter.com/starlightrelive/status/1358743147317129226

IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING (realistically speaking there's still a decent chance that this might not come to the global version but still) IT'S HAPPENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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ShadowElite86
02/08/21 10:42:16 AM
#117:


Calwings posted...
https://twitter.com/starlightrelive/status/1358743147317129226

IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING (realistically speaking there's still a decent chance that this might not come to the global version but still) IT'S HAPPENIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
Very cool. I'll probably redownload the global version if it ever comes over.

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Leanaunfurled
02/08/21 12:19:45 PM
#118:


The Catgirl Fondler posted...
I'm starting to wonder if stages have different drop rates depending on the rank of gear relative to the difficulty of the stage (so the first stage anything becomes available is the hardest place to farm it), or if the number of overall possible drops results in a bloated pool (made possibly worse when skipping because Bond items and extra XP potions get tossed in there).
I don't think they do. From what I read the first two pieces of gear in the stage list have a higher drop rate than the third gear listed.

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YotsuMaboroshi
02/08/21 12:58:55 PM
#119:


For Normal stages, the drop rates for the listed items are 36%/36%/24%. This usually means the first place something becomes available is one of the better places to farm it, as new items usually get listed in the first 2 slots. Edit: For Hard stages, all listed item drops have a drop rate of 72%. I'm not sure if the shard drop rate is the same or not though.

The extra bond and XP items you get from skip tickets have no impact on the drop rate, as those are the equivalent XP and bond you would get by running the stage normally.
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Eab1990
02/08/21 1:08:26 PM
#120:


200 rolls.

200 fucking rolls before she fucking showed up.



God, my wallet cant take much more of this.
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Stagmar
02/08/21 1:11:56 PM
#121:


YotsuMaboroshi posted...
For Normal stages, the drop rates for the listed items are 36%/36%/24%. This usually means the first place something becomes available is one of the better places to farm it, as new items usually get listed in the first 2 slots. Edit: For Hard stages, all listed item drops have a drop rate of 72%. I'm not sure if the shard drop rate is the same or not though.

The extra bond and XP items you get from skip tickets have no impact on the drop rate, as those are the equivalent XP and bond you would get by running the stage normally.
Not saying that formula is wrong, but I get other stuff (as in not the 3 listed) WAAAAY more than 4% of the time.

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LordFarquad1312
02/08/21 1:15:02 PM
#122:


Double drops in PriConne lol




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YotsuMaboroshi
02/08/21 1:22:45 PM
#123:


Stagmar posted...
Not saying that formula is wrong, but I get other stuff (as in not the 3 listed) WAAAAY more than 4% of the time.
AFAIK, the drop rates from the listed items are independent from the drop rates of non-listed items. You don't add them up like that.

This reddit post has more information, based off of client datamines: https://www.reddit.com/r/Priconne/comments/ki5kps/efficient_farming_principles_tools_datamined_drop/
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Calwings
02/08/21 1:31:36 PM
#124:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Double drops in PriConne lol

Sadly only for normal stages. Does anyone know if PriConne ever does double drops from the hard stages as a separate promotion?
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YotsuMaboroshi
02/08/21 1:35:14 PM
#125:


I think it's a possible event, based off of a Google search, but isn't part of the normal rotation.

Edit: A bit more information on drop rates from the JP server, it seems that it's specific enemies in the fight that drop the listed items, and you can't 'reroll' the fight to reset drops to game the system: https://www.reddit.com/r/Priconne/comments/81lj4f/psa_drops_seem_to_be_fixed_to_certain_enemies/

It's possible that things could be different on the global server, but I think that's probably unlikely, since I believe Cygames is still involved in the global release.
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YugiNoob
02/08/21 3:32:57 PM
#126:


Is there a math guy who can figure out the odds of me getting the 1 in 33, given that skip ticket rates are ~30-40%? Im really curious as to how bad my luck is :<

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Calwings
02/08/21 3:59:24 PM
#127:


YugiNoob posted...
Is there a math guy who can figure out the odds of me getting the 1 in 33, given that skip ticket rates are ~30-40%? Im really curious as to how bad my luck is :<

https://dskjal.com/statistics/chance-calculator.html

I plugged the numbers into the first calculator (33 for trials, 36% for probability based on the drop rate that someone mentioned above) and the chances of only getting exactly 1 drop in that many attempts is so low that the calculator can't even display it. I'm not sure how to calculate exactly how low the odds are, but at the very least we know that it's less than 0.01% (AKA 1 in 10,000) which is the lowest it can display without simply saying zero.
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YugiNoob
02/08/21 4:37:38 PM
#128:


Calwings posted...
https://dskjal.com/statistics/chance-calculator.html

I plugged the numbers into the first calculator (33 for trials, 36% for probability based on the drop rate that someone mentioned above) and the chances of only getting exactly 1 drop in that many attempts is so low that the calculator can't even display it. I'm not sure how to calculate exactly how low the odds are, but at the very least we know that it's less than 0.01% (AKA 1 in 10,000) which is the lowest it can display without simply saying zero.
>:(

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Leanaunfurled
02/08/21 6:15:16 PM
#129:


Aah, yay! Decided to do one little ten pull in Priconne. Got Nozomi!! <3 Love her so much.

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The Catgirl Fondler
02/08/21 10:27:35 PM
#130:


Did 7 ten pulls on the new PriConne banner cuz' beasty gal rate up and gots me some new characters.

Nozomi
Rin
Anna
Mitsuki
Mimi
Mifuyu
Shiori

No Makoto or Maho though, instead I got several dupes for other *3 I had (because of course it would do that to me).
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LordFarquad1312
02/08/21 10:38:04 PM
#131:


I did a yolo 10 pull and got a random Maho and 2 copies of Squirrel girl

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legendarylemur
02/08/21 10:44:46 PM
#132:


Did a yolo too and got Makoto. Managed to get her to rank 7 straight up, thanks to her stuff not coinciding with anybody I'm building. Though I dunno who I would replace, guess Akino might be benched for now

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YugiNoob
02/08/21 11:26:36 PM
#133:


Does anyone play Marvel Strike Force? I remember giving that game a try but dropping it because it took so long to get characters. But seeing as how they have my favorites like Carnage and Doomsy now...

And speaking of Doomsy, I'm a bit confused about one of his skills.

Clear all Deathproof from all Doombot allies + attack them for 5000% damage.

...Does this mean he attacks his own poor lil bots D:

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YugiNoob
02/09/21 12:37:49 AM
#134:


Wait a minute...Guardian Tales maintenance says there are 204 minutes left. Does that mean that I'm gonna miss my dailies D:

I tried to log in like 3 hours ago but it was still down :<

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legendarylemur
02/09/21 12:48:22 AM
#135:


YugiNoob posted...
Wait a minute...Guardian Tales maintenance says there are 204 minutes left. Does that mean that I'm gonna miss my dailies D:

I tried to log in like 3 hours ago but it was still down :<
You get a notice but you can still start the game, since about an hr ago, I got the same notice but went into the game to do some arena for the gems. It might actually be down now tho, not sure

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YugiNoob
02/09/21 2:52:30 AM
#136:


I couldn't start the game. Guess I'm missing dailies :<

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 2:55:07 AM
#137:


Once the maintenance starts you can't enter until it's done. I never did my 250 coffee daily :-x

Oh well.

Hope we get something good.

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YugiNoob
02/09/21 4:13:25 AM
#138:


We get shitz :<

However, I'm pleased to see that they buffed Plitvice's unique weapon a little bit. Also interesting to note is that they said that they added a trial co-op :3

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legendarylemur
02/09/21 5:32:28 AM
#139:


https://www.reddit.com/r/GuardianTales/comments/lfxdpj/leaked_future_knight_full_illustration/

No... NO.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh sorry I was having Kama-zone flashbacks

https://cafe.daum.net/GuardianTales/AgPr/21 KR Update for W11 and Future Knight

Her weapon is called Cosmic Destroyer lmao and her age is 30?! so the knight in the future... survived too? Looks like I was sorta on the money with the quote thing. She is technically not the Knight that we're playing. Either way, I only see a CV for a female voice so... I'm guessing she's a gacha character that's gender locked. Thank god

The weapon has 40 clip size O_o, presumably acts very similarly to Kama-zone's rifle Knight. Passive for Future Knight is 50% to do 50% more damage, and when it hits, decrease their Basic resistance by 20% for 3 seconds. Weapon passive is 30% to do a megaton energy explosion that does 50% more damage, on hit, increase weapon skill recharge speed by 30% for 2 seconds, 1 second cd, what on earth

I guess the last time we had a Rifle dps focused unit was Arabelle, not counting the 2* units

Wow they upped all the crit chance party buff by 6%. Lahn got some buff, I think upon weapon skill or passive (I dunno what that move is) activation, .2 second decrease for the weapon skill. Arabelle gets movement speed upon normal attack, it seems. Their weapons got some buff too, Lahn's weapon passive made more bursty with a slight higher cd per activation, Arabelle's get range buff and some damage buff to I think her passive. Vishuvac's wep also buffed, I think some thing that activates on hit activates from 30% to 40%.

Co-op, looks like you can either enter a room code between friends or do a quick play match making. There will also be damage/heal/etc charts amongst players and a highlighted MVP player.

Oh nice, looks like the collection requirements are now listed below the weapon stats

Lul in the comments:

"Male knight's been decanonized? Why'd they even make us choose the gender lol"
"Did she shoot and kill the male knight?"
"I guess if you attach the word Future to any champion, they suddenly become an S-tier unit"

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 11:05:16 AM
#140:


The new side story plot twist was kind of expected knowing how GT operates but it was still great.

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Calwings
02/09/21 1:49:39 PM
#141:


Welp, had a bit of bad luck myself today. There was a rate-up banner for best girl Colette in Tales Of Crestoria so I thought I'd try to max ascend her. I did 110 pulls (AKA all of my stones) and not only didn't get a Colette, but didn't get a single SSR at all. The odds of that happening are 0.35%, not as astronomically low as YugiNoob's drop luck in PriConne, but still pretty bad. Oh well, not a big deal. Considering I already have a really good squad in Crestoria, I'd much rather have bad luck in this game than in PriConne or ReLIVE.
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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 1:49:45 PM
#142:


I was reading the Korean GT patch notes. It sounds like Future Knight may potentially come from much further into the future than Chapter 10/11.

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legendarylemur
02/09/21 2:28:33 PM
#143:


Well she's 30, and the current Knight is 20, so she would be the right age for the future Heavenhold. Presumably, she disappeared for a better reason, and that future is sorta like an alternative future I guess. Though if you were a male Knight and the Knight in that timeline is a girl, dunno how everybody would confuse you for that person tho lol, I dunno. Guess we'll find out

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 2:54:04 PM
#144:


legendarylemur posted...
Well she's 30, and the current Knight is 20, so she would be the right age for the future Heavenhold. Presumably, she disappeared for a better reason, and that future is sorta like an alternative future I guess. Though if you were a male Knight and the Knight in that timeline is a girl, dunno how everybody would confuse you for that person tho lol, I dunno. Guess we'll find out

It sounds like Knight got potentially stuck in the future for 10 years before they figured out how to travel back in time.

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MedeaLysistrata
02/09/21 3:13:17 PM
#145:


Rino AoE PVP team is hilariously OP, I highly suggest her from the arena shop if you already have Monika... Which I still don't

Also I'm barely ready for clan battle. Still have to rank up two characters. Good luck with that everyone

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 3:36:36 PM
#146:


I just want to leave my phone open to the co-op lobby in Guardian Tales cause the music SLAPS HARD

(Low quality video. It sounds even better in game.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-h64Z_AXAs

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 5:04:28 PM
#147:


Guardian Tales co-op starts in one hour and goes on to the end of the night. Only randoms for now so good luck.

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 5:49:19 PM
#148:


I'm literally just gonna go sit in the lobby for the next 10 minutes and jam out

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legendarylemur
02/09/21 6:12:24 PM
#149:


Oh yeah I should try it out too. I guess I should use Eugene, but I dunno

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/21 6:15:49 PM
#150:


I also miscalculated when co-op starts because I did some hack math based off arena times and it's not for a little while longer but sitting in the lobby is still a great way to spend time cause that music is fucking great

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legendarylemur
02/09/21 6:26:06 PM
#151:


Yeah I'll never be able to remember what voodoo time zones each gacha game uses. Goddamn it, I swear every language with some calendar/time library has some method for normalizing to the phone's UTC. I've seen it b4 and most games I've played recently don't use them for some reason.

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